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Tire Chunker 04-22-2005 08:15 AM

Mc-59
 
Does any one run the McCoy MC-59 with the 12TR?

Is it to hot of a plug?

Marcos.J 04-22-2005 10:50 AM

Re: Mc-59
 

Originally posted by Tire Chunker
Does any one run the McCoy MC-59 with the 12TR?

Is it to hot of a plug?

if you do you have to add another washer for the glow plug since is a bit longer than the OS plug!

mc59 is a hot plug

the OS A3 ran great on my OS TR with 30% fuel

mrgsr 04-24-2005 06:18 AM

tr r spec hard to tune ?
 
hello

trying to get my r spec to have a good tune its hard for some reason....

i have the top end running awesome and the car temps are around the 110degrees celsius mark, however the problem im having seams to be in the low end..

i can start the car and warm it up on the bench then it normally stalls within about 10 seconds and i need to restart it thewn it runs sweet

one of the guys at the track said it seams to be loading up on fuel ??

can i get some help please ?
thanks

rcabj 04-24-2005 07:53 AM

hi..how about trying a new plug....enjoy

Darth Vader 04-25-2005 01:19 AM

Hi guys,

I don't really have a problem but a slight worry about my engine temps. I have an OS 12 TR(P)T 5port.

I run it as rich as possible, any richer and it dies the moment I throttle it. But the temp is still around ~135celcius.(taken at glow plug area) Ambient temp is around 33celcius. It runs fine and has decent power. I can lean it somemore coz I tried it before and there's still some power to be tapped.

But I'm worried about the engine temp. Anyone out there with this engine can give me some readings on their engine temp?

I'm also contemplating putting on a larger head. Any company out there makes a large head that fits the OS?

Cheers...

TRAJ 04-25-2005 01:25 AM

Try this http://www.rcaddict.com.au/product_i...roducts_id/126

My os engine did the same thing i eventually sold it

mrgsr 04-25-2005 03:40 AM

os engines love to run hot

try a hot plug like a p6

Darth Vader 04-25-2005 07:14 PM

Wouldn't a hot plug make it run hotter? Or is it the other way round?:confused:

I'm already using the No. 6 plug. Running 25% fuel with around 0.5mm clearance.

Comments?

mrgsr 04-25-2005 07:26 PM

from my experience hotter plugs allow you to run richer and cold plugs allow you to run leaner

mrgsr 04-30-2005 02:25 AM

oil percentage ?? type of oils ?
 
hello

i just wanted to know what percentage oils you guys are running in your tr (mine is a r spec tr) ??

i am currently using 15% nitro with 18% castor oil
i notice alot of brown carbon like build up inside my egine on top of the ppiston and out side the car

thanks
john

Marcos.J 04-30-2005 06:14 AM

Re: oil percentage ?? type of oils ?
 

Originally posted by mrgsr
hello

i just wanted to know what percentage oils you guys are running in your tr (mine is a r spec tr) ??

i am currently using 15% nitro with 18% castor oil
i notice alot of brown carbon like build up inside my egine on top of the ppiston and out side the car

thanks
john

what brand fuel?

mrgsr 04-30-2005 07:40 AM

its just a brand of fuel that the hobby stores in australia sell

no major brand like trinity or so

Darth Vader 05-02-2005 11:14 PM


Originally posted by mrgsr
its just a brand of fuel that the hobby stores in australia sell

no major brand like trinity or so

Make sure it's not air-plane fuel.

mrgsr 05-03-2005 06:12 AM

hey guys
i did some maths
and the fuel has 200mls to the litre of oil

in a litre that means it has 20% oil!! crap
im gonna make something useful from it and pour it over the weads in the driveway.

yodace 05-03-2005 06:37 PM

Are they still making the TR engine..?

gfd2726 05-07-2005 08:38 AM

factory setting
 
Hi guys,

Recently, I got a used O.S .12TR 5ports (blue head) engine. It didn't come with any instruction so can anyone pm me the factory setting of this engine? Thank you.

gordon

themoose 05-07-2005 08:55 AM


Originally posted by yodace
Are they still making the TR engine..?
I know it's been discontinued at Tower & they are a major OS distributer

Tire Chunker 05-07-2005 08:20 PM

OS has them on hteir website

rcabj 05-09-2005 02:19 AM

Re: factory setting
 

Originally posted by gfd2726
Hi guys,

Recently, I got a used O.S .12TR 5ports (blue head) engine. It didn't come with any instruction so can anyone pm me the factory setting of this engine? Thank you.

gordon

my base setting for it is....

-hsn...1 1/2 turn open from close
lsn- 1 1/2 - 2 turn close from flush.

and mid needle setting - 1 turn from flush...:) hope thats help..:D

gfd2726 05-09-2005 09:45 AM

Thank you guys! :)

mrgsr 05-15-2005 05:06 AM

os tr r spec fuel efficiency!
 
hey guys

just wanted to comment on the os tr r specs fuel efficiency

i cant believe after running a 5 min heat that i still have half a tank of fuel in my car

the engine still comes back pretty cool at about 80degrees celsius thats truly amazing. my mates collari 12 is lucky to finish the 5 min heat with a drop of fuel left.

However i did notice some fuel/dirt stuck under the low end needle so ive taken apart the carb and sealed it up with carb sealant to try stop that leak.

BigDogRacing 05-15-2005 06:02 AM


Originally posted by Tire Chunker
OS has them on hteir website
Hehehe- I like your username!!

Darth Vader 05-16-2005 11:58 PM

Bearing freeplay
 
I have a question on the front bearing.
The one on my engine has about 0.5mm of axial freeplay on it. I noticed it when I stripped the engine to clean it. Only done 1 gallon through it. Now I'm a bit puzzled. Why does the bearing get damaged so quickly. As far as I know, there should be negligible axial load on the bearings.

Is it still ok to run the engine with that freeplay? Or will it tear up the con rod and crankshaft?

Any advice is much appreciated.

Cheers...

rcabj 05-17-2005 02:35 AM

Re: Bearing freeplay
 

Originally posted by Darth Vader
I have a question on the front bearing.
The one on my engine has about 0.5mm of axial freeplay on it. I noticed it when I stripped the engine to clean it. Only done 1 gallon through it. Now I'm a bit puzzled. Why does the bearing get damaged so quickly. As far as I know, there should be negligible axial load on the bearings.

Is it still ok to run the engine with that freeplay? Or will it tear up the con rod and crankshaft?

Any advice is much appreciated.

Cheers...

i myself just gone through almost a gallon..and already the conrod need to be replace.....as for the bearing i don't see anything...

but if u have doubts u better change the bearing... ;)

Darth Vader 05-18-2005 02:22 AM

Re: Re: Bearing freeplay
 

Originally posted by rcabj
i myself just gone through almost a gallon..and already the conrod need to be replace.....as for the bearing i don't see anything...

but if u have doubts u better change the bearing... ;)

Con rod koyak after 1 gallon???
How come...?

I think changing conrod is easier than changing bearing. It's a pain to remove and fit. Have to figue out how to heat up the crank case without damaging the other inner bearing...:rolleyes:

rcabj 05-18-2005 08:31 PM

Re: Re: Re: Bearing freeplay
 

Originally posted by Darth Vader
Con rod koyak after 1 gallon???
How come...?

I think changing conrod is easier than changing bearing. It's a pain to remove and fit. Have to figue out how to heat up the crank case without damaging the other inner bearing...:rolleyes:

:nod: yeaah...koyak at usual place...a lot of free play its either the conrod bushing or the cranksahft pin :cry: :cry:

...do not use heat to take the inner bearing out...my fren did it and now the bearing also 'koyak'....there is a 'bearing puller' for the job...
---u can use the heat method for taking out bearing if u r sure it is damage..if not stay away from that.

BigDogRacing 05-18-2005 08:50 PM

Re: Re: Bearing freeplay
 

Originally posted by rcabj
i myself just gone through almost a gallon..and already the conrod need to be replace.....as for the bearing i don't see anything...

but if u have doubts u better change the bearing... ;)

detonation is what kills the conrod. If the compressed mixture fires too early then the explosion creates the downforce before the piston reaches TDC thus pushing down on the piston and rod while inertia keeps the piston coming up the bore.

wyl03 05-18-2005 11:15 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Bearing freeplay
 

Originally posted by rcabj

...do not use heat to take the inner bearing out...my fren did it and now the bearing also 'koyak'....there is a 'bearing puller' for the job...
---u can use the heat method for taking out bearing if u r sure it is damage..if not stay away from that.

bro .. the best combination is to use BOTH heat + bearing puller.

bearing puller will still introduce stress onto the bearing inner race. but there is less stress required when the crankcase is heated up.

at the end of the day ... i think u shouldn't remove the inner bearing under ANY circumstances unless to replace it. that's what i do anyway :lol:

rcabj 05-19-2005 01:26 AM

Re: Re: Re: conrod
 

Originally posted by BigDogRacing
detonation is what kills the conrod. If the compressed mixture fires too early then the explosion creates the downforce before the piston reaches TDC thus pushing down on the piston and rod while inertia keeps the piston coming up the bore.
so...is there any ways/tips to prevent/control this kind of "detonation" from happening.... :rolleyes: :D

wyl03 05-19-2005 02:04 AM

shims

RayJ 05-19-2005 02:44 AM

Detonation
 
There are several factors that can contribute to detonation.
Head clearance. percentage nitro used, plug, ambient temperature and altitude.

On cool days 50 to 75F almost all engines will perform and put out lots of HP. On those kind of days detonation with stock shimming and 30% nitro usually is not an issue.

On hot days (track temps at 100F or more) detonation may become more of a problem. Head shims will usually fix the problem, but many guys will also drop nitro content to 25% and even 20% and this will also alleviate detonation. If you run lower nitro you will need to lean out the motor more and retune at the track.

Changing to a colder plug will also help with detonation as well.

mrgsr 05-24-2005 12:10 AM

tr r spec fuel economoy
 
hey guys

just wante dto ask if anyone here has the os tr r spec?
my fuel economy is awesome, i mean i can run a 5 min heat and still have just over half a tank left, the engine is still running quite rich with heaps of smoke out the exhaust.

seeing that i have so much fuel to play with, do you think it would be a good idea to bore out the crank shaft for more power ??

thanks
John

yodace 05-28-2005 10:12 PM

Were can I find a company still selling the O.S TR engine for offroad (AD2)?

rcabj 06-02-2005 10:01 PM

os-tr busted...
 
hi....need some advice... after 2-3 litres my tr start havin problem....so i found out the internal bearing already busted....now waiting for a new one...at the same time i check freeplay between the conrod & c/shaft pin...and there is a bit...anyway to be safe i got myself a new c/rod...after puttiing it on the c/shaft the freeplay feels the same like the old c/rod....is the freeplay normal or the c/shaft pin also need replacement..??? just to be sure..thanks...just for info the piston sleeve/compression is still strong...

BundyMan 06-02-2005 10:07 PM

If you have installed a new conrod and there is still "excessive" free play, then chances are the crank pin is worn as well. :nod:

rcabj 06-03-2005 12:28 AM


Originally Posted by BundyMan
If you have installed a new conrod and there is still "excessive" free play, then chances are the crank pin is worn as well. :nod:

thanks mr. bundy....anyway do u or anyone here know the c/shaft pin diameter measurement...just to be 2x sure...thanks.... :blush:

Seisick 06-04-2005 01:55 PM

guys, is there a rear bearing remover tool? I need to remove the rear bearing from my mt12. as for the tr, just got the turbo inner head, and optional hyper head, has the same performance as the r spec or the 5 ports turbo.
but my brand new tz 3 port will arrive tomorrow finally, the piston and sleeve for the tz cost 40 and the conrod 20. its a bargain considering that the rear bearing for the tr at tower costs 60!

nsxshogun 06-04-2005 04:58 PM

HMMMM
 
Well got my tr p T back running. BUTTT I can't go past 75percent throttle. Itll just shut off after about 3/4 throttle. I can't for the life of me figure out whats worng. It is running rich on the top end because alot of fuel is coming out of the pipe. The bottom end seems Ok. I think its either a air leak or somethings up with the 3rd needle.

rcabj 06-05-2005 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by Seisick
guys, is there a rear bearing remover tool? I need to remove the rear bearing from my mt12. as for the tr, just got the turbo inner head, and optional hyper head, has the same performance as the r spec or the 5 ports turbo.
but my brand new tz 3 port will arrive tomorrow finally, the piston and sleeve for the tz cost 40 and the conrod 20. its a bargain considering that the rear bearing for the tr at tower costs 60!

if u mean the inner bearing, yes there is...i have been goin to my fren's if i need to remove those bearing...but i didn't notice the brand or manufacturer...sorry.. :)

rcabj 06-05-2005 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by nsxshogun
Well got my tr p T back running. BUTTT I can't go past 75percent throttle. Itll just shut off after about 3/4 throttle. I can't for the life of me figure out whats worng. It is running rich on the top end because alot of fuel is coming out of the pipe. The bottom end seems Ok. I think its either a air leak or somethings up with the 3rd needle.

jjust make sure your conrod and rear bearing r ok...anything else won't be much of a problem...good luck... :nod:


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