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Old 06-09-2007, 01:04 AM   #16
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many of the top tier manufacturers will NOT post bs numbers (ie hp and torque) because they know that its not true and are nowhere near realistic.
Oh I'm sorry, I suppose the specs posted on Novarossi website are just a figure of my imagination:

Motori / Engine R PLUS 12-3
Cilindrata / Displacement 2,09cc
Potenza massima / Max. power 1,60 hp R.P.M (Max. power) 41.400 rpm
Regime di utlilizzo / Practical range 6.000 ~ 42.200 rpm
Alesaggio x corsa / Bore x stroke 13,70mm x 14.25mm
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Codice / Code 08677
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Rear Ball Bearing Tipo di sfere / Balls type Acciaio / Steel
Codice / Code 16606
Tipo d'avviamento / Starting ________________
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Crankshaft Tipo / Type 11,5mm - SG
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Old 06-09-2007, 02:40 AM   #17
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one thing i dont like about these forums, is that its very hard to get an honest objective opinion. a lot of sponsored people here, and even some salesman.

that said i dont own a tg. i did own a cv-r though. if thats any indication then the tg should be very reliable and easy to tune(I think this is what OS is most known for), but not the fastest around, probably more on the slow side. it should be a great motor for a beginner, if you are a beginner?
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Old 06-09-2007, 05:35 AM   #18
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had it did not like it.
thats all im gona say coz ill get in trouble
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:03 AM   #19
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Oh I'm sorry, I suppose the specs posted on Novarossi website are just a figure of my imagination:

Motori / Engine R PLUS 12-3
Cilindrata / Displacement 2,09cc
Potenza massima / Max. power 1,60 hp R.P.M (Max. power) 41.400 rpm
Regime di utlilizzo / Practical range 6.000 ~ 42.200 rpm
Alesaggio x corsa / Bore x stroke 13,70mm x 14.25mm
Accoppiamento
Sleeve N. Travasi / N. Transfer ports 3
Codice / Code 08677
Cuscinetto Poster.
Rear Ball Bearing Tipo di sfere / Balls type Acciaio / Steel
Codice / Code 16606
Tipo d'avviamento / Starting ________________
Albero
Crankshaft Tipo / Type 11,5mm - SG

Wow, you can go to a website and grab what they say for horsepower...

As per RB Products:

We have many request of how much RPM or HP our engines make and all we can tell you is that since there is no industrial device for measuring these engines we have decided not to publish these figures since we think that most of the figures published are not always very realistic, so we prefer not to just put on paper some HP or RPM.

Even RB thinks that the numbers that Nova posts are BS.

Ever notice how most foreign countries use the metric system? They dont even USE HORSEPOWER to measure with, they use KILOWATTS. They post HORSEPOWER because they know that there are ignorant americans that will buy it because it says so on the box... so it MUST be true!
But if you buy engines just because of what the label says, then good for you. Traxxas has some products for you that'll get your vehicles up to 70+!

Now I'm going to say it again... if there are people buying this OS engine just because of what it says for performance on the box, there are going to be a LOT of disappointed people out there. I've tried out a .12 TG, its slow, I'll keep what I run instead.
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So if they post on the box in kilowatts it will be accurate???




psssst, 1hp = .746 kilowatts
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had it did not like it.
thats all im gona say coz ill get in trouble
can you say why you didn't like it?
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If the dynoruns are made with the same dyno then the results are ACCURATE.
For example: all dynos run on the X-dyno will be comparable to each other.
Now if a specific factory has it's own standards for measuring the power of their engines then it should be OK for engines that they test and produce.
Although this is not always the case.
"Kemorc"-Novarossi made the P5X to replace the P5 and it had way less power than the older version(P5) when dynoed on X-dyno. Even though they said in their website that it was around the same.
As for the quality of the engines...did you come up with the 3 top quality engines or you saw it in another forum
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Wow, a lot of vicous feelings coming out in here, kinda feels like a little group that meets Tuesday nights at the cafeteria.

Anyway... I have a TG. I love it! But I don't race on-road, I race gas truck. With that being said I previously ran a TR which was a great motor. Great powerband, very predictable, and can hang with the best of them. However, the TG does not have nearly the power that the TR had, as it was not designed to. It was designed for smooth power delivery, and fuel economy. I have no trouble making 10 minute pit stops in offroad with the TG. The TR on the other hand would run dry at 9 minutes. I would reccommend the TG to anyone racing 1/10 offroad. However, for any competent driver, the TG would be a lackluster choice for onroad. You WILL get eaten alive out of every corner and can't turn big enough gears to keep up on the straights. So please, don't bash O.S. for putting out a motor that is smoother and more efficient the the CVR.
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