I am not sure what engine to buy for my 8ight, I bash mostly but might start to race in the future. I was thinking about a Clocked Novarossi .21 5-port (P5XLT), Clocked Argus .21 (A52), Clocked JL .21 Pro, JPX .21 Plus, or a Novarossi .28 7-port Turbo. If there are better ones give me suggestions my limit on the engine is about $325. I would love to hit 60 if possible. I am going to get a Robinson Racing spur and clutch bell not sure what ratio, and a good clutch not sure about clutch yet. Any recommendations for anything are highly appreciated. I was looking at http://clockworkracingengines.com/ca...modded-engines for the engine.

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Scratch the Novarossi .28 7-port Turbo and the Clocked Argus .21 (A52) off of your list. A .28 is waaaay to much for a buggy and I know two argus sponsored guys that just jumped ship because the motors don't last.

Personally I really like my JL .21 Pro but you need the Hong Nor 2047 Pipe to go with it for it to really scream.

You could also get a Clocked Werks B6/2058 and probably still be near your budget.

I forgot the Clocked Werks B5 or B6.

If you are thinking about Werks go B6 over B5. The B6 is much better suited to buggy...

How is there too much power? Just wondering what happens.

FUSION X7 makes BIGGGGG power in buggy or truggy for that matter , the bonito also makes HUGE power , both badass 7 ports

Too much power generally leads to breaking the tires loose as soon as you get on the gas... The car is a missile on the straights but loops out in the turns. If you have REALLY good throttle control (novice guys need not apply) then you can drive just about anything well. What you want instead is a motor that is very smooth. It will make a buggy much easier to drive.

Honestly the Clocked B6 or B6 Pro are both your best options they are super smooth but still have more power than you will ever need but you will need to get a Werks 2057 or 2058 pipe for them to perform well...

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I had a B6 in my last losi buggy and it was almost too much power. I believe it would have pushed my truggy around rather well. The B5 I had was crazy strong in my truggy.

I vote for the B6 with a 6.5mm restrictor.

Okay, what do you think about gear ratio and clutch brand? I'll get the Werks with one of the pipes you recommended or the JL .21 with the pipe you recommended.

Its a pretty good idea to get a variety of different sized clutch bells. I cant remember specifically if the what the Losi uses stock but it wouldnt be a bad idea to get an extra +1 an -1 bell to fit different tracks. Some tracks will be smaller and benefit from going down a tooth whereas some other tracks will be higher speed and going up a tooth will be beneficial. Imo Losi Clutch Bells are just fine.

As far as clutch brand I personally am a fan of Acendancy or Werks. They last a good while and are easy to work on.

Dont forget that the heart of your clutch is your clutch bearings... Get TKO clutch bearings and they will never do you wrong... Losi clutch bearings lasted me on average .25-.5 gallons a set and the fastest I ever wore out TKO's was 2.5 gallons and my best set lasted over four gallons! (losi uses different sized bearings front/rear so you will need to get front and rear clutch bearings from TKO because they aren't sold as a set)

Front
Rear

JL - Hong Nor 2047 Pipe
B6 - Werks 2058 Pipe

Okay sounds good so far, thanks!

The Argus thread is full of guys raving about how long their engines have been lasting with no problems. Your two friends are exceptions to the rule, rather than proof of it afaic(no offense, incidentally..) You can read, btw, such comments about EVERY engine brand out there, including Novarossi and OS. There are tons of factors with engines. Give an Argus to somebody with a clue, and a high-end Nova or OS to somebody without one, and the Argus will do fine. And vice-versa.

I have a stock Argus A52 with 0801 pipe, and it makes great power and is very easy to tune. Was also very well-priced.

If I were in the States and looking to get a buggy engine, I'd get a stock Werks B5(I like grunty power, so I'd take the B5 over B6..., plus it's 30 bucks cheaper.. Though it depends what kind of track you're talking about too.. Maybe a B6 for big tracks with long straights..) with 2058 pipe. The pipe is expensive, but one of the things I like that I hear about Werks is that break-in is easier and shorter than with some of the high-pinch Taiwanese or Italian engines. Still, with a discount code you can get the B5 with pipe and a plug or two for under your budget. If you want to race, you're going to need more money for spare parts, and especially tires..

Another engine that's starting to get a lot of attention(at least mine ha ha..) is the RB Fire 11, if you can still find one for a good price...

Not saying they are bad engines, just stating what I have seen first-hand. I'm not here to bash any particular brand just trying to share my experience.

the best racing engine is not going to be the best bashing engine.... On the track you need something that is smooth and manageable...For bashing the more power you have, the more fun you have.......

Modified P5XLT...very powerful, well rounded easy to tune engine that will be powerful enough to bash and manageable enough to race

Modified RB Fire 11...Nasty fast on the 2058 pipe, manageable on the 2097 pipe

both these engines are rock solid reliable, easy to tune and very stable....