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twitch_1 02-21-2012 04:06 AM

How can you tell if you have a gen 1 or a gen 2?????

Eivind E 02-21-2012 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by Khanuen (Post 10359189)
The Gen 2 carb isn't a work of art either. Rc willpower on ebay auctions O.S.xzb carbs and they consistently go for about $25. Thats probably cheaper than replacing the o-rings and you have a much smoother carb. Hobby pro sells the new case. I think the problem with the gen 1 case was the loose bearings but not all of them had the problem. Check and see if you've got a bad one.

Edit. Hobby pro also has the o-rings and for only $7.99. Case w/o bearings is $62.39 and with bearings is $89.99

That would be the website VP Pro?
I tried to register there but there was no option to select for Spain, they only seem to ship to US/CAN/MEX.

Bit of a shame really, so I dunno what to do now.

Khanuen 02-21-2012 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by Eivind E (Post 10359707)
That would be the website VP Pro?
I tried to register there but there was no option to select for Spain, they only seem to ship to US/CAN/MEX.

Bit of a shame really, so I dunno what to do now.

Yeh the vp pro website. I did notice on their website that they don't seem to offer international postage but they do sell some stuff on ebay. You could try and contact them and see if they will help you out. You might also be able to get your hands on some o.s. 21j carb o-rings in spain. I think the seller rchobbies4life sells part JX05012. They are the o-rings for the mugen ninja jx21b01a(which had an o.s. carb) and should fit but not sure. They are about $5. Also the seller on ebay mikenixsos has the o-rings for the arrow for $10 but doesn't say if they are gen1 or gen2.

Did you see if your bearings are loose?

twitch_1 02-22-2012 04:01 AM

Ok my LHS has 2 of these motors in stock and looking at grabbing one how can i tell if it's a gen2 not gen1?????

rageworks 02-22-2012 05:02 AM

Here is one way to tell if it's a gen2 engine.


Originally Posted by VPProUSA (Post 9973365)
The new case says "Arrow Power" around the front crank bearing.


rageworks 02-22-2012 05:04 AM

Here is a pic.


Originally Posted by VPProUSA (Post 9973360)
Cyber Week Special

Arrow-Racing GTR-21 Ver II
$199.99, Save $35

http://www.vp-pro-usa.com/components...product/V2.jpg


Eivind E 02-22-2012 10:29 AM

Guys, it turns out that even though the auction showed a picture of the Gen 1 engine, the package I received did in fact contain a Gen 2 engine.
I'm thinking this seller should update his pictures, so that people are not avoiding his auctions for this reason! :D

So from dispair I have instead moved on to joy, just goes to show you should never assume the worst :D lol!!!!

twitch_1 02-22-2012 11:12 PM

Thanks guys for that can't wait to start running this motor going to be fun

pcage 02-23-2012 01:29 AM


Can i use the os xzb con rod
In the arrow gtr?
If it fit, wonder why this guy wants to put a xzb rod inside a Arrow. It should be the other way. Arrow rod is way cheaper than a OS. Looks it's a + for OS owners.

Rsickles 02-23-2012 01:46 AM


Originally Posted by pcage (Post 10369844)
If it fit, wonder why this guy wants to put a xzb rod inside a Arrow. It should be the other way. Arrow rod is way cheaper than a OS. Looks it's a + for OS owners.

The XZ rod is significantly lighter.

Dklst 02-23-2012 02:50 AM

I just put a P/S/R in a ninja i had laying around. So far after break in I'm really impressed. Holds a great idle, LOADS of bottom end and still screams top end with temps staying in the 195 to 215 range w/OS 2060. IMO the VZB has little more top end and little less bottom end(very little though and temps are still running low so it could be leaned some more for top end but it definitely has more bottom punch and I'm running steel flywheel). Bottom end feels so strong on this motor I may try it in my truggy.:D

pcage 02-23-2012 03:25 AM


The XZ rod is significantly lighter
I didn't pay much attention to its weight. But $19.00 vs $46.00, I go for Arrow. Way cheaper.

R/C Lidz 02-23-2012 03:37 AM

the Arrow rods aren't built to the same tolerances either. I was changing out the rod in my VZB limited edition last weekend and the OS rod that is worn was a better fit than the brand new Arrow rod.

stallen50 02-23-2012 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by R/C Lidz (Post 10369999)
the Arrow rods aren't built to the same tolerances either. I was changing out the rod in my VZB limited edition last weekend and the OS rod that is worn was a better fit than the brand new Arrow rod.

was the crank wore. because i couldnt tell a difference when i compared mic'd it

pcage 02-23-2012 04:26 PM

I don't for sure. But my friend did get a psr replacement to fit his OS and find nothing wrong.


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