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lilchill 05-31-2014 04:25 PM

Factory needle settings for A52
 
Does anyone know the factory settings for the A52?

imrob 05-31-2014 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by lilchill (Post 13302798)
Does anyone know the factory settings for the A52?

I have some setting around page 95 to what ever were at now for the. 23. I would have to think they should be close. I also have a race tune setting some Were back a couple of pages. Also MitchelG is very close to my setting to do if you ser his it should give you a good ball park also.

lilchill 05-31-2014 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by imrob (Post 13302839)
I have some setting around page 95 to what ever were at now for the. 23. I would have to think they should be close. I also have a race tune setting some Were back a couple of pages. Also MitchelG is very close to my setting to do if you ser his it should give you a good ball park also.

Ok thanks

imrob 05-31-2014 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by lilchill (Post 13302848)
Ok thanks

I used cal for mine. If you need turns out look for MitchelG unless you find my pitchure. That show how to use the cal for needle settings.it on this thread also. I forgot to mention that earlier today. Just look back some pages but I dont think it before 95 so if you go back after 95 your to far .

nitroexpress 05-31-2014 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by lilchill (Post 13302798)
Does anyone know the factory settings for the A52?

Probably the same as the A5. Check post #1408

imrob 05-31-2014 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by nitroexpress (Post 13303170)
Probably the same as the A5. Check post #1408

The high is the same but I dont think the low is. Im not to sure lsn cause I dont count turn and my low seem to be in more than half way still. Why is it that you are looking for factory needle setting lilchill. Is it a tune problem something like it dont drop to an idle deal. Or is it you just want to know them. Then I would have to say factory sett I ng best would be from rex. If he would not mind. Some where I have a safe setting That posted. That is what I will fall back to if my tune get out of wack. It on the richer side with a fat idle gap. But it is still closer to a tune then the factory big gap that came with mine. All my gear is packed up for a point series race so I can not get at it. But if you need some pictures or anything just ask. I will take some when I can and post them here.

Herrsavage 05-31-2014 10:57 PM

"Factory settings" are balloney.. Start from flush and tune from there...

mr240 05-31-2014 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by Herrsavage (Post 13303397)
"Factory settings" are balloney.. Start from flush and tune from there...

Not all carbs start from flush. So starting from factory settings is a good idea IMO.

Hoese37 05-31-2014 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by mr240 (Post 13303422)
Not all carbs start from flush. So starting from factory settings is a good idea IMO.

+1. Very few engines are set this way anymore.

lilchill 06-01-2014 03:30 AM


Originally Posted by imrob (Post 13303236)
The high is the same but I dont think the low is. Im not to sure lsn cause I dont count turn and my low seem to be in more than half way still. Why is it that you are looking for factory needle setting lilchill. Is it a tune problem something like it dont drop to an idle deal. Or is it you just want to know them. Then I would have to say factory sett I ng best would be from rex. If he would not mind. Some where I have a safe setting That posted. That is what I will fall back to if my tune get out of wack. It on the richer side with a fat idle gap. But it is still closer to a tune then the factory big gap that came with mine. All my gear is packed up for a point series race so I can not get at it. But if you need some pictures or anything just ask. I will take some when I can and post them here.

Imrob just wanted to know, I was able to get to a track a few weeks ago a day didnt touch my needles as I had enough power all over checked my temps and was @*227, I know way rich, outside temps were around *63-*68f. I knew I could lean on it way more but just left it alone. Even that rich I had enough power for the track I was on. Then last week went bashing and the outside temps was *80f+ and very humid, and messed with the needles and once again was running good. This motors been great I haven't had any issues at all actually. My idle does seem to 2 stage when bashing but its a pull in and high idle for a 2 sec. kind of thing. At the track it was let off the gas and it fell into a flat idle almost immediately. Long story short when I first did break in my excitement of a new motor made me totally forget to write down where my needles where from the factory, which brought me to this question as I was going to just give the motor a once over soon. I'll contact Rex and see what he says.

Thanks

imrob 06-01-2014 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by lilchill (Post 13303602)
Imrob just wanted to know, I was able to get to a track a few weeks ago a day didnt touch my needles as I had enough power all over checked my temps and was @*227, I know way rich, outside temps were around *63-*68f. I knew I could lean on it way more but just left it alone. Even that rich I had enough power for the track I was on. Then last week went bashing and the outside temps was *80f+ and very humid, and messed with the needles and once again was running good. This motors been great I haven't had any issues at all actually. My idle does seem to 2 stage when bashing but its a pull in and high idle for a 2 sec. kind of thing. At the track it was let off the gas and it fell into a flat idle almost immediately. Long story short when I first did break in my excitement of a new motor made me totally forget to write down where my needles where from the factory, which brought me to this question as I was going to just give the motor a once over soon. I'll contact Rex and see what he says.

Thanks

Will if it running good there i would just say write down those number and and add a turn richer there. use that for a fall back number that is how i do it cause factory always way to rich. i mean my .23 came with like a 2mm idle gap.

on another note i was turning some heads today i found a great tire for are track today in practice. i mean i was on rail and my .23 was screaming i was glued to the track until i hit the jumps. I wish i would have got some video of that. we did not get to run truggy today cause we got rained out fast. at least i got to run one race in ebuggy that i did video but im not good in e buggy thinking i dont like it. i want go back to nitro buggy. so i guess im gonna grab an r8 soon with a fuel mod.

Herrsavage 06-01-2014 10:01 PM

There are way too many variables in nitro to rely on any specific needle settings IMO. Different fuels, different pipes, different plugs, different elevations, different climates, etc etc.. About flush is about right as a starting point on most engines afaic.. There's no way I can ask some guy on the internet what his needle settings are and get a good tune on my engine on that basis. I have to go run it and see for myself.. It's a waste of time worrying about numbers of turns out etc.. IMO. What matters is that it runs well - whatever the number of turns..

imrob 06-02-2014 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Herrsavage (Post 13305502)
There are way too many variables in nitro to rely on any specific needle settings IMO. Different fuels, different pipes, different plugs, different elevations, different climates, etc etc.. About flush is about right as a starting point on most engines afaic.. There's no way I can ask some guy on the internet what his needle settings are and get a good tune on my engine on that basis. I have to go run it and see for myself.. It's a waste of time worrying about numbers of turns out etc.. IMO. What matters is that it runs well - whatever the number of turns..

Will after looking at my .23 they are not flush at all the hsp is close to it. The lsn is in big time so to start flush on this guy would be a no no that would be to lean on both the hsn and lsn. Im just saying is all start on the rich side not the lean side. Not arguing with you at all. I have another guy I talked the next state up from and he is just about where im at with my setting. So that is why I say here my setting take them and richen them up a turn or two. Then dial it in. I feel that is a pretty safe way to go.

On another note I figured out how to get my video to work.i had the go pro on pro tune I guess that not a good thing. So next race day I hope to get a video of this .23 going and posted. Still have not figured out how to export any thing so these will be on a 720 p and low resolution. The other day I used the setting for a small video on these setting. the kid was driving for 8 minutes and it went right on to face book.not the best video but it worked. I also think I should turn of the wide thing to not sure.

lilchill 06-02-2014 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by*Herrsavage*

There are way too many variables in nitro to rely on any specific needle settings IMO. Different fuels, different pipes, different plugs, different elevations, different climates, etc etc.. About flush is about right as a starting point on most engines afaic.. There's no way I can ask some guy on the internet what his needle settings are and get a good tune on my engine on that basis. I have to go run it and see for myself.. It's a waste of time worrying about numbers of turns out etc.. IMO. What matters is that it runs well - whatever the number of turns..

I hear you but I wasnt asking for someone to "tune my engine over the internet" per say, just was looking for what the factory settings were just for my own knowledge or if I got out of wack I would be able to go there turn my needles back in some and be right back in on the rich side to continue to get to a good tune for any where I might be without going through a bunch of headaches. There are a couple of people who stay in a round about general area and there settings are somewhat close but I leave far away and my settings are somewhat far from there's. As far as tuning goes my engine has not giving me any problems at all.

Imrob glad to hear you got your camera situation figured out. I got a chance to go to a track in Virginia about 2 hrs from me for some practice runs and this .23 did not disappoint me 1 bit. Now my truck is another story lets just say the engine is way more reliable and durable for that matter then the truck it was pulling all around the track like a rag doll while running really rich, temps didn't even get above *227 all day but it was strong so I left it as is because I didnt think the truck or me would be able to handle more than what it was already giving. I got some video but be warned the driving wasnt pretty:ha: you'll understand what I mean at the end.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EVvMU5kX-gQ

imrob 06-02-2014 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by lilchill (Post 13307456)
Originally Posted by*Herrsavage*

There are way too many variables in nitro to rely on any specific needle settings IMO. Different fuels, different pipes, different plugs, different elevations, different climates, etc etc.. About flush is about right as a starting point on most engines afaic.. There's no way I can ask some guy on the internet what his needle settings are and get a good tune on my engine on that basis. I have to go run it and see for myself.. It's a waste of time worrying about numbers of turns out etc.. IMO. What matters is that it runs well - whatever the number of turns..

I hear you but I wasnt asking for someone to "tune my engine over the internet" per say, just was looking for what the factory settings were just for my own knowledge or if I got out of wack I would be able to go there turn my needles back in some and be right back in on the rich side to continue to get to a good tune for any where I might be without going through a bunch of headaches. There are a couple of people who stay in a round about general area and there settings are somewhat close but I leave far away and my settings are somewhat far from there's. As far as tuning goes my engine has not giving me any problems at all.

Imrob glad to hear you got your camera situation figured out. I got a chance to go to a track in Virginia about 2 hrs from me for some practice runs and this .23 did not disappoint me 1 bit. Now my truck is another story lets just say the engine is way more reliable and durable for that matter then the truck it was pulling all around the track like a rag doll while running really rich, temps didn't even get above *227 all day but it was strong so I left it as is because I didnt think the truck or me would be able to handle more than what it was already giving. I got some video but be warned the driving wasnt pretty:ha: you'll understand what I mean at the end.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EVvMU5kX-gQ

i don't think the engine is too much for you to handle. If i remember correctly you don't get to a track much. If you can learn some finger control this will help you with that really quick. you will learn to roll not pull. From your video it seem like you car is stiff as board and has a lot of nose down attitude on the jumps. i would try to run a softer setup in the rear it might help. If that make it better good if not you might be too soft. or to much pack don't know to hard to tell with my pc buffer like ever 3 seconds. got a new one in the works soon or at least im trying to convince the other half for one lol. I think if you got a good setup for that track and an off power setup you might be good. it seem like a very tight track. i would also go with a soft clutch setup which i think you said you had before. i am not trying to be mean just helpful. sometime i run into troubles myself. i have a buggy im trying to figure out now and that video not all that great neither as for how it ran it looks like it was running it was rich. still see a big cloud of smoke. I cant hear the engine in the video i would have to crank my pc to up to about 98db. so i cant say nothing there. I would just say hang and be gentle you will get it. i was real bad when i was learning too. I think i do have a video of some older driving some where and trust it not pretty lol. I will post one soon which reminds me i got to go fix my youtube.


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