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Trevor Williams 12-28-2009 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by r1harper (Post 6773080)
in my opinion...an FMS will out perform a RB C6

+1

the 21-7's are beast's!!

houston 12-28-2009 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by r1harper (Post 6773080)
in my opinion...an FMS will out perform a RB C6

You got a pm wesley .

r1harper 12-28-2009 02:50 PM

i sent one back..

houston 12-30-2009 11:28 AM

novarossi rocks!!!!:D

Zuma 12-30-2009 11:41 AM

Today i've ordered my new engine, the FMS :D Hopefully its gonna be a good engine for my driving style.
Now for the clutch, what would you guys suggest? Is the stock losi clutch a good choice or I should put something different?

r1harper 01-03-2010 08:07 AM

raced the P5 last night..and man have i forgotten how good this engine is...not as smooth as the plus 4, and i dont think it is quite as fast...but it is a good engine for sure. will have the plus 4 in storage for a bit LOL.

houston 01-03-2010 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by r1harper (Post 6799135)
raced the P5 last night..and man have i forgotten how good this engine is...not as smooth as the plus 4, and i dont think it is quite as fast...but it is a good engine for sure. will have the plus 4 in storage for a bit LOL.

Put a plus4 C crank in it !!

You won't say its not as fast then !! :-)

r1harper 01-03-2010 09:14 AM

will it drop right in ...what could i expect....i might just do it for sure. that and a ceramic rear bearing..would it be a sleeper

topcat-lll 01-03-2010 01:30 PM

Mark & Monty
On the toro nero thread you guys where talking about venturies. (restrictors)
I always ran the stock restrictor, because I thought the engine companies put
in the best overall restrictor for that particular engine, but that may not be in
all cases. My FMS seemed to have a rich stumble and miss in the mid to upper
rpm range that I could not tune out with the HSN when using the 9853/41021
w/OD#97t and 25% nitro. I love the 9853's low-end punch. I'm thinking maybe
I should try the 7.5mm or 8mm venturi to get more oxygen in the mix? The
stock is a 6.5mm. Now I'm runnig a 9901 which runs great, but I miss the
9853's punch.

houston 01-03-2010 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by r1harper (Post 6799397)
will it drop right in ...what could i expect....i might just do it for sure. that and a ceramic rear bearing..would it be a sleeper

yes it will

i know you like working on your own engines ;):D

houston 01-03-2010 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by topcat-lll (Post 6800326)
Mark & Monty
On the toro nero thread you guys where talking about venturies. (restrictors)
I always ran the stock restrictor, because I thought the engine companies put
in the best overall restrictor for that particular engine, but that may not be in
all cases. My FMS seemed to have a rich stumble and miss in the mid to upper
rpm range that I could not tune out with the HSN when using the 9853/41021
w/OD#97t and 25% nitro. I love the 9853's low-end punch. I'm thinking maybe
I should try the 7.5mm or 8mm venturi to get more oxygen in the mix? The
stock is a 6.5mm. Now I'm runnig a 9901 which runs great, but I miss the
9853's punch.

yes , use the 7.5mm venturi on the fms :D if you need that extra 30 sec. go back to 6.5mm

and try the 41005 header on the 9853 ;)

topcat-lll 01-03-2010 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 6800415)
yes , use the 7.5mm venturi on the fms :D if you need that extra 30 sec. go back to 6.5mm

and try the 41005 header on the 9853 ;)

Thanks Monty I'll try the 7.5mm. I won't need the 30 sec of the 6.5mm, because I'm getting way over 10 mins a tank.

the_winner 01-03-2010 02:10 PM

Hi to all novarossi fans ... i need your help

tomorrow i will order my new engine but i dont know which to order!:lol:
From novas i am between 5XLT and Plus4 which is better for my truggy?the track is medium with one-two straights....also which pipe and header?
thanks!

r1harper 01-03-2010 02:52 PM

That was just wrong.:cry:..LOL...i am trying to learn though...

houston 01-03-2010 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by r1harper (Post 6800600)
That was just wrong.:cry:..LOL...i am trying to learn though...

Nothing wrong with learning Wes

I would say p5xl to the guy with question about plus4 or p5.

P5xl/9853ss/41005. Really big track 9886/41021

The plus 4 is good but the 5 port just has that little extra.

Dirtdobber 01-03-2010 05:56 PM

after run oil
 
What can I safely use for storage oil in the FMS? Something I can get at Wally World or auto parts store.

PowerHouse 01-03-2010 06:31 PM

Marvel Mystery Oil is what I use to assemble and/or store all of my engines.

houston 01-03-2010 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by PowerHouse (Post 6801713)
Marvel Mystery Oil is what I use to assemble and/or store all of my engines.

havent had any issued with the silicone filling and the marvel mystery ?

any full synthetic oil for silicone works great also

this is the best http://rbmods.net/rbshop/index.php?t...&product_id=59

wingracer 01-03-2010 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 6801845)
havent had any issued with the silicone filling and the marvel mystery ?

I never had any issues with it but I switched to a synthetic anyway after hearing about it.

houston 01-03-2010 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by wingracer (Post 6801863)
I never had any issues with it but I switched to a synthetic anyway after hearing about it.

just wondering cause i have seen a few factory filled silicone crank fillings come loose to what i deduced to be the MMO , and wd40 is a big no no with the silicone filling :nod:

full synthetic works excellent imo.

that rb mods ARO is the best period !!!

jet flyer 01-03-2010 07:36 PM

How does the GMK afterlife oil compare?

teamlosi906 01-03-2010 07:39 PM

engines
 
i,ve been using 2 and 4 stroke fogging oil for a couple years now i use it instead of after run oil it works great for the bearings in any motor for storage also never had it hurt the silicone in the cranks and it starts up easy and 1 spray can last forever for 7 to 10 dollars

"Smiley" 01-03-2010 07:52 PM

Just got 1.5 Gallons through my N21R Limited 3 Port. This little Engine is awesome! Still has a bunch of metal to metal pinch. Timed a few tanks today, Ran out at 10:21, 10:25, 10:30. I'm using the 6.5 Restrictor, 9886 Pipe w/ Ofna ] Header, and a Novarossi Exhaust Cooler. Everyone at my local track is very suprised by the amout of power it puts out. Runs at 230 all day long. Could'nt be happier with a $140 Engine! ;)

houston 01-03-2010 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by teamlosi906 (Post 6802092)
i,ve been using 2 and 4 stroke fogging oil for a couple years now i use it instead of after run oil it works great for the bearings in any motor for storage also never had it hurt the silicone in the cranks and it starts up easy and 1 spray can last forever for 7 to 10 dollars

awesome , its always nice to find the cheap alternatives . :nod:

but when the best is to be had and money is no option ;)

houston 01-03-2010 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by "Smiley" (Post 6802166)
Just got 1.5 Gallons through my N21R Limited 3 Port. This little Engine is awesome! Still has a bunch of metal to metal pinch. Timed a few tanks today, Ran out at 10:21, 10:25, 10:30. I'm using the 6.5 Restrictor, 9886 Pipe w/ Ofna ] Header, and a Novarossi Exhaust Cooler. Everyone at my local track is very suprised by the amout of power it puts out. Runs at 230 all day long. Could'nt be happier with a $140 Engine! ;)

stocker?


they are excellent engines period! the price is just a bonus ;)

PowerHouse 01-03-2010 09:50 PM

[QUOTE=houston;6801845]havent had any issued with the silicone filling and the marvel mystery ?

Nothing yet. I also don't flood the engine full of it either. When assembling new engines, I use a dropper to control oil amount and placement so the engine receives the oil the proper places in the proper amount to ship and get fired up. After the customer gets it, it is up to them what they want to use to clean their engine. Most people don't because they feel the oil residue from the fuel protects enough between runs. I go through mine after every race weekend, clean it up, check things out and reoil the parts the same way I build everyone's engine. I can see some chemicals making the silicone expand and not adhering to the metals anymore but the stuff I use doesn't seem to be affected by the oils I use in the engines. Maybe I will take a filled crank and let it soak in WD40 and MMO for a few days and see what happens:sneaky:

mamon 01-03-2010 10:24 PM

I heard Nova engine price will increase this 2010. Is this true?

houston 01-03-2010 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by mamon (Post 6802806)
I heard Nova engine price will increase this 2010. Is this true?

i got the distributor list and yes there are some price increases and even a few revamped engines :blush:


team edition engines :nod:

and new hotter ranged glow plugs that hopefully work:D

the new plugs are labeled as h instead of f or g , look for them soon .


got lots of parts and engines , get a hold of me :)

teamlosi906 01-04-2010 03:29 AM

motor
 
whats the best after oil to run i,ve been using fogging oil for years in our expensive modded snowmobile race engines and outboard boat engines so i used it in the glow engines because it lubes the cyl and bearings nice and keeps the moisture out and the motor stays looking like new inside, not that it is a cheap alternative i like it over regular after run oil. who makes the best oil to use i would rather use what most engine builders use thanks for your time :confused::confused::confused:

the_winner 01-04-2010 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 6801139)
Nothing wrong with learning Wes

I would say p5xl to the guy with question about plus4 or p5.

P5xl/9853ss/41005. Really big track 9886/41021

The plus 4 is good but the 5 port just has that little extra.

grrrr some guys tell me the plus4 and some the 5xlt... i am in a dilemma..:flaming:
If i buy the plus4 it will move my truggy fast?i mean i will have the same power with my dynamite 28 but with better flow in bowerband??or my truggy will move like turtle ?
i am between 5xlt and plus4 and i am a click before to order my new engine but i dont know which :flaming:
also the dynamite 053 pipe is the same with the novarossi 9853?

zixxer 01-04-2010 05:47 AM

can anyone confirm only having physically used one ...that a grp engine tool will work on the current nova engines ? namely the p5xlt and the +4 line ...mainly i am wanting to know if the rear bearing puller in the grp engine toll kit will work ? thanks a bunch :)

the_winner 01-04-2010 06:01 AM

Finally i buy the Plus 4 Tuned with a Dynamite 053 Pipe and a 41021 header
Thank you all !

r1harper 01-04-2010 09:26 AM

The winner..either one is a great choice, i am learning more on this thread form all these Nova guys..Monty has been very helpful. I am liking the p5 and may do as he suggested and put a different crank in there.

r1harper 01-04-2010 09:29 AM

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here is a pic of my son (the one who races) he got 3rd at a money race this weekend.. Xray 808, Nova P5xlt and nova 086/long header, Byrons 30% and AKA city blocks

"Smiley" 01-04-2010 10:51 AM

Monty,

Yes, Stock N21R Limited 3 Port, OD 99 Plug (Didnt have any 100's), 9886 with Ofna ] "Square" Header, 6.5 Restrictor, Sidewinder Prototype Fuel. Tested it on 2 different tracks, One is 150X70, The other was 160X60. Awesome little engine, Had people turning heads at our New Years Race this past weekend. ;)

r1harper 01-04-2010 11:14 AM

who won..we started to go but went to Finishline instead

martinh 01-04-2010 01:30 PM

[QUOTE=PowerHouse;6802705]

Originally Posted by houston (Post 6801845)
havent had any issued with the silicone filling and the marvel mystery ?

Nothing yet. I also don't flood the engine full of it either. When assembling new engines, I use a dropper to control oil amount and placement so the engine receives the oil the proper places in the proper amount to ship and get fired up. After the customer gets it, it is up to them what they want to use to clean their engine. Most people don't because they feel the oil residue from the fuel protects enough between runs. I go through mine after every race weekend, clean it up, check things out and reoil the parts the same way I build everyone's engine. I can see some chemicals making the silicone expand and not adhering to the metals anymore but the stuff I use doesn't seem to be affected by the oils I use in the engines. Maybe I will take a filled crank and let it soak in WD40 and MMO for a few days and see what happens:sneaky:

Mark I dont know if your aware but Novarossi advise against useing WD-40 in their motors. If you go on their web site and go to faq at the bottom of the page and then go to 13th item down the list entitled, What is after run oil & how do i use it. They advise not to put WD-40 or oils containing silicon in their motors. I know WD-40 is silicon free but perhaps their are other things in it not suitable for motors. Or is it Nova wanting you to buy their oils. Martin

houston 01-04-2010 02:12 PM

[QUOTE=martinh;6805323]

Originally Posted by PowerHouse (Post 6802705)

Mark I dont know if your aware but Novarossi advise against useing WD-40 in their motors. If you go on their web site and go to faq at the bottom of the page and then go to 13th item down the list entitled, What is after run oil & how do i use it. They advise not to put WD-40 or oils containing silicon in their motors. I know WD-40 is silicon free but perhaps their are other things in it not suitable for motors. Or is it Nova wanting you to buy their oils. Martin

wd-40 will break down the silicone ramp filler in the cranks and also eat the seal on the front bearing. i have tested and seen many things happen to engines and i say and recommend what i do based on actual experiences and not hearsay . ;)

i am not "sponsored" per say by the people/companies that i recommend , i just promote good quality products and if i find a flaw in the product i will see what it takes to fix it unless it lets me down during a race over and over even after i had tried to fix. :mad::lol:


rbmods after run oil is the best !!! rick is an awesome guy and is a frickin genius in the nitro rc world !!! his products are second to none and his modificatons , well lets just say they are vvveerrryyy very fast ;)

happy motorin',
monty

"Smiley" 01-04-2010 02:46 PM

r1harper- The New Years Race @ Mikes in Porter, Tx? I won, Colby was 2nd, not sure who got 3rd. Won by 2 laps and change. :nod:

teamlosi906 01-04-2010 03:26 PM

p5xs
 
just a few questions i have a p5xs nova for my 8t 2.0 losi truggy and a 9853 pipe is this motor anything close in power to say the plus 21-4 or p5xlt motor we run on a good size clay track med to large just debating what to use i havent tried it out yet any help thanks :tire::tire::confused:


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