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HyperB5 04-07-2010 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Werks (Post 7243044)
Here's a better question, how much do they cost?

It might cost you less lol...but I paid $99 shipped!

RJNicholson 04-07-2010 02:09 PM

99.95 if I am correct. Got mine at an intro offer of 89.95.

They have a Thread on here.

Heater is amazing. Hands down a must have.

HyperB5 04-07-2010 02:11 PM

I've already got people asking me to borrow it to "break in" their new engines! :lol:

Werks 04-07-2010 02:34 PM

I'll agree it seems to be a neat piece of equipment but how much do you guys actually think that pre-heating the engine increases the longevity of a motor by? 10%? Just looking at things from a cost versus return stand point. $200 engine, 10% more life = $20 more life per engine. $100 investment to purchase / $20 = life of 5 engines to recoup the investment. Just something to think about. Technically the product interests me, I'm just curious about the actual benefits of using these type of thnings.

Quad Racer 34 04-07-2010 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by Werks (Post 7242007)
How would the temperature that you idle your first tank of fuel through your engine, ultimately affect the end temperature that it makes power at once broken in?:confused: Try to keep things simple, these are basically lumps of metal that pump air. Metal does not have memory, it will not remember what temperature it was ran at last time, it does not remember that you broke it in using one type of fuel so if you switch brands you will have to break it in again etc. etc.

Also you commented that in my break in guide I did not mention anything about having to keep the temperature close to 200 deg when ideling the first tank. The reason that I did not is that first I think that there is WAY TOO MUCH attention being put on keeping engines at certain temperatures and not about what we are really tying to do which is gradually run in an engine. Using my break in system the temp that the engine runs at is the temp that the engine runs at, I'm more concerned about how much lubricant is being put through the engine and the load that you are putting on it. Other systems seem to be more focused on the temperature that an engine runs at but again, I have never felt comfortable having an engine set so lean that it's ideling at 200 degree's even when it was full broken in so I highly doubt that I would do this on a brand new motor. Again, just differences in opinions on systems that ultimately end up with the same end result, a race ready engine.

i wasnt 100% sure, thanks for clarifying it..

JAMMINKRAZY 04-07-2010 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by Werks (Post 7243146)
I'll agree it seems to be a neat piece of equipment but how much do you guys actually think that pre-heating the engine increases the longevity of a motor by? 10%? Just looking at things from a cost versus return stand point. $200 engine, 10% more life = $20 more life per engine. $100 investment to purchase / $20 = life of 5 engines to recoup the investment. Just something to think about. Technically the product interests me, I'm just curious about the actual benefits of using these type of thnings.

It has other benefits besides increasing engine longevity. Pre-heating the engine will help it fire up easier, get up to running temp faster on the track(and therefore to it's actual tune faster) and tune in more easily as you have the engine up to operating temp quicker/more easily.

I personally don't have my engine heater yet, but I have experienced all of the above when using a heat gun to pre-heat, so I would imagine the engine heater will do an even better job. It gets cold here in the Northeast in the winter, and it is a pain getting an engine up to temp and tuned in without pre-heating.;)

HyperB5 04-07-2010 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Werks (Post 7243146)
I'll agree it seems to be a neat piece of equipment but how much do you guys actually think that pre-heating the engine increases the longevity of a motor by? 10%? Just looking at things from a cost versus return stand point. $200 engine, 10% more life = $20 more life per engine. $100 investment to purchase / $20 = life of 5 engines to recoup the investment. Just something to think about. Technically the product interests me, I'm just curious about the actual benefits of using these type of thnings.

I hear you...but I'm more interested in the product for when I'm leisurely sitting on the back deck, soaking up the nice weather, wearing earplugs, and breaking in some new engines on the bench! It's hard to keep the temps up with that darn propeller!

Jason Pelletier 04-07-2010 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by vaggozer (Post 7242768)
Cant wait to get it!

Me too.

HyperB5 04-07-2010 02:50 PM

It also has a Port hole for your glow ignitor so you can start your engine while the heaters on! And, it has a 5 inch lead that detaches from the main cord so you can skoot around with it on for a few!

RJNicholson 04-07-2010 02:58 PM

The Heat will also work into the diffs and chassis.

Which is huge for me I hate having to waste time on the track blowing a few easy laps warming up the rest of the car and motor.

Nothing beats throwing a car down thats already a lap or two away from being at race temps.

HyperB5 04-07-2010 02:59 PM

Ron,

Bye the way, I finally got the chance to run your fuel today! It took me a little while to get the engine acclimated but it really is good stuff! Can't believe it's only 9% oil!

It's also got a VERY distinctive smell!

I have question about something you mentioned to me earlier so I will send you a pm!

Werks 04-07-2010 03:21 PM

I keep on forgetting that not all of you guys are fortunate enough to live in CA. Heck here if you want to pre-heat your motor all you do is toss your car out in the sun, give it 30 minutes and it will be 80 in the winter or 100+ in the summer lol!

toughtrax 04-07-2010 03:33 PM

Ron not very nice of you to bring that up LOl It's 44 here today North of Chicago

Werks 04-07-2010 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by HyperB5 (Post 7243229)
Ron,

Bye the way, I finally got the chance to run your fuel today! It took me a little while to get the engine acclimated but it really is good stuff! Can't believe it's only 9% oil!

It's also got a VERY distinctive smell!

I have question about something you mentioned to me earlier so I will send you a pm!

Hey HyperB5, thanks for trying out our fuel, what were your thoughts? Notice any difference in performance? Also regarding the lubricant content, we actually do not disclose the oil content of our fuel (so I'm not sure where you got that number from) but as you probably noticed there is plenty of lubricant in the fuel!

CompetitionHeat 04-07-2010 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Werks (Post 7243146)
I'll agree it seems to be a neat piece of equipment but how much do you guys actually think that pre-heating the engine increases the longevity of a motor by? 10%? Just looking at things from a cost versus return stand point. $200 engine, 10% more life = $20 more life per engine. $100 investment to purchase / $20 = life of 5 engines to recoup the investment. Just something to think about. Technically the product interests me, I'm just curious about the actual benefits of using these type of thnings.

I have been following this thread for a few weeks now. I just purchased a new truggy and the Werks engine has been at the top of my list for choice in power, I might have to reconsider now:lol:

All joking aside, I think if you gave the Comp. Heater a try it will make you a believer, just as I am sure once I have tried your engine I will be convinced. It has many benifits including increasing engine life. I hope you have the opportunity to try one sometime.


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