1LikesSirio engines thread
08-14-2004 | 08:04 PM
#526
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From: lima-peru
Originally posted by Aku-Man
I see the Japanese manual (not really understand it). This engine can use part# s1720025~s1720128 glow plug.
s1720025~s1720028 are s5~8 Hot
s1720125~s1720128 are s5~8 Cold
I fould out they are turbo plug? Isn't this engine use standard plug?
I see the Japanese manual (not really understand it). This engine can use part# s1720025~s1720128 glow plug.
s1720025~s1720028 are s5~8 Hot
s1720125~s1720128 are s5~8 Cold
I fould out they are turbo plug? Isn't this engine use standard plug?
AND WHAT THEY ARE TELLING YOU IS THE PART NUMBERS FOR ALLTHE RANGE OF PLUGS YOU CAN USE DEPENDING ON WEATHER CONDITIONS, PERCENTAGE OF NITRO, AND HEAD SHIM.
HOT FILAMENT PLUGS ARE FROM HOTTEST TO COLDEST
S1720025
S1720026
S1720027
S1720028
COLD FILAMENT PLUGS ARE FROM HOTTEST TO COLDEST
S1720125
S1720126
S1720127
S1720128
SO, WHAT ANDREA ROSSI RECCOMMENDS FOR THIS ENGINE WITH 20% NITRO FUEL AND 0.20MM HEAD SHIM, IS THE S1720127 COLD FILAMENT TURBO PLUG, OR IT'S NOVAROSSI EQUIVALENT C7TGF.
YOU MIGHT WAN'T TO CHECK WITH YOUR NEAREST LOCAL HOBBY SHOP, OR AT THE TRACK WHERE YOU INTEND TO RUN WITH YOUR FELLOW DRIVERS TO SEE WHERE THEY GET THEIR PLUGS.
I BUY MY STUFF FROM WWW.ATOMICHOBBIES.COM YOU CAN TRY THEM, THEY ARE IN FLORIDA.
AFM
08-16-2004 | 09:21 AM
#529
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well i just found out why my motor just stopped aside from running crappy being tough to tune...i had a circlip come out...luckily i didnt glue in my sleeve yet...whew but once again my sirio is sitting on the pit bench useless
oh well ill know better next time thanks for the info guys....
oh well ill know better next time thanks for the info guys....
08-16-2004 | 04:15 PM
#530
Re: BREAK IN PROCESS
Originally posted by afm
THIS YOU WON'T FIND AT RINITY'S SITE
This is what Andrea Rossi from Sirio says for Break-In
AFM
This is the correct Break-In procedure for the Sirio S12 Evo2
1.- One 125CC (1) tank in the bench at WOT with very rich setting of HSN, avoiding it to go on 4 stroke.
COOL DOWN
2.- Three (3) tanks on the track at WOT on the main straight with very rich setting of HSN, as if the engine wants to die, and tuning the HSN at the end of third tank to get almost full power.
COOL DOWN AFTER EVERY TANK
3.- For 20% Nitro, use .20 head shim and N° 7 Glow plug.
After that, the engine will give more power every new tank.
Which means that Breaking-In Sirios, should be done with more or less 300 to 500cc of fuel.
Andrea Rossi
Star Motor Corp. (SIRIO)
THIS YOU WON'T FIND AT RINITY'S SITE
This is what Andrea Rossi from Sirio says for Break-In
AFM
This is the correct Break-In procedure for the Sirio S12 Evo2
1.- One 125CC (1) tank in the bench at WOT with very rich setting of HSN, avoiding it to go on 4 stroke.
COOL DOWN
2.- Three (3) tanks on the track at WOT on the main straight with very rich setting of HSN, as if the engine wants to die, and tuning the HSN at the end of third tank to get almost full power.
COOL DOWN AFTER EVERY TANK
3.- For 20% Nitro, use .20 head shim and N° 7 Glow plug.
After that, the engine will give more power every new tank.
Which means that Breaking-In Sirios, should be done with more or less 300 to 500cc of fuel.
Andrea Rossi
Star Motor Corp. (SIRIO)
Also to, I just picked up a sirio 12 trp pro 3 port AAC turbo, the one with the blue head before the EVO 2 came out. I need an SG crankshaft for it and want to know if any crank from the sirio 12 range from the first engine to the new EVO 2 will fit?
08-16-2004 | 04:25 PM
#531
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From: lima-peru
Re: Re: BREAK IN PROCESS
Originally posted by shiston
With the first tank, is there a temperature we should try to keep the engine running at stay at? 80, 90, 100 degrees celcius?
Also to, I just picked up a sirio 12 trp pro 3 port AAC turbo, the one with the blue head before the EVO 2 came out. I need an SG crankshaft for it and want to know if any crank from the sirio 12 range from the first engine to the new EVO 2 will fit?
With the first tank, is there a temperature we should try to keep the engine running at stay at? 80, 90, 100 degrees celcius?
Also to, I just picked up a sirio 12 trp pro 3 port AAC turbo, the one with the blue head before the EVO 2 came out. I need an SG crankshaft for it and want to know if any crank from the sirio 12 range from the first engine to the new EVO 2 will fit?
ALL .12 SG CRANKS FIT, BUT TRY AND GET NEW EVO 2 CRANK IT'S MUCH BETTER THAN OLD STYLE, BIGGER CRANK HOLE AND BETTER TIMING.
AFM
08-16-2004 | 05:56 PM
#533
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From: lima-peru
Originally posted by shiston
Thanks AFM.
Now where I can get one of these EVO2 SG cranks?
Thanks AFM.
Now where I can get one of these EVO2 SG cranks?
PART NUMBER S12081200 S.12 RACING CRANK U$D 55.99
AFM
08-16-2004 | 10:40 PM
#534
Re: BREAK IN PROCESS
Originally posted by afm
THIS YOU WON'T FIND AT RINITY'S SITE
This is what Andrea Rossi from Sirio says for Break-In
AFM
This is the correct Break-In procedure for the Sirio S12 Evo2
1.- One 125CC (1) tank in the bench at WOT with very rich setting of HSN, avoiding it to go on 4 stroke.
COOL DOWN
2.- Three (3) tanks on the track at WOT on the main straight with very rich setting of HSN, as if the engine wants to die, and tuning the HSN at the end of third tank to get almost full power.
COOL DOWN AFTER EVERY TANK
3.- For 20% Nitro, use .20 head shim and N° 7 Glow plug.
After that, the engine will give more power every new tank.
Which means that Breaking-In Sirios, should be done with more or less 300 to 500cc of fuel.
Andrea Rossi
Star Motor Corp. (SIRIO)
THIS YOU WON'T FIND AT RINITY'S SITE
This is what Andrea Rossi from Sirio says for Break-In
AFM
This is the correct Break-In procedure for the Sirio S12 Evo2
1.- One 125CC (1) tank in the bench at WOT with very rich setting of HSN, avoiding it to go on 4 stroke.
COOL DOWN
2.- Three (3) tanks on the track at WOT on the main straight with very rich setting of HSN, as if the engine wants to die, and tuning the HSN at the end of third tank to get almost full power.
COOL DOWN AFTER EVERY TANK
3.- For 20% Nitro, use .20 head shim and N° 7 Glow plug.
After that, the engine will give more power every new tank.
Which means that Breaking-In Sirios, should be done with more or less 300 to 500cc of fuel.
Andrea Rossi
Star Motor Corp. (SIRIO)
What size prop do you use? I got a wooden 8x6 but from te looks of things the car and air filter will be in the way of the props spinning path.
08-17-2004 | 01:42 AM
#535
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From: lima-peru
Re: Re: BREAK IN PROCESS
Originally posted by shiston
What size prop do you use? I got a wooden 8x6 but from te looks of things the car and air filter will be in the way of the props spinning path.
What size prop do you use? I got a wooden 8x6 but from te looks of things the car and air filter will be in the way of the props spinning path.
YES, AIR FILTER DOES GET IN THE WAY, SO I RUN-IN MY ENGINES WITHOUT AIR FILTER IN A CLEAN ENVIROMENT.
AFM
08-18-2004 | 08:29 PM
#536
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From: Charleston WV
I have sirrios modded by Dennis Richey Mathew ( Smeltz racing), and just purchased a Murnan EVO 2 engine. I have'nt ran the Murnan engine yet,, but... I'm not empressed with his work at all. The smelz and the Richey have unreal bottom, and mid range end. Which is what we're looking for. The polishinging and so called porting work in the Murnan murnan is'nt much. I hope the engines performance is better that the workmanship looks like.
And Baker says he's never ran a faster engine?? Hmm! I guess Barry,never ran a Richey before!! LOL. Anybody running a Murnan Ufmar moddied EVO2?? Just curiuos!!
And Baker says he's never ran a faster engine?? Hmm! I guess Barry,never ran a Richey before!! LOL. Anybody running a Murnan Ufmar moddied EVO2?? Just curiuos!!
08-18-2004 | 08:38 PM
#537
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From: lima-peru
Originally posted by bbntc3
I have sirrios modded by Dennis Richey Mathew ( Smeltz racing), and just purchased a Murnan EVO 2 engine. I have'nt ran the Murnan engine yet,, but... I'm not empressed with his work at all. The smelz and the Richey have unreal bottom, and mid range end. Which is what we're looking for. The polishinging and so called porting work in the Murnan murnan is'nt much. I hope the engines performance is better that the workmanship looks like.
And Baker says he's never ran a faster engine?? Hmm! I guess Barry,never ran a Richey before!! LOL. Anybody running a Murnan Ufmar moddied EVO2?? Just curiuos!!
I have sirrios modded by Dennis Richey Mathew ( Smeltz racing), and just purchased a Murnan EVO 2 engine. I have'nt ran the Murnan engine yet,, but... I'm not empressed with his work at all. The smelz and the Richey have unreal bottom, and mid range end. Which is what we're looking for. The polishinging and so called porting work in the Murnan murnan is'nt much. I hope the engines performance is better that the workmanship looks like.
And Baker says he's never ran a faster engine?? Hmm! I guess Barry,never ran a Richey before!! LOL. Anybody running a Murnan Ufmar moddied EVO2?? Just curiuos!!
Sometimes looks can be deceiving , but it's performance that counts.
I have two Evo2 engines, one AAC and the other ABC, both modified by me, and both are unbelievable fast, with the AAC being more stable at high temps.
A friend of mine just got a Murnan modified Evo2, will see it at the track soon and let you know....but the only one that can tell which is better of the three you mentioned, is yourself, because you have them all.
AFM
08-18-2004 | 09:10 PM
#538
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Originally posted by bbntc3
I have sirrios modded by Dennis Richey Mathew ( Smeltz racing), and just purchased a Murnan EVO 2 engine.
I have sirrios modded by Dennis Richey Mathew ( Smeltz racing), and just purchased a Murnan EVO 2 engine.
I thought he stopped modding for the general public even before Sirio came out with their engines.
08-18-2004 | 09:13 PM
#539
Originally posted by afm
If you have the three engines why don't you test them at the track and give us your impressions on a hand to hand comparison.
Sometimes looks can be deceiving , but it's performance that counts.
I have two Evo2 engines, one AAC and the other ABC, both modified by me, and both are unbelievable fast, with the AAC being more stable at high temps.
A friend of mine just got a Murnan modified Evo2, will see it at the track soon and let you know....but the only one that can tell which is better of the three you mentioned, is yourself, because you have them all.
AFM
If you have the three engines why don't you test them at the track and give us your impressions on a hand to hand comparison.
Sometimes looks can be deceiving , but it's performance that counts.
I have two Evo2 engines, one AAC and the other ABC, both modified by me, and both are unbelievable fast, with the AAC being more stable at high temps.
A friend of mine just got a Murnan modified Evo2, will see it at the track soon and let you know....but the only one that can tell which is better of the three you mentioned, is yourself, because you have them all.
AFM
Edward
08-20-2004 | 07:37 AM
#540
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From: Charleston WV
Originally posted by InitialD
Just curious... Did Dennis mod a Sirio before? I thought he stopped modding for the general public even before Sirio came out with their engines.
Just curious... Did Dennis mod a Sirio before?
I thought he stopped modding for the general public even before Sirio came out with their engines.
The sirrio Dennis done for me was modded after he quit doing general public work. He doe'snt like the sirrio engines I don't think. He done 2 for me I think just for a anti Trinity thingy! I think I have the only Sirrio/ Richey mods. And after alittle testing with it against the Murnan power, Dennis still rules for the power range we need. Not cutting on Murnan, he does good work, but just not the power range we need. I'm also using a MT that has some Top Gun 777 work for short tracks that is very impressive to. Hell , the MT will eat the Rody RB 5 port turbos up!!!
Sometimes it pays to be more than the general public.