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Neesh 05-10-2014 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by Herrsavage (Post 13251503)
I think at least one of the things going on is that some of the Blasts come from Germany, some from RB UK, etc.. They don't all come from the same place(the parts do, of course..) Again - I'm not totally sure, but it seems to be so.. The V9 for ex. was available in the UK and US (Amain), but never in Germany. Some of the recent ones I've only seen available in southern Europe. AFAIK the first Blasts came from RMV in Germany.. Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's not the case that all the Blasts have come from one central company, one after the other. They originate in different places and markets.. Or maybe they are all produced in one place, but distributed differently via various national distributors (like RMV in Germany..) for the various markets.. In Germany for ex. I'm pretty sure the only ones ever available here were the V1-V5, V8, V10-12, and the V14. I think the V17 too is on the RMV site... None of the others though were ever availble here.

I haven't run either my V9 or V15 yet. I thought the V15 had a 14.5mm crank? What do you think of the V15?

So far I have only run my Fires, which I really, really like.. They're also Blast-esque afaik, being made up of older parts from other engines...

makes sense to me now, You could be right.
As for the V15..Features:

Long stroke
Turbo 14mm balanced and lightened crankshaft, with two balance weights.
Competition light and strong conrod
High speed main and front ball bearings
Piston/liner 5 ports with 2 by pass and MES (Multi Exhaust System)
Turbo combustion chamber
Rigid and strong carter
9mm special buggy carburettor with 7mm restrictor
Big cooling head
Orange dust protectors included

there was a prior version with a LCG head but I don't know which one. Wish I got that one.
I really can't say on the stock V15 performance in truggy because I added some crank timing on it before hand. Pushes the D8T around with ease.

BillyT. 05-11-2014 10:25 AM

Yup... my V11 was all RB parts. V19 was all Nova. Even the RB guy at Amain didn't know the 19 had a different rod.

So far so good on the new 19. No funny business. 15 break in going smoothly as well. Be interesting to have them both broke in at the same time and get a chance to compare how they run.

Herrsavage 05-11-2014 10:30 AM

Interesting.. Probably because some RB parts are likely just straight-up rebranded Nova parts.

travertini 05-11-2014 10:46 AM

Anyone have any feedback on the new slsdi5 yet ? Is it just a bonito or something entirely different ?

DaveG28 05-11-2014 12:43 PM

Hi all,

Hoping you can help, during Neo I gave up on my Reds engine and put in a new bxrsls5 and the RB guys there tuned it in...

...anyway, having only ever had an os and then reds before, and only ever having done 6-7 nitro meetings, I never asked about the needles on the rb!

So on the below, the needle in the brass collar is the main/hls, is the other screw visible the lsn, or the idle screw? Also, is it normal to have so much screw exposed as that?

If it isn't the lsn where is lsn, and if it is is the idle screw the one on the throttle linkage?

http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...102EBF7FC1.jpg

Grinder 05-11-2014 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 13254390)
Hi all,

Hoping you can help, during Neo I gave up on my Reds engine and put in a new bxrsls5 and the RB guys there tuned it in...

...anyway, having only ever had an os and then reds before, and only ever having done 6-7 nitro meetings, I never asked about the needles on the rb!

So on the below, the needle in the brass collar is the main/hls, is the other screw visible the lsn, or the idle screw? Also, is it normal to have so much screw exposed as that?

If it isn't the lsn where is lsn, and if it is is the idle screw the one on the throttle linkage?

http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...102EBF7FC1.jpg

Everything there looks normal. Yes, it's normal for the idle screw to stick out that far.

The low speed needle is the one inside the carb slide.

Maximo 05-11-2014 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by travertini (Post 13254185)
Anyone have any feedback on the new slsdi5 yet ? Is it just a bonito or something entirely different ?

Short and Sweet analysis .... A Bonito and C6 have a baby.... this baby would be the BXRSLSDI5....... It has the same geometric architecture as the Bonito but with a C6 style sleeve ...So it runs quite similar to a Bonito..I would say slightly more bottom end oriented... Also short needle carb, which does have a different tuning characteristic...... I just ran a modified version the other day in the field....It ran quite well and felt very good..... Our track is still a mud pit from winter thaw, so have not had it on the track yet...

DaveG28 05-11-2014 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by Grinder (Post 13254418)
Everything there looks normal. Yes, it's normal for the idle screw to stick out that far.

The low speed needle is the one inside the carb slide.

Ok, so that's the idle screw and the lsn is the one facing the other way on the slide? Thanks!

BillyT. 05-11-2014 06:04 PM

Okay... good news...

Both engines have 8 tanks then a full fuel bottle thru them.

V15 is in buggy with a 2045, temping about 210. So smooth. It's gonna need a little more up top, but that is probably because of the pipe. Pipe prolly why it's temping a little higher than V19. So crazy how quiet this pipe is...

V19 is in truck with a 2013, temping 185, plenty of power for truck, even at this point. Super happy with it considering what I went thru to get to this point(long story). Once it drops it's gonna get crazy. The 2013 works really well on these engines in a truck, even a stock one. So is the stock Blast enough for a truck? The answer is yes.

So at this point I just rem them as is till they drop. Big race this weekend so it's sure to happen at the worst possible time :-|

Super happy to be back with RBs.

BillyT. 05-11-2014 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 13254434)
Ok, so that's the idle screw and the lsn is the one facing the other way on the slide? Thanks!

:nod:

Jaz240 05-11-2014 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by BillyT. (Post 13255008)
Okay... good news...

Both engines have 8 tanks then a full fuel bottle thru them.

V15 is in buggy with a 2045, temping about 210. So smooth. It's gonna need a little more up top, but that is probably because of the pipe. Pipe prolly why it's temping a little higher than V19. So crazy how quiet this pipe is...

V19 is in truck with a 2013, temping 185, plenty of power for truck, even at this point. Super happy with it considering what I went thru to get to this point(long story). Once it drops it's gonna get crazy. The 2013 works really well on these engines in a truck, even a stock one. So is the stock Blast enough for a truck? The answer is yes.

So at this point I just rem them as is till they drop. Big race this weekend so it's sure to happen at the worst possible time :-|

Super happy to be back with RBs.

Good to hear you got your engine issues sorted. Run tanks in front of your house during the week if you can. Maybe you'll get lucky and drop the nuts before the A main.

travertini 05-12-2014 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 13254427)
Short and Sweet analysis .... A Bonito and C6 have a baby.... this baby would be the BXRSLSDI5....... It has the same geometric architecture as the Bonito but with a C6 style sleeve ...So it runs quite similar to a Bonito..I would say slightly more bottom end oriented... Also short needle carb, which does have a different tuning characteristic...... I just ran a modified version the other day in the field....It ran quite well and felt very good..... Our track is still a mud pit from winter thaw, so have not had it on the track yet...

So it sounds like a winner to me !!! When are they gonna be on ur site ?

B_BOGGS 05-12-2014 07:39 AM

Guys, i have read a few pages of this thread and seems to be rather helpful with everybody's input.

Just wanted to let y'all know if anyone has any questions about engines or any other product RBUSA has feel free to contact me.

Myself along with RBusa's owner Buddy Shores, we will try and take care of anyone as soon as possible.

Blake Boggs - [email protected]

Buddy Shores - [email protected]

http://rbusa.com/

B_BOGGS 05-12-2014 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by slashracer111 (Post 13224528)
I am currently looking into getting a RB BXR super long stroke engine for regional races. It seems to be the highest-end engine RB offers that would work well in a nitro buggy.

Does anyone have any experience on this engine? How does this RB engine compare to it's Novarossi counterpart?

Thanks!

do you really have to ask, Hunter? lol

I prefer this engine to a btt/keep-off 4.

Saw where someone compared to a bonito. I would say its perfectly between a keep-off 4/btt and keep-off 7/bonito

I run the BXR SLS DI 5 in both buggy and truggy!

they are Nova Built engines. Exact quality of any nova product!

hambone 05-12-2014 08:16 AM

Glad to see RB USA back. My Clockwork RBs have quickly turned into favorites. Still rocking my C6 USA and its on 3rd rebuild. Getting another new one in 2 weeks.

fbrk8r 05-12-2014 05:48 PM

Been running an LS5 in my truggy for a little while now and love it! Stupid power and crazy run time! Here is a pic of my tank after a solid 10 min run in the main last week.That's 60cc's left in a 150cc tank! You do the math:
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/...14240696_n.jpg

JTKI3 05-16-2014 08:30 PM

Just picked up a new bxr sls3 for my mp9, anyone have one? I just got back into the racing, always used to race rb engines but at that time i had a C3 98B, S7, WS7 and C6. Figured this new super long stroke 3 port was a good choice for the twisty, tight track I race on now. Haven't fired it up yet but looking forward to breaking it in next weekend.

A7racer 05-20-2014 10:38 AM

any feedback on the Kanai Edition engine? Cant find much info on it anywhere and Amain Hobbies got a smoking deal on the pipe combo right now. Would like to know a little more about it before I click on it.

BillyT. 05-21-2014 06:37 AM

V19 and V15 were perfect all weekend at the Lone Star Dirt Nitro Challenge. Qualified for the A in both open truck and buggy. 10+ min pits with V15 and 2058 helped me end up in the 7th spot in buggy, and the V19, while not quite giving me the run time I need just yet was ripping with the RB2045 pipe, plenty of power for truck, ended up in the 6th spot even with the extra fuel stop in the 30 min main...

So glad to be back with RBs...

BillyT. 05-21-2014 06:45 AM

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This was after a 7 min qual... that is a buggy tank...

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachme...1&d=1400679688

Admittedly, it was a little warm after a 30 min main, but it was smoking sounding good the whole time. 250 after 7 min, 280 after 30. Engine still less than a gallon... It did drop though, after the 2nd round of qualifiers. Bench tune could have been a tick lean, but like I said, smoke, power and sound, all there...

Never saw the V19 go above 205, and it still hasn't dropped yet.

Herrsavage 05-27-2014 08:31 AM

http://www.amain.com/product_info.ph...097-Tuned-Pipe

+ %10 off this week... 7-port Blast V20 also on sale...

Lot of RB engines at Amain to choose from.

I'd love to hear about or see that Rally engine in action....

BillyT. 05-27-2014 08:47 AM

Then there is this...

http://rcdriver.com/rb-usa-offers-10...de-in-engines/

http://rcdriver.com/wp-content/uploa.../05/RBdeal.jpg

That Rally would only be 136 bucks. I'll prolly make a move on one here pretty soon...

Surprised this isn't more widely publicized.

joey91473 05-27-2014 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by BillyT. (Post 13292429)
Then there is this...

http://rcdriver.com/rb-usa-offers-10...de-in-engines/

http://rcdriver.com/wp-content/uploa.../05/RBdeal.jpg

That Rally would only be 136 bucks. I'll prolly make a move on one here pretty soon...

Surprised this isn't more widely publicized.

thats a good deal. I see a Blast V20 coming my way. Wonder if this is valid on the v20 with pipe combo... Rb Usa??

Neesh 05-27-2014 01:11 PM

Called RBUSA for a friend and the deal is only for the BXR/CXR series of engines. Sport models such as the Rally 14/ Blast series are not included. Still an awesome deal if you're looking to get a high end engine at a great discount.
So basically, send in your complete engine, with name address and phone # and they will call you when they receive the trade in.

A7racer 05-27-2014 03:22 PM

Can someone explain what is the Direct Intake feature on the SLSDI5 engine and how it differs from a regular SLS5? Also if anyone has any feedback on the Kanai engine. Still debating on which to get and take advantage of the specials at A main.

A7racer 05-28-2014 03:21 AM

Then again, just watched the videos of the Clockworks V20 and Rally 14. May have to go with a Clocked engine instead. Still want to know what is the Direct Intake though.

Herrsavage 05-28-2014 03:24 AM

Where's a video of a Rally 14?... Link?

joey91473 05-28-2014 05:09 AM


Originally Posted by A7racer (Post 13294477)
Then again, just watched the videos of the Clockworks V20 and Rally 14. May have to go with a Clocked engine instead. Still want to know what is the Direct Intake though.

Can't go wrong with the clocked v20. I saw one race this past weekend and it was a screamer. I personally run the clocked V15 and it's a beast. Run it in my truggy..

I see a new video out of a clocked 3 port RB engine. Looks pretty sweet.

Maximo 05-28-2014 05:20 AM

well I didn't post this video as its only a test run in grass..... With the spring rains this was the only dry patch I could find and I was eager to test this engine out........... My track wont open till the weekend, so this is the best I have for now, anyone else who is climate challenged will understand this and not say anything derogatory.!

Anyways this is the Clocked Blastv20/rally X-Treme Speed edition on the RB 2097/41021 manifold............Engine runs excellent, gets very good mileage and is fairly fast and powerful ;)..In this video the engine is only a tank off the breakin stand and still has a little ways to go before its will produce peak performance....

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ4rNqvRUZw

The Blast V20 and the RallyX are the same engine, only difference being the insert in the carb and the lettering on the head....The Rally14 is the same as the Fire11, it is a different sleeve then the Rally X and Blast 20......

Maximo 05-28-2014 05:21 AM

And here is my torque mod of the same engine model.....

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InoXvOBFC9w

Maximo 05-28-2014 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by A7racer (Post 13294477)
Then again, just watched the videos of the Clockworks V20 and Rally 14. May have to go with a Clocked engine instead. Still want to know what is the Direct Intake though.


Has a keep-off style bearing......they call that the Direct intake as far as I can tell ...

We have been testing a BXRSLSDI5 and so far it has been a good running mill.....Very comparable to a Bonito or Keep-Off 7, but with more low end grunt...

Herrsavage 05-28-2014 07:01 AM

So should a 7-port V20 or Rally X be good in a truggy?...

Maximo 05-28-2014 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Herrsavage (Post 13294790)
So should a 7-port V20 or Rally X be good in a truggy?...

My Clocked version makes a truggy dance !! ...but I would imagine the stock version is no slouch and would have no issues with truggy ...

A7racer 05-28-2014 09:39 AM

Thanks Neal for posting the videos and your responses. I didn't know there was an Rally X speed edition and a Rally 14, thought they were the same. New to RB so I only saw the 14 around the net.

BillyT. 05-28-2014 09:41 AM

Stock 19 good in truggy, if you are racer... It's not gonna do wheelies, but it's not losing down the straight either. So the 7 ports should be even better...

JTKI3 06-23-2014 03:30 PM

Just an update...I've been racing my bxr sls3 for about a month now and its been an incredible mill. Unbelievable low end power with plenty on top as well and close to 11 mins of runtime with a 7mm venturi installed. Highly recommend this engine, especially for tight tracks.

markmad777 06-26-2014 11:12 AM

For those still running the BX and BXR the previous generation RB we have got a better result from changing the to a medium header instead of the long one supplied in the combo kit .It basically adds power everwhere ,perhaps if you battling for traction and then the longer could be easier to ride though.

We should be goiing over to the new SLSDI5 and SLS5 this weekend and will test the make the same swop to see if the result is similar .

DaveG28 07-05-2014 03:13 PM

Hi guys,

My engine is about broken in now, seems very rich at the top still and due to lean a bit, but as soon as I do I find it doesn't drop back to idle very quick, it hangs on for a little while spinning the wheels (on the box)...

..is this normally a sign of a lean top? I really find it hard to believe the top is lean so what else may it be?

Chris Reilly 07-05-2014 04:31 PM

Without hearing/seeing it. I would try pinch the fuel line and see how long it takes to run out of fuel. I believe it should be between 3-5 seconds. It could be rich on bottom and maybe your idle gap is to large. You may need to lower your idle.

Check out this video.

http://vimeo.com/7595905

DaveG28 07-05-2014 06:57 PM

Ok, I played and changed the problem. Typical. So here is how it's running..

1st this is how it revs up mid use and comes back down:

https://vimeo.com/100010904

This is what happened after 30 seconds of idle:

https://vimeo.com/100010123

And this is after a 90 second idle...it stalls when throttled:

https://vimeo.com/100010165

Appreciate any help! Am pretty confident the hsn is in the range but on the rich side of it, idle and LSN not so sure! Can any experts help!?


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