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mrcdub 08-12-2009 06:27 PM

I need help. My motor temps between 270-300 and idles great but it continues to stall. It stalls in the air, on throttle and off. I'm using an OD 97T plug. Do I need to try a colder plug? Any suggestions?

j_blaze14 08-12-2009 06:44 PM

what motor? what car? how long does it idle if you pinch the line?

mrcdub 08-12-2009 07:47 PM

Reedy .21 motor in a Mugen MBX6... it idles for 3-4 seconds after the line has been pinched..

Kingsbury 08-12-2009 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by mrcdub (Post 6197360)
I need help. My motor temps between 270-300 and idles great but it continues to stall. It stalls in the air, on throttle and off. I'm using an OD 97T plug. Do I need to try a colder plug? Any suggestions?

Keep using that type of plug, try a new one. I've been running my Reedy at max 240 with great performance. Yeah this engine been ran at higher temps but I think 300 for a race tune is a little much. Try richening your top an hour at a time until your at 3 and see how good top end performance you get. Do a few short bursts of throttle and let it idle. See how long it takes for your idle to come down. If it takes a pretty long time i.e. greater than 15 seconds, your probably a little too lean on the bottom. From the idle position grab the gas hard and tell us the reaction of the engine. lots of smoke? bogs?

Also what type of fuel are you using and are the shims in the engine stock?

porter 08-13-2009 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by SkarTisu (Post 6196088)
Yup. Use a little Green Slime on both sides of the gasket between the carb and engine block, and use Loctite on the carb fixing screws.

When you put the green slime on the gastket do you rub it in, or do you just goop in on and squish it between the carb and case?

SinistiR 08-13-2009 05:42 PM

My first carb I sealed the top and bottom of the spacer with Hylomar and I dont think I helped anything by sealing it. My second engine, I made sure the mating surfaces of the spacer were flat. If you look at them, it appears they are hand finished to remove any high spots. Then I loaded the bolts up with loctite and just tightened the bolts enough so that the carb would not rotate anymore. It has worked great for me so far with 3/4 of a gallon through her.

Andy

mrcdub 08-13-2009 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Kingsbury (Post 6198326)
Keep using that type of plug, try a new one. I've been running my Reedy at max 240 with great performance. Yeah this engine been ran at higher temps but I think 300 for a race tune is a little much. Try richening your top an hour at a time until your at 3 and see how good top end performance you get. Do a few short bursts of throttle and let it idle. See how long it takes for your idle to come down. If it takes a pretty long time i.e. greater than 15 seconds, your probably a little too lean on the bottom. From the idle position grab the gas hard and tell us the reaction of the engine. lots of smoke? bogs?

Also what type of fuel are you using and are the shims in the engine stock?

I'm using Odonnell 30% with the stock shims.

SkarTisu 08-13-2009 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by porter (Post 6201261)
When you put the green slime on the gastket do you rub it in, or do you just goop in on and squish it between the carb and case?

The gasket's hard plastic, so I didn't try working the green slime into the surface at all. Just try to spread a LITTLE slime evenly (it doesn't take much at all to make a seal) and tighten the carb.

Nick Simpson 08-14-2009 12:24 AM

Hi guys can anybody tell me how many head shims they are running for 30%

megasaxon 08-14-2009 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by Nick Simpson (Post 6203258)
Hi guys can anybody tell me how many head shims they are running for 30%

Motor comes shimmed for 30%

frontrunner 08-14-2009 03:04 AM

Hey i just got myself a reedy 21, but was wondering what pipe i should get, people say the 2035 is suitable for it, if thats the case is there any difference between the Thunder Tiger 2035 and the team associated 2035 pipe ?

megasaxon 08-14-2009 03:08 AM


Originally Posted by frontrunner (Post 6203474)
Hey i just got myself a reedy 21, but was wondering what pipe i should get, people say the 2035 is suitable for it, if thats the case is there any difference between the Thunder Tiger 2035 and the team associated 2035 pipe ?

nope, same pipe, thats where associated got it from, just ditched the TT markings and put AE markings on it. Pipe is real good with mine on my truggy. People have said that the OS 2060 work really well on it too.

porter 08-14-2009 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by SinistiR (Post 6201852)
My first carb I sealed the top and bottom of the spacer with Hylomar and I dont think I helped anything by sealing it. My second engine, I made sure the mating surfaces of the spacer were flat. If you look at them, it appears they are hand finished to remove any high spots. Then I loaded the bolts up with loctite and just tightened the bolts enough so that the carb would not rotate anymore. It has worked great for me so far with 3/4 of a gallon through her.

Andy


Originally Posted by SkarTisu (Post 6202438)
The gasket's hard plastic, so I didn't try working the green slime into the surface at all. Just try to spread a LITTLE slime evenly (it doesn't take much at all to make a seal) and tighten the carb.

Thanks guys

Brandon Melton 08-14-2009 07:12 AM


Originally Posted by Nick Simpson (Post 6203258)
Hi guys can anybody tell me how many head shims they are running for 30%

stock shimming is .020 in. and is fine for 30%

j8ight13 08-16-2009 02:17 PM

Has anyone tried to run the 121VR with the Losi RE-10? I think im going to pick two of these guys up. The track I run is a short to medium size and from what Ive been hearing this mill is all about that. Anyone know where they stock the parts for it? Ive checked Horizon and them seem to be out of stock on pretty much everything.

Thanks

Jason Pelletier 08-16-2009 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by j8ight13 (Post 6211672)
Has anyone tried to run the 121VR with the Losi RE-10? I think im going to pick two of these guys up. The track I run is a short to medium size and from what Ive been hearing this mill is all about that. Anyone know where they stock the parts for it? Ive checked Horizon and them seem to be out of stock on pretty much everything.

Thanks

i just bought a re11, yet to try it. i am selling a mugen erfra 2042 (2060/re10) for 109 shipped.

i'll update my findings i have only used 053mr.

InfiniteMotors 08-16-2009 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by j8ight13 (Post 6211672)
Has anyone tried to run the 121VR with the Losi RE-10? I think im going to pick two of these guys up. The track I run is a short to medium size and from what Ive been hearing this mill is all about that. Anyone know where they stock the parts for it? Ive checked Horizon and them seem to be out of stock on pretty much everything.

Thanks

SinistiR and I run at XRC in PA, which is definitely short to medium with one 75ft straight. I've watched the 121vr closely while marshalling and honestly it seems to be the best engine for this type of track short of an OS Speed or modded engine. I kept watching closely how it pulled the D8 out of a hairpin that leads directly into a double and came to that conclusion. He can start on throttle while still turning, then punch it just before he straightens out and clear the double with ease. Average engines with good mid to top end power have to swing this hairpin a bit wider in order to clear the double. For our smallish track, this mills punch can really get you around the track fast if used properly.

On the other hand, with the Associated 2035 pipe and stock clutch bell he's running out of steam 3/4 of the way down the straight. This is at a consistent 245-250 degrees. We think the 17t will fix this and honestly with all that bottom I doubt it will cause any problems.

I'd like to see what a 2050(RE11) and 2060(RE10) pipe does to the 121VR, I'll tell him to throw them on this week and we'll see what happens.


-Jake

megasaxon 08-16-2009 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by j8ight13 (Post 6211672)
Has anyone tried to run the 121VR with the Losi RE-10? I think im going to pick two of these guys up. The track I run is a short to medium size and from what Ive been hearing this mill is all about that. Anyone know where they stock the parts for it? Ive checked Horizon and them seem to be out of stock on pretty much everything.

Thanks

i would think they will hjave the parts in stock soon, but there are a few sellers on ebay that have parts in stock, search for "121vr" on ebay, should bring the parts up. Also the the Losi/Associated Parts House has some stuff in stock as well...

Jason Pelletier 08-16-2009 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by InfiniteMotors (Post 6211731)
SinistiR and I run at XRC in PA, which is definitely short to medium with one 75ft straight. I've watched the 121vr closely while marshalling and honestly it seems to be the best engine for this type of track short of an OS Speed or modded engine. I kept watching closely how it pulled the D8 out of a hairpin that leads directly into a double and came to that conclusion. He can start on throttle while still turning, then punch it just before he straightens out and clear the double with ease. Average engines with good mid to top end power have to swing this hairpin a bit wider in order to clear the double. For our smallish track, this mills punch can really get you around the track fast if used properly.

On the other hand, with the Associated 2035 pipe and stock clutch bell he's running out of steam 3/4 of the way down the straight. This is at a consistent 245-250 degrees. We think the 17t will fix this and honestly with all that bottom I doubt it will cause any problems.

I'd like to see what a 2050(RE11) and 2060(RE10) pipe does to the 121VR, I'll tell him to throw them on this week and we'll see what happens.


-Jake


Yea please update, tempted to keep the 2060 i have on ebay.

j8ight13 08-16-2009 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by InfiniteMotors (Post 6211731)
SinistiR and I run at XRC in PA, which is definitely short to medium with one 75ft straight. I've watched the 121vr closely while marshalling and honestly it seems to be the best engine for this type of track short of an OS Speed or modded engine. I kept watching closely how it pulled the D8 out of a hairpin that leads directly into a double and came to that conclusion. He can start on throttle while still turning, then punch it just before he straightens out and clear the double with ease. Average engines with good mid to top end power have to swing this hairpin a bit wider in order to clear the double. For our smallish track, this mills punch can really get you around the track fast if used properly.

On the other hand, with the Associated 2035 pipe and stock clutch bell he's running out of steam 3/4 of the way down the straight. This is at a consistent 245-250 degrees. We think the 17t will fix this and honestly with all that bottom I doubt it will cause any problems.

I'd like to see what a 2050(RE11) and 2060(RE10) pipe does to the 121VR, I'll tell him to throw them on this week and we'll see what happens.


-Jake

I was actually at that race. I was watching that D8 like a hawk. That thing puurrrred. Thats where I actually made up my mind for the engine. Yeah let me know what his take is on the losi pipes. I actually have both of those pipes. the re-10 is what im using right now on my truggy with my VZB and i wouldn't change it for anything.

megasaxon-thanks again! I forgot about that site, i'll check that out as well.

j8ight13 08-16-2009 06:50 PM

Sorry I may have missed it, but I could use OS p3 and p4s with this engine correct?

Shane Racer 08-16-2009 06:57 PM

P4 works a little better than the p3. I like the OD97T.

InfiniteMotors 08-16-2009 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by j8ight13 (Post 6212551)
I was actually at that race. I was watching that D8 like a hawk. That thing puurrrred. Thats where I actually made up my mind for the engine. Yeah let me know what his take is on the losi pipes. I actually have both of those pipes. the re-10 is what im using right now on my truggy with my VZB and i wouldn't change it for anything.

megasaxon-thanks again! I forgot about that site, i'll check that out as well.

Do you race at XRC? I usually run my MP9, might be switching to truggy soon.

I use exactly the same setup, VZB/RE10 in the MP9. Almost every recommendation I've seen for the VZB has been 2050/RE11 but XRC is my closest and favorite track, so the RE10 seemed like the better choice.

Chris Reilly 08-16-2009 08:18 PM

One of those losi pipes is just a Jammin copy not a OS copy. Straight from Adam Drake.:nod:

wfo 08-16-2009 08:54 PM

These changes helped...
 
I made some changes on the motor today at Revs in So. Cal.. I had been running a 6mm carb ,p3 plug and 13t c.b. and my motor ran at 240-250 Today Ran a 14t w/ a 97t plug ,TT 2035 ,sealed carb and back plate . It was night and day from my last outing and had more top end (the straight is 200 ft, insane.) cleared all jumps . The outside temp was 80-87 w/ some humidity and the motor temp at 220 and we timed it @ 8:58 w/ pretty hard driving.
Well now that it has kicked @ss on a large lay out I would have to say it is a motor that needs a little more pipe, clutch bell ,plug and restricter tuning than most motors i have ever ran. If you can find the right combo you'll be :nod:

j8ight13 08-16-2009 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by InfiniteMotors (Post 6212824)
Do you race at XRC? I usually run my MP9, might be switching to truggy soon.

I use exactly the same setup, VZB/RE10 in the MP9. Almost every recommendation I've seen for the VZB has been 2050/RE11 but XRC is my closest and favorite track, so the RE10 seemed like the better choice.

Well I was there Aug 7th and it was my first time at that track. Im always over at Hobby Hut. I loved that track though, awesome layout. Hobby Hut is the same way, a smaller layout. Actually i think it is even smaller than XRC. The RE-10 is really good for the price and performance IMO. I was running the all blue losi 8 2.0 buggy and truggy. I had graphics on my dish wheels if you remember seeing it. haha. I think im going to try and make the next race though. Do you recommend the Reedy 121vr? Ive been hooked on the VZBs since they came out. I just want to change it up. I'll be running it in both buggy and truggy. Ive had my eye on this thing for awhile now. Its just my VZBs seem to last me forever. Which is a good thing. :) Hope to see you at the track Jake!!

-John

wfo 08-16-2009 10:29 PM

Does anyone have the rear bearing size, is it a 14x25.4x6 ? Thanks...

porkchop 08-16-2009 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by wfo (Post 6213696)
Does anyone have the rear bearing size, is it a 14x25.4x6 ? Thanks...

14x25.0x6
call tko they should be in stock

McKie 08-16-2009 11:05 PM

what other sealants are good for sealing up the carb other than green slime. will any RTV sealant do the trick?

Colt4g63 08-16-2009 11:16 PM

You can use ThreeBond 1211. Its a liquid silicon that drys hard and is fuel proof. Takes longer to setup but works great and doesnt break down.

PTP Racing 08-17-2009 07:43 AM

I think Hobby Huts track is a little bigger than XRC but the straight is about the same just the Hobby Hut track goes a bit further back away from the drivers stand.

I had a great time at XRC this past weekend. My favorite part was no tire wear at all :nod:

wfo 08-17-2009 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by porkchop (Post 6213699)
14x25.0x6
call tko they should be in stock

Thanks, Porkchop...

Jason Pelletier 08-17-2009 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by PTP Racing (Post 6215151)
I think Hobby Huts track is a little bigger than XRC but the straight is about the same just the Hobby Hut track goes a bit further back away from the drivers stand.

I had a great time at XRC this past weekend. My favorite part was no tire wear at all :nod:

where is hobby hut ? PA ?

I like the sound of no tire wear.

j8ight13 08-18-2009 07:55 AM

I think he meant XRC has no tire wear.


XRC's track is 195' x 95'. Hubby hut is not that big at all. Not anymore at least. They are having a ROAR race on Aug. 23rd you guys should make it out. The new layout is going to be amazing.

j8ight13 08-18-2009 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by RB FIVE (Post 6218687)
where is hobby hut ? PA ?

I like the sound of no tire wear.

Hobby hut is in Audubon,PA off of trooper rd. The track is like a 1/2 mile up the street. They should have the new track finished by the end of this week. Then they start a new point series. They always have a good turn out.

PTP Racing 08-18-2009 10:16 AM

Yes I meant XRC did not wear my tires. I ran a set of soft City Blocks in 2 qualifiers and the 30 minute main with almost no sign of them being used at all.

InfiniteMotors 08-18-2009 12:19 PM

Tire wear was extra good this past weekend because the track just went through a pretty thorough service before the race. They also watered frequently this weekend. The track was very smooth.

Also I'm not sure we'll get to do the 2050/2060 test on the Reedy, his second one just broke. Silicone inside the crank delaminated or something to that effect? I haven't seen it yet.

Jason Pelletier 08-18-2009 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by InfiniteMotors (Post 6221928)
Tire wear was extra good this past weekend because the track just went through a pretty thorough service before the race. They also watered frequently this weekend. The track was very smooth.

Also I'm not sure we'll get to do the 2050/2060 test on the Reedy, his second one just broke. Silicone inside the crank delaminated or something to that effect? I haven't seen it yet.


I love hearing nightmares about the engine i just bought...:cry:

Bigedmond 08-18-2009 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by RB FIVE (Post 6222398)
I love hearing nightmares about the engine i just bought...:cry:

I love reading them too. I remember being told a couple years ago, NEVER use after run oil with drilled and filled cranks. It causes the epoxy to do what that guy is talking about.

I got my motor 300+ 2 weeks ago due to a ripped pressure line. The motor is still running strong, with average temps in the mid 250's

JoeyTheRocket 08-18-2009 03:23 PM

The more fuel I run through mine the stronger its getting also. Finally starting to learn the tune on this motor. You just have to take your time with the top end needle. I finished second in the Midwest Nitro series these weekend with using this Reedy motors in 3 of the 5 rounds! :nod:


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