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FITO 12-13-2007 05:50 AM

dremelboy
can nitro cleaner be use to clean the engines after use.
when you say the engines lasted 3 to 5 gallons is that changing the conrod every gallon or two,and changing the piston and sleeve or the engine its self before changing anything to it.how often should we change the conrod piston and sleeve.
in on track performance what does the xenon lack compraed to the xenon r, what do i lose
thanks

YLLIB 12-13-2007 02:04 PM

QUOTE DREMELBOY: but then again our R3 doesnt cost almost $500.00 street price. The goal is to provide engines to the masses at realistic prices that offer excellent performance, mileage, and parts availability.

DREMELBOY, then why is your R3 going at most shop priced at $359. when the old V12 was only $259.00 why the price increase?

Jamie Corrado 12-13-2007 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by YLLIB (Post 3969029)
QUOTE DREMELBOY: but then again our R3 doesnt cost almost $500.00 street price. The goal is to provide engines to the masses at realistic prices that offer excellent performance, mileage, and parts availability.

DREMELBOY, then why is your R3 going at most shop priced at $359. when the old V12 was only $259.00 why the price increase?


You are talking way before the euro started stomping our american dollar into the ground. We are doing our best to keep cost low, but some things are out of our hands. Plus we have only had a couple of price increases compared to many other manufacturers. We can only absorb it so long.

YLLIB 12-13-2007 03:15 PM

Jamie, I totally understand, I am just quoting what your sales rep is posting about pricing. The other engine companies are still cheeper than yours and they come from euro. Nova, Werks, Sirio, Ninja, JLR, REX, TOP, MAX and those prices are still lower than RB. I have run RB since RB started. .

dremelboy 12-13-2007 06:03 PM

hello YLLIB

here is just an example of what i was referring to


http://ashfordhobby.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=6

while this is just 1 example, look at the cost of the competitive race .12 engines.

robert at ashford has fantastic pricing and is very competitive with the market and i am not bashing him here by choosing his site for the prices, but i want you to see that .12 prices for good competitive engines is near $500.00 these days.

the issue with the EURO is one thats not going to change any time soon, the higher the EURO goes the higher the cost of the engines will go as well, we do our best to absorb as much as we can but at some point and time we need to pass some of the increased costs along.

hope that helps

regards

kevin @ RB USA

YLLIB 12-13-2007 07:01 PM

Here is a link I can show more that have them at this price or a little more.

http://www.speedworldraceway.com/Sto...ShowLarge=True


Where are my plugs dremelboy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dremelboy 12-13-2007 09:55 PM

you dork

i should of known it was you, wait till i see you on the track buddy, can you say FOOOOOORE :)

see ya soon dude

kevin

bsmooth 12-13-2007 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by YLLIB (Post 3969849)
Here is a link I can show more that have them at this price or a little more.

http://www.speedworldraceway.com/Sto...ShowLarge=True


Where are my plugs dremelboy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Beware of the "Bante Rooster"!!!:spidey:

C.Smith 12-13-2007 10:11 PM

Kevin , Hope things are well for you. and Happy Holidays, are you going to try to come down for a few race's next year? we do miss you being around.

Chris Smith

P.S. whom should I get in touch with to get RB product in bay area.?
or can I be a team driver :p:lol::sneaky:

RayJ 12-14-2007 02:04 AM

Euro vs Dollar
 
RB's have always been great engines. I've enjoyed running many of them!! Many distributors here in the USA are running into the price issue when dealing with the devaluation of our US dollar, and it's difficult for them to swallow the price increases(no fault of there own).

In the past year, the EURO has increased in value by almost 11%. That means here in the USA when we buy EURO related products they will cost 11% more. Nice of our gov't to devalue our currency.

In other words...........this year with the current value of the EURO....... a product from Europe that cost $400.00 a year ago.........will now cost $444.00. That's just a rough example.

Sorry.......didn't want to derail the RB thread.............but people need to know why prices have been effected.

CDS70 12-14-2007 02:04 AM


Originally Posted by dremelboy (Post 3967339)
hello CDS70

please dont get me wrong, both the C12 and the V12 engines are very good engines and will continue to be for many people, but as a manufacturer we need to offer our line thats competitive with our competitions engines.

the sales of the side exhaust C12 engines is almost zero, i can tell you that this year here in the USA we have sold very very few of these, but then again there really isnt a big class for use of these engines.

for the v12, it has been the workhorse .12 in our line up for a number of years now, but as with any engine, it was time for a facelift and so came the birth of the R3.

the numbers of C12's and V12's left in the inventory is still a good number but i think people should know that eventually the engines will be discontinued and phased out.

we have always tried to do our best to support any engine of ours that we have produced,so the replacement parts should be available for quite a while but the reality is that eventually you should pick up another motor if you are looking for motors to replace your older ones.

if you are in need of parts or the engines themselves, www.amainhobbies.com has always done a great job of stocking these and many of their replacement parts

hope that helps

regards

kevin @ RB USA



Hi Kevin,

thanks for your reply and related information, particularly about 'amainhobbies' however i would prefer to support the local importers/distributors that way I can be assure of their continued business and fantastic support they provide the racers in this country.

I may be wrong, but shouldn't you also be trying to persuade me to support the local guys?

dremelboy 12-14-2007 10:17 AM

hello CDS70

the reason i mention amain is because so many people seem to think there are no parts out there for alot of these engines, and thats quite the contrary.

since i am based here in the USA i try and recommend people to them because i know they have the parts in stock, even for the older engines.

i absolutly agree that you should support your local hobbyshops and countries importers but when you are on forums you cant always now where people are located, and my mentioning amain was because they have always agreed to carry the oddball stuff, even if its for older engine and it sits for along time.

there are tons of other shops here in the USA that probably carry the parts for these engines but none as active as AMAIN when it comes to making sure people know they have them or support a given line.

im not here to bash or slander any shops or importers, i do hope that you do continue to support your local hobbyshop and importer there

thanks again

kevin @ RB USA

dremelboy 12-14-2007 10:22 AM

whats happening C.Smith

long time no hear, good to see you are still on the scene and racing.

life has taken a bit of a turn for me working for the guys here at RB, its more about business and less about racing alot of times, although we do our best to be present at the big events. at the end of the day we need to make sure we are supporting and providing product to the shops that keep us in business, without them i have no job :) so hence the lack of being at more of the local races for the last year.

as for looking for RB stuff in the bay area, shoot me an email at our work addy, [email protected] and i will let you know where you can pick up stuff.

happy holidays to you and the family, talk to you soon

regards

kevin @ RB USA

royfan33 12-15-2007 11:52 PM

I bought a R3 that I used for the last race weekend of the season. It seems great, and still has a ways to go before it's fully run in. I chose it over the Nova +12 because I liked the bi-turbo crank design, and because of Rody's personal customer service on the RB site. Glad to see RB bring it up a notch in the USA:nod:

FITO 12-17-2007 01:22 PM

can nitro cleaner be use to clean the engines after use.
when you say the engines lasted 3 to 5 gallons is that changing the conrod every gallon or two,and changing the piston and sleeve or the engine its self before changing anything to it.how often should we change the conrod piston and sleeve.
in on track performance what does the xenon lack compraed to the xenon r, what do i lose
thanks


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