Does Ebis break in depreciate a new motor?
#16
Tech Master
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You have to be pretty incompetent to really ruin an engine these days. The way they’re manufactured these days, you’d have to be pretty dumb to screw it up. So the excuse that this method will save someone from screwing an engine up is BS. Most of the guys that do this don’t understand what is breaking in during the initial phases of an engines life anyway, it seems. I suppose racing does induce tunnel vision. Not much of a surprise there. People will do anything to win.
Don’t worry guys. I’m outta here.
Don’t worry guys. I’m outta here.
#17
You have to be pretty incompetent to really ruin an engine these days. The way they’re manufactured these days, you’d have to be pretty dumb to screw it up. So the excuse that this method will save someone from screwing an engine up is BS. Most of the guys that do this don’t understand what is breaking in during the initial phases of an engines life anyway, it seems. I suppose racing does induce tunnel vision. Not much of a surprise there. People will do anything to win.
Don’t worry guys. I’m outta here.
Don’t worry guys. I’m outta here.
#18
that’s not totally true, I personally hate breaking in an engine and knowing to a certain degree I’m not doing it right because in theory breaking an engine isn’t as easy as just running it in off others notes. You can really be sure that guys like Adam drake (and the people like tessemen who trust him) have spent a lot of time with a lot of testing techniques that build a report on what works. If Adam drake has invested this kind of time you know he’s not doing it with it in the back of his mind that it might not be doing anything, it’s absolutly doing something. My last engine I tried breaking in I did everything I could to be right, at half a gallon my 100$ front Swiss bearing wore out from how I broke it in. Now I have to find a decent cheap bearing replacement and send it to someone or beg someone at the track to do it for me for a price I’m sure. Personally I wouldn’t even double think it, if your confident then have one engine u do and one he does and keep a report of what seemed to be better. Like I’m said I’m sure these are the things Adam drake and many others have done with not only 1 engine but I could only imagine hundreds. I have to put more faith in those expertise and experience then I have in my last experience. But I’m not saying you couldn’t do a better job I’m just saying if u are not confident just send it in
#20
For a guy who needs help to replace a bearing I would not draw own conclusions of how it has happened. If the seal popped off then highly is was not mounted right.
#21
Tech Prophet
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heres my findings on front bearing failure .... running an engine grossly over rich on low speed needle will push excess oil through path of least resistance which is the front bearing when piston is sealed during combustion cycle . as oil seeps out upon a pressure pulse it will suck in on a vacuum pulse . front bearing failure ...... tuning is an art
ive heard of a few issues with people and front bearings falling apart after EBIS break in .... my guess .... the person performing break in is using an oil that deteriorates rubber and only further increases deterioration with heat .
i personally believe castor oil is the best for heated slave break in .......
my .02 cents
ive heard of a few issues with people and front bearings falling apart after EBIS break in .... my guess .... the person performing break in is using an oil that deteriorates rubber and only further increases deterioration with heat .
i personally believe castor oil is the best for heated slave break in .......
my .02 cents
#22
Tech Fanatic
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So everyone that touts this as being such a great thing as it saves time and fuel, yet it costs the same as a gallon of fuel. Not to mention any EBIS engine not sold through a factory authorized outlet will have a warranty. But I suppose you guys are above warranties.
Oh yeah - It’s all about trust... Yeah, okay.
Oh yeah - It’s all about trust... Yeah, okay.
I’m saying some random people on eBay or Facebook will say this motor has been broken in ebis or this motor only has 1 gallon on it. Etc. if you don’t know the person and are buying a engine used or claimed to be ebis broken in or this engine only has 4 tanks on the box etc. your trusting them that there telling the truth.
If you buy a engine from from rcrenew or drake new and have them break it in then I think this is added value.
#23
Tech Regular
I offer EBIS break in, and have broken in well over 100 engines. No complaints yet. HMU if you want more info. [email protected]
#24
I offer EBIS break in, and have broken in well over 100 engines. No complaints yet. HMU if you want more info. [email protected]
Just my 2 cents...
#25
Tech Adept
Ive definately ruined a few engines during run in by having the engine so rich it made the front bearing fail. But i have never had a problem with any engine i have had broken in on an EBIS machine so i can recommend EBIS.
#26
Tech Master
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heres my findings on front bearing failure .... running an engine grossly over rich on low speed needle will push excess oil through path of least resistance which is the front bearing when piston is sealed during combustion cycle . as oil seeps out upon a pressure pulse it will suck in on a vacuum pulse . front bearing failure ...... tuning is an art
ive heard of a few issues with people and front bearings falling apart after EBIS break in .... my guess .... the person performing break in is using an oil that deteriorates rubber and only further increases deterioration with heat .
i personally believe castor oil is the best for heated slave break in .......
my .02 cents
ive heard of a few issues with people and front bearings falling apart after EBIS break in .... my guess .... the person performing break in is using an oil that deteriorates rubber and only further increases deterioration with heat .
i personally believe castor oil is the best for heated slave break in .......
my .02 cents
#27
Tech Master
I have only broken in aprox 15 engiens now and have no printout and evryone is very very staiesfied with my work, guess i am a hack then..
#28
Anyone know where I can buy. EBIS machine?
#30
Tech Regular