InitialD

Thanks modellor and serpentracer1 I guess you learn something new everyday If I run out of crystals, I'll know where to get them from.

serpentracer1

I run different servo setups on my nitro stuff than I do on my electric M8 futaba-futaba reciever-airtronics crystals-JR8417 digital servo(speed and 150 oz of torq) for steering futaba 9302 I think ive got new cases on my futaba servos and I can mix the endplay and trims and subs in my radio so that thiers no digital glitch in the JR servo

markp27

Your're right, of course

I'm being punished with a heavy cold now I'll have to rebuild my car next week when I've recovered.
This weekend I'll go and watch the final round of the southern German 1/10th and 1/8th championship - should be good; it's at my local track, too!

InitialD

You know... the other thing is to keep us guys happy So don't forget to take those D1 pics when you're there enjoying

And for goodness sake, get Michael to autograph your car. Perhaps some of his magic will rub on ya

markp27

That's an idea!!!! Rob him of his power

But I don't think he'll be there - he'll be at the national championship for sure, but then I can't make it.

Don't worry, the D1 will be there at the weekend

InitialD

Just in

Final Results in the 200mm Pro class
1 Arnaud Chaussard Serpent 705 87 30:09.34
2 Steve Olanier MTX3 86 30:14.44
3 Jacky Mouton Serpent 705 86 30:17.46
4 Sébastien Wartelle Serpent 705 85 30:03.27
5 Vincent Heligoin Shumacher 85 30:05.54
6 Philippe Regolle MTX3 85 30:10.51
7 Marc Dell'Unto Vone 84 30:01.79
8 Vincent Hondekyn Vone/RR 84 30:12.64
9 Nicolas Bougnoteau MTX3 80 30:19.02
10 Jérôme Krowiski MTX3 58 24:12.88

http://www.mytsn.com/news/publ.asp?pid=8856

johan

D. Its just works better for me, more traction and more steering. Not a very technical explanation i guess With only the rear sway installed the car would oversteer and tend to spinn out

But Im afraid that the car rolls lateral a bit to much in the faster corners so i will trim down a rear swaybar to 1mm.

I have not yet ordered the new fc-blocks yet, thats the next trick i will try. But I, as a newbie, try to change only one parameter at the time...

InitialD

Yes, that is true. Sometimes I overdo it and end up not having to know what I did to change the car's characteristics The problem is there simply isn't much free time

modellor

Yep,

We are all guilty of that one. i did it just a few weekends ago and completely ruined my weekends running. Forgot what the original set up was too so I got really frustrated and just gave up.

Making one change at a time is definately a must regardless of whether you are a beginner or seasoned racer. Another good tip for you Johan is to write down everything you do. It will allow you to have different set ups marked out that work or dont work so you can change the car in a hurry if the weather changes dramatically (not uncommon in my part of the world. lol).

johan

What do you mean by "Airtronics dont make any radio equipment. They contract Futaba to make everything "?

Should i take as that the M8 is made by Futaba? Or applies it only to recievers and tx "moduls"?

Just trying to understand the industry

Arun

How much droop are you all running. I have been running 0 in the front and +8 in the rear.

PUNISHER

iTrader: (2)

I run -1 in front and +6~7 in the rear.

Car feels like on rails!!

PUNISHER

iTrader: (2)

Hey D!
Nice 4mm chassis there!!
Man, that chassis looks like a slade!

Yeah, I havnt weight the car since I put on the Serpent 4mm chassis. I'm guessing it will add 10~12grams.

InitialD

In my last outing, I was running 0 and +4 in the front and rear respectively. My usual setup is near stock like 0 front and 6 or 7 in the rear. This time, I needed the car to dive into the chicanes and coners off power. It turned out that that +4 rear was needed. The surprising thing was the car handled pretty well on moderate high speed sweepers and slow corners. The rear end did not swing out with a front one way. Braking was also superb and the car tracked straight when hard brakes were applied. Perhaps it could be the 808150 GTP floating body mount that I modified to take a TC car shell that made the rear end stable...

So the summary of my setup with the following below should yield a super oversteered car but it was nice to drive in the end.

small front tires
toe out +1
softer front compound than rear
a lot of rear droop +4

Perhaps this was a cumulative "problem" of running the front roll center too high with the smaller front tires and the front upper arm mod.

I must remember to take it one step at a time

InitialD

That's what you call a virgin chassis Not like yours

I don't think it's hit the road soon because at the moment I'm trying out other stuff and see if they work out first.