Tire choice for parkinglot racing?????
#166
Tech Initiate
You don't have to crash to break parts. Belts, bearings, connecting rods, Diff's, CVD's, gears.....
Sure crashing helps. Remember speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stops that do...
Sure crashing helps. Remember speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stops that do...
#168
Tech Elite
Originally posted by jordanc
Very true. If any of you guys ever drove a NEO you could attest to that. When i had one, in one race day it ate all three belts and broke bearings. Thats where the saying of the grenade car came from
Very true. If any of you guys ever drove a NEO you could attest to that. When i had one, in one race day it ate all three belts and broke bearings. Thats where the saying of the grenade car came from
#169
posted by dear HPI
You don't have to crash to break parts. Belts, bearings, connecting rods, Diff's, CVD's, gears.....
Sure crashing helps. Remember speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stops that do...
You don't have to crash to break parts. Belts, bearings, connecting rods, Diff's, CVD's, gears.....
Sure crashing helps. Remember speed doesn't kill. It's the sudden stops that do...
#170
Okay guys, I took the car out today. I got it to handle better. I figured out that I had no "Droop" in the rear cause I was using one of those spring spacers. All the car was doing was skipping acrossing the pavement. Now the backend stays down... It still kicks out but not as soon as it did before. Now it kicks out at about 1/2-3/4 throttle instead of 1/4 throttle. I 've got to take the spacers out of the front too...Now it's starting to plow... It's an improvement. I'll probably be getting a swaybar set and maybe new "Super Shocks" this week.
Rob
Rob
#171
if you get a swaybar set, you'll have to get rid of the excessive slop in it, otherwise, you'll see no true performance increase.
The super shocks don't do anything, but if you get them with threaded shock bodies, it makes preload adjustments less of a hassle and more minutely adjustable.
One other suggestion, if you don't have any other springs, get some new ones. You may have already heeded this piece of advice already.
The super shocks don't do anything, but if you get them with threaded shock bodies, it makes preload adjustments less of a hassle and more minutely adjustable.
One other suggestion, if you don't have any other springs, get some new ones. You may have already heeded this piece of advice already.
#172
posted by firearm
It still kicks out but not as soon as it did before. Now it kicks out at about 1/2-3/4 throttle instead of 1/4 throttle
It still kicks out but not as soon as it did before. Now it kicks out at about 1/2-3/4 throttle instead of 1/4 throttle
#173
Tech Elite
Fiream
Get that ride height down to about 5mm front and back. I think the car has about 8-10mm stock.
Try HPI Yellow #6834 in the rear & HPI Red #6835 in the front for starts.
Don't worry about droop for now, we'll work on that later.
Try HPI Yellow #6834 in the rear & HPI Red #6835 in the front for starts.
Don't worry about droop for now, we'll work on that later.
#174
Tech Initiate
Agreeing with pops racer
Fiream, If you do one thing get the springs for $10 bucks. This will settle the car down, and get you closer to proper ride height. The only time to use swaybars is if you are going to run light oil in the shocks and light springs. Swaybars only propose is to stop the weight in your car from shifting side to side, Which will happen if you run light oil. 25wt or less.
PS: the kit uses 30wt.
PS: the kit uses 30wt.
#175
Tech Elite
Shock oil & swaybars
HPI swaybars are just about useless as installed. There is just too much slop at the Arms to be effective.
Shock oil starting points;
45 wt front
40 wt Rear.
With #3 pistons all around.
Shock oil starting points;
45 wt front
40 wt Rear.
With #3 pistons all around.
#176
The stock swaybars are as me and pops have been saying, are useless until you get rid of the slop. I saw a super nitro with a ride height of about 10 inches and it only kind of activated the swaybars. It doesn't matter what the weight of the shock oil is, it just depends on the amount play in the swaybar system.
The places that cause the play in the swaybar are the mounts in the arm and the swaybar mounts themselves. you have to use ca to fix this up.
The best way to skip all of these problems would be to purchase the swaybar sets available from other companies such as Megatch. It is a blade type so you don't need to change the bar to change the swaybar's resistance. It costs 18 dollars per side, but it is worth it compared to HPI's set. Since all of Megatech's stuff is GPM, you could probably get one from GPM as well.
Do you run in a low traction area? I usually use greens or blacks up front and reds or in the rear (depending on tire choice, track temp and maybe use yellows in back depending on how I'm driving that day ), with 50wt and 45 wt. in the shocks.
The places that cause the play in the swaybar are the mounts in the arm and the swaybar mounts themselves. you have to use ca to fix this up.
The best way to skip all of these problems would be to purchase the swaybar sets available from other companies such as Megatch. It is a blade type so you don't need to change the bar to change the swaybar's resistance. It costs 18 dollars per side, but it is worth it compared to HPI's set. Since all of Megatech's stuff is GPM, you could probably get one from GPM as well.
posted by popsracer
Try HPI Yellow #6834 in the rear & HPI Red #6835 in the front for starts.
Try HPI Yellow #6834 in the rear & HPI Red #6835 in the front for starts.
#177
Hey,
I ran the car again lastnight and it look like i have to pull the shock spacers out of the front too.... I found that pulling the rear ones out the car will now pick up the in most wheel as it's turning either left or right, and it's starting to hop on the outer wheel. I was thinking if I where to ajust chamber in the tires I would beable to use this to my advantage. Could I do this???
Rob
I ran the car again lastnight and it look like i have to pull the shock spacers out of the front too.... I found that pulling the rear ones out the car will now pick up the in most wheel as it's turning either left or right, and it's starting to hop on the outer wheel. I was thinking if I where to ajust chamber in the tires I would beable to use this to my advantage. Could I do this???
Rob
#178
Tech Elite
This and that
Fiream;
Use the "Spring" clips to adjust your ride height. You want about 5mm all around to start with.
The "Stiffer" the shock oil, the MORE responsive the car will feel in the corners. Just keep the front and back within 5wt of each other. You should be Ok with 40-60 wt in the front and 5 wt less in the back, depending on how much overall traction there is.
Im2Lazy;
Does GPM have a Blade type swaybar for the HPI that will fit on the front? I'd like a better FSB for my Super.
I run a similar shock set-up in both of my HPI cars under similar conditions.
Fiream;
Remember, in order of importance: Tires 1st, set-up 2nd.
Use the "Spring" clips to adjust your ride height. You want about 5mm all around to start with.
The "Stiffer" the shock oil, the MORE responsive the car will feel in the corners. Just keep the front and back within 5wt of each other. You should be Ok with 40-60 wt in the front and 5 wt less in the back, depending on how much overall traction there is.
Im2Lazy;
Does GPM have a Blade type swaybar for the HPI that will fit on the front? I'd like a better FSB for my Super.
I run a similar shock set-up in both of my HPI cars under similar conditions.
Fiream;
Remember, in order of importance: Tires 1st, set-up 2nd.
#180
Tech Elite
Tires for next weekend
I'll be racing my Reflex next weekend on a smooth (sealed) asphalt parking lot track. I usually run Sorex 36R's but with the cooler weather here I am going to try some 32R's
and some Take-Off's 27CS premounteds during practice. I will post and let everyone know how each set worked and the track conditions for that day.
Fiream;
The car is UNbalanced; work on the ride height, change the springs and the shock oil. THEN we will work on the other stuff.
Camber: .0 to .5 neg in front,
.5 to 1.0 neg in the rear.
Zero toe in the front.
and some Take-Off's 27CS premounteds during practice. I will post and let everyone know how each set worked and the track conditions for that day.
Fiream;
The car is UNbalanced; work on the ride height, change the springs and the shock oil. THEN we will work on the other stuff.
Camber: .0 to .5 neg in front,
.5 to 1.0 neg in the rear.
Zero toe in the front.