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Old 07-27-2006, 06:36 PM
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I just want the car to be faster on curves and have more steering on-throttle. I have done some things to get more steering i.e. 198mm on front, 199mm rear. 2mm front upper arm spacers, and 2mm rear upper right. I want to know, which other places can I change so the car steers without going into oversteer. I think I need more entering steering...
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Originally Posted by Riketsu
I just want the car to be faster on curves and have more steering on-throttle. I have done some things to get more steering i.e. 198mm on front, 199mm rear. 2mm front upper arm spacers, and 2mm rear upper right. I want to know, which other places can I change so the car steers without going into oversteer. I think I need more entering steering...
Good question, I'm still trying to get the same reaction out of my car!!
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:23 PM
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well you can try diff tires 40 is good up here,the rear diff what oil is in it i run from 25 to 50 on short track and a oneway front but on a big track i like a spool and 100000 in the rear,shock angle plays a roll to theres so much to try but id start with tires
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Originally Posted by wallyedmonds
well you can try diff tires 40 is good up here,the rear diff what oil is in it i run from 25 to 50 on short track and a oneway front but on a big track i like a spool and 100000 in the rear,shock angle plays a roll to theres so much to try but id start with tires
Im also running 40s all around. You say you use 100,000 on the rear differential? Sure you dont mean 10,000? I have been dying to try out spool on my car.

With a spool, how should my driving style be? What am I going to get out of running the spool?
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:42 PM
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when you come out of a corner and give gas you exit faster,but going in a corner you may have to break a little, and it feels more stable. i got the cheep 3racing oneway that you can pin and it works ok,and yes 100.000 in the rear
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Originally Posted by wallyedmonds
when you come out of a corner and give gas you exit faster,but going in a corner you may have to break a little, and it feels more stable. i got the cheep 3racing oneway that you can pin and it works ok,and yes 100.000 in the rear
I might just get the 3racing oneway... I bought my MTX-4 used and I didnt get the original one-way, plus i think its less weight (less rotating mass) if i use the one-way tube with the pins. Might try the 100k in the rear diff + spool upfront. Theres only one mugen driver that is running spool over here and he runs it with 10k rear diff...
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:13 PM
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purple springs
400~500 shock oil.......

kawahara front upper arm bracket with the arm mounted at the longer configuration..........

spool and 30~50k is more than enough.......

200mm rear width
199mm front width
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Originally Posted by Riketsu
I just want the car to be faster on curves and have more steering on-throttle. I have done some things to get more steering i.e. 198mm on front, 199mm rear. 2mm front upper arm spacers, and 2mm rear upper right. I want to know, which other places can I change so the car steers without going into oversteer. I think I need more entering steering...
Rear shock position is one more vertical than front.

Decrease front downstop : lets say 0 Front, 4 Rear ?
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Old 07-28-2006, 01:30 AM
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springs: purple
shock oil: Tamiya soft yellow
damper position front: first hole
damper position rear: second hole
downstop front: 0.5
downstop rear: 3-4
camber angle front: 1.5
camber angle rear: 3
toe angle front: 0.5
toe angle rear: 2.5
steering ackermann: A
anti-roll-bar rear: 2.1
anti-roll-bar front: 45
rear-diff-oil: 20.000
rear width: 200mm
front width: 199mm
lower-arm-position: standard (lowest position)
upper-arm-position: 1mm
upright spacer: 1mm

This is my standard-setup. Normaly I only changed damper positions and switch between one-way and rigid. With this setup I have everytime good traction and fast curve speed.
Only on very flat tracks, i switch to the blue springs.

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Old 07-28-2006, 05:33 AM
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the drop i run with a kanack chassis is 6mm rear and 2mm front,and on a big track you need 100,000 with a spool if you dont i fined it makes the car silly,shock positon 4 down on the rear and mid at front,450 oil,1.1x3 piston in the front stock in rear kawahara sways,light blue springs tho you may try gray in the rear,front upper 3mm,rear upper inside high outer 1mm,track 200 rear 199front, if you just run a oneway 25 to 30,000 oil in the diff if you run 2 diffs 10,to 20 in the rear and 20 to 30,000 in the front.but play around to fined whats right for you and the track you run at. camber front 2 rear 3 toe front 1 out rear 1.5 in you dont wont to much toe in in the rear cuz this will slow you down.steering ack i like B again its what feels right for you and how you drive, B gives more steering.rear lower arm i like mid and at times high this again makes the car steer better and makes the car more stable,the lowest makes the car not roll enuff and you lose grip.

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Originally Posted by wallyedmonds
I found this has little effect, you do this because of tire wear,it dos help somwhat but not realy
From what I have noticed, the closer you get to 3mm split, the more off power steering you have.
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Originally Posted by GrandeGixxer
From what I have noticed, the closer you get to 3mm split, the more off power steering you have.
but do you get more on power steering aswell??
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Originally Posted by Riketsu
I just want the car to be faster on curves and have more steering on-throttle. I have done some things to get more steering i.e. 198mm on front, 199mm rear. 2mm front upper arm spacers, and 2mm rear upper right. I want to know, which other places can I change so the car steers without going into oversteer. I think I need more entering steering...
If you want more steering entering a corner try the outside hole on your front shock tower.

To help on power steering try less front droop exp. if you are using 1 on the droop gauge, go to 3. This will not allow the car to transer weight to the rear it helps when I am looking for on power steering.
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Thanks for all your suggestions, Im actually writing everything down . I only saw car setup as if I wanted more steering, I needed stiffer rear and softer front and if I needed more traction, I needed stiffer front and softer rear. Is that assumption correct or not?
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Originally Posted by Riketsu
Thanks for all your suggestions, Im actually writing everything down . I only saw car setup as if I wanted more steering, I needed stiffer rear and softer front and if I needed more traction, I needed stiffer front and softer rear. Is that assumption correct or not?
Yes.

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