52LikesEuropean 2wd 1/8th pan car on-road Classic class
10-29-2009, 07:45 PM
#91
10-29-2009, 07:56 PM
#92
10-30-2009, 03:58 AM
#94
Good luck with that...my opinion will be my opinion in person or not.
I would be happy to explain it to you in person.
I race in the northeast my full name is Jamie Gonzalez been in the hobby for a long time and I think I been around long enough to spot a fad.
Again happy to explain it to you in person.
Perfect example we had a hard core offroad guy buy a used 1/8, guy can drive and drove well, however I could see his head start to spin when going thru importance of clutch maintenance,2speed shifting point, rollout, tire stagger.
For a beginner class to work got to be simple and handle ok. 2wd pan car seems like a good fit as car have no suspension other than chassis flex, as other noted offroad style clutch,no twospeed and one simple diff.
Trick is getting enough local racers or tracks to invest in the class and support it with perhaps a point series.
Doing this with any "new class" is a challenge. We tried it with the GT car did not work...maybe it will work with 2wd pan cars.
This was Djmachinist "POINT"
"I would love to see a simple 1/8 spec class with spec engines developed in the US. We seem to shoot ourselves in the foot every time we try to start
a spec class in this country. It usaually starts out as a low cost spec class
with inexpensive engines then morphs into a high cost highly competive."
I was agreeing with his "POINT" and using GT car in the area as an example.
I would be happy to explain it to you in person.
I race in the northeast my full name is Jamie Gonzalez been in the hobby for a long time and I think I been around long enough to spot a fad.
Again happy to explain it to you in person.
Perfect example we had a hard core offroad guy buy a used 1/8, guy can drive and drove well, however I could see his head start to spin when going thru importance of clutch maintenance,2speed shifting point, rollout, tire stagger.
For a beginner class to work got to be simple and handle ok. 2wd pan car seems like a good fit as car have no suspension other than chassis flex, as other noted offroad style clutch,no twospeed and one simple diff.
Trick is getting enough local racers or tracks to invest in the class and support it with perhaps a point series.
Doing this with any "new class" is a challenge. We tried it with the GT car did not work...maybe it will work with 2wd pan cars.
This was Djmachinist "POINT"
"I would love to see a simple 1/8 spec class with spec engines developed in the US. We seem to shoot ourselves in the foot every time we try to start
a spec class in this country. It usaually starts out as a low cost spec class
with inexpensive engines then morphs into a high cost highly competive."
I was agreeing with his "POINT" and using GT car in the area as an example.
Last edited by J.Gonzalez; 10-30-2009 at 04:12 AM.
10-30-2009, 04:09 AM
#95
The BRX4 Red Ball is the best looking R/C car chassis I have ever seen http://rcretro.comhas a page with pictures of the classic chassis popular in Europe and links to thier websites
really nice looking!
Dale
Last edited by djmachinist; 10-30-2009 at 09:24 PM.
10-30-2009, 04:37 AM
#98
from Garen can be had for $200.00 or so less. The cost for DFX for the Vortex (with diffuser) is about 450 euros or $670.00. I do not know what the Vortex Primo (without diffuser) verson cost, shoul be a little cheaper.
The motonica P8C is the second version Motonica has produced. The older car
looks like the DXF car. same type front end and rear end. The new P8C also can be converted to the Motonica P8F which is the soon to be released 4wd version of this car. They are also going to sell a P8F conversion kit to retrofit the 2wd version. Their idea here is to offer a entry level 4WD car that would be stronger and easier to set up than full blown 4WD car.
Dale
10-30-2009, 04:43 AM
#99
people.
Dale
10-30-2009, 05:00 AM
#101
Dale
Last edited by djmachinist; 10-30-2009 at 09:28 PM.
10-30-2009, 06:32 AM
#102
Here you Go Dale & Juan...
As promissed, here's a few from the shop and a couple of Brand new ones.
Couldn't forget a stack of Elfins, Nissan and the Greenwood Corvette.
In the last picture you'll see a portion of a Formula 1 body as you mentioned
in your post earlier. 1/8 Scale Open Wheel Cars can Launch pretty high when
they brush up against each other...
Take care!
Terry
As promissed, here's a few from the shop and a couple of Brand new ones.
Couldn't forget a stack of Elfins, Nissan and the Greenwood Corvette.
In the last picture you'll see a portion of a Formula 1 body as you mentioned
in your post earlier. 1/8 Scale Open Wheel Cars can Launch pretty high when
they brush up against each other...
Take care!
Terry
In the mist of the warring that was going on, I completely missed this posting, wow!! neat vintage, two brand new Associated RC-300BDs and
2 Brand new K&B 21s. Cool Stuff!!!
Dale
10-30-2009, 06:56 AM
#103
Here you Go Dale & Juan...
As promissed, here's a few from the shop and a couple of Brand new ones.
Couldn't forget a stack of Elfins, Nissan and the Greenwood Corvette.
In the last picture you'll see a portion of a Formula 1 body as you mentioned
in your post earlier. 1/8 Scale Open Wheel Cars can Launch pretty high when
they brush up against each other...
Take care!
Terry
As promissed, here's a few from the shop and a couple of Brand new ones.
Couldn't forget a stack of Elfins, Nissan and the Greenwood Corvette.
In the last picture you'll see a portion of a Formula 1 body as you mentioned
in your post earlier. 1/8 Scale Open Wheel Cars can Launch pretty high when
they brush up against each other...
Take care!
Terry
10-30-2009, 08:50 AM
#104
Keeping it in check ?
O.K. let's say this class does catch on ( which I REALLY hope it does ) Let's hear some suggestions on not "shooting ourselves in the foot" again and allowing it to morph into something undisireable.
10-30-2009, 09:03 AM
#105
Unfortunately, you, I, and the rest of us know that it will eventually morph due to the tendencies of many racers that have deeper pockets than many of their fellow racers and can afford the hottest engines, gobs of bling, or can have custom-made parts manufactured for their car (via a friend with a CNC machine). It really boils down to developing rules for the class and sticking with them in the beginning and making ammendments as time and/or the situation progresses or allowing racers to totally disregard the established rules and run off the racers that abide by the rules. All classes from electric 1/12th scale to gas 1/5th scale suffers from this same dilema no matter where you race.