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InitialD 04-29-2004 04:04 AM

Re: Re: Rebuild of shocks
 

Originally posted by Sow&Steady
Of course its not usual but are you using the losi shock tool to determine that it IS "softer" than the others?
I notice that when you do the shocks by putting the shock bladder on the shock body that is already filled with shock oil as per the manual, you'll get the same amount of rebound. Pretty spot on.


Originally posted by Sow&Steady
Master D ... yours to answer!
:lol:

But seriously, I'll repeat. Just get a new set of balls and the plates (8378). Get the Mugen Super Grease (B0308) and grease the balls sparingly. Just a layer of grease coating on the balls will do. Just install them according to what Julius has described in his mytsn article and you're good to go ! :nod:

The ball diffs will remain super smooth all the time.:nod: Promise.:D :lol:

InitialD 04-29-2004 04:05 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Radio
 

Originally posted by Sow&Steady
Whaaaat?!? Its 7pm where you are man!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

BaxterC 04-29-2004 04:25 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Radio
 

Originally posted by InitialD
:lol: :lol: :lol:
You bugger you...:) well, I suppose... If you can, why not, personally, I would run my 710 if I had it and would only sleep at night, but that's me...

My rccar order will ship tomorrow... Eventually.

Rebal 04-29-2004 04:53 AM

710 CVD,s ????
 
Does anyone make CVD,s for the 710.I,ve looked around and found none. This seems like a basic hop up item that everyone and their mother has. It a great car that I enjoy much.But it bugs me that a minor hit to the wall and the dog bone pops out. I,ve tried running Impact dog bones because they are just a bit longer and it helped maybe a little. Why would there not be dog bones? What do the Pros do besides not hit anything???

BaxterC 04-29-2004 04:59 AM

Re: 710 CVD,s ????
 

Originally posted by Rebal
Does anyone make CVD,s for the 710.I,ve looked around and found none. This seems like a basic hop up item that everyone and their mother has. It a great car that I enjoy much.But it bugs me that a minor hit to the wall and the dog bone pops out. I,ve tried running Impact dog bones because they are just a bit longer and it helped maybe a little. Why would there not be dog bones? What do the Pros do besides not hit anything???
There is a very long and involved explanation as to why serpent did not make any... But think of it this way, the perfect car does not need hop-ups.

Serpent have got HUDY spring steel dogbones and the PRO's use these, as well as HUDY spring steel drive 'cups'. What you can do is put a cable tie around the bone and the suspention arm above it, but make it loose enough to not bind, this stops the bones from flying an all directions.

markp27 04-29-2004 05:05 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: hi guys
 

Originally posted by InitialD
That's passe ! :lol:
D, passe is now passe :lol: :lol:

markp27 04-29-2004 05:07 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tweak Station & Scale
 

Originally posted by InitialD
Oophs... :rolleyes: Well, I was still ignorant then ! :D :cry:



The lifting method would also be truer if you check tweak in the rear when you suspend the front chassis with a fixed block.

It will be "truer" in the sense that the front suspension will not affect the rear suspension and thus screwing it up. What may seem to be incorrect tweak in the rear will be made correct because of the front suspension.

Hasn't Dark Lord Julius not mention this to you already?:sneaky: :deathstar

AHA :D

Probably Dark Lord Julius has mentioned it, but my brain is fried from all the mobile frequencies here at work :cry: :lol:

markp27 04-29-2004 05:09 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Radio
 

Originally posted by InitialD
:lol: :cry: :lol: :cry: :lol: :cry:



Riding to work in the cold is torture and you say it's fine? :confused: What's wrong with you? What are you made of?:lol:

Best northern english ice :lol: Never feel a thing from the cold :nod: Getting too warm on a morning now, though. It was 13 degrees C this morning - almost sucummed to heat exhaustion!!! :eek:

markp27 04-29-2004 05:10 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Radio
 

Originally posted by InitialD
That's sic ! :lol:



Hey, you should design one up for the controller... A Tx come mobile phone come digicam would be excellent ! :nod: :lol:

Instead of having a Nokia or an Ericsson, imagine having Futaba, KO or Sanwa mobile phones !:nod: :lol:

Why do you think I'm working so hard :sneaky: :lol: :lol:

InitialD 04-29-2004 05:18 AM

Re: 710 CVD,s ????
 

Originally posted by Rebal
Does anyone make CVD,s for the 710.I,ve looked around and found none.
3 Racing makes them. But as KevinS pointed out, they may not be the realy CVD. Just a dogbone with a pin. Don't know about their reliablity though and they can be suspect.

http://www.3racing.com.hk/3racing/Im...0/SE710008.jpg

This seems like a basic hop up item that everyone and their mother has. It a great car that I enjoy much.But it bugs me that a minor hit to the wall and the dog bone pops out.

Dogbones are more rugged. If you hit and rub the walls with a CVD, it'll be a more costly replacement and you need to replace it when it gets bent. Dogbones will just pop out or get loss. To a certain extent, you can still use your slightly bent dogbone.



Originally posted by Rebal
I,ve tried running Impact dog bones because they are just a bit longer and it helped maybe a little. Why would there not be dog bones? What do the Pros do besides not hit anything???
Impact dogbones (front) will fit the 710 in the rear and front nicely. While they are much stronger, they are 1 mm shorter than the stock 710 dogbones. Not longer.

Some tips to ensure that the dogbones come out less...

1. Keep steering to a minimum and as much as you need only.

2. Use a smaller front trackwidth. Less than 200 mm. Especially required if you're using the front ball diff. Somehow, dogbones come out more often using the front ball diffs than with the stock oneway. I think it has got to do with the shorter drive cups that come with the front ball diff... Make sure upon suspension compression, the front suspension does not bind due to the narrower front trackwidth.

3. Use a very small piece of fuel tubing in the drive cups nearer to the oneway or ball diff to space the dogbone out to the wheel adaptors. Again, make sure upon suspension compression, the front suspension does not bind due to the narrower front trackwidth. I have not tried this but a good friend of mine mentioned that you could use the concave washer like the one found in the ball diff to space out the front dogbones. Have not tried that yet.

InitialD 04-29-2004 05:23 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Radio
 

Originally posted by markp27
Why do you think I'm working so hard :sneaky: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :sneaky:

InitialD 04-29-2004 05:23 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: hi guys
 

Originally posted by markp27
D, passe is now passe :lol: :lol:
:lol: :cry:

InitialD 04-29-2004 05:24 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Radio
 

Originally posted by markp27
It was 13 degrees C this morning - almost sucummed to heat exhaustion!!! :eek:
You should cycle over here.:nod: 30 to 35 degree C with high humidity ! :nod: :lol:

InitialD 04-29-2004 05:25 AM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Tweak Station & Scale
 

Originally posted by markp27
Probably Dark Lord Julius has mentioned it, but my brain is fried from all the mobile frequencies here at work :cry: :lol:
:lol:

Don't you have those helmet like the one Magneto wears in X-Men on his head?:lol:

Rebal 04-29-2004 05:25 AM

cvd,s
 
Your right about then dogbone lengths.I said it backwards,I use the 710,s in my Impact DU!!!!! For the same reason. I,ve worked with narrowing track widths and personally use the brass washer from glow plus to space out the outdrive on my one way. Good tip on why they are better though and I kinda figured that was it as far as dog bones not bending as easy as cvd,s Thanks I,ll ck to see if and can do anymore spacing I just wanted to be sure to not go to far. Thanks again!!!


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