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Sow&Steady 05-27-2005 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by PUNISHER
Serpent USA is the distributor for 3Racing in the US........... so, that means they are 3Racing universals. In other words Serpent USA is now selling 3Racing products. :o :cool:


What? :eek:

I hope you're wrong. A company in US, whether it calls itself Serpent USA or Moogen USA, can distribute anything they want, in their own packaging. Only Serpent BV can take any parts they want and package them into the official packaging or make decisions as to what parts are official Serpent parts. At least, this is the "normal" business conduct unless Serpent BV and Serpent USA has an iron-clad agreement that they are each independent in doing whatever they like!

If Serpent BV takes 3-racing's universals and pakage them in plastic bags with the new orange Serpent tags then I guess you are right but this is not what I've heard. The universals may look like 3Racing ones but I'm told they're made for Serpent by someone else, better quality etc etc.

Sow&Steady 05-27-2005 12:38 AM


Originally Posted by Rene C.
The Serpent universals are nor the same than the universals from 3Racing.
You guys are right, they look nearly the same, but they are not.
That, just to clarify before a big rumour gets started.

See you guy’s
Rene

Ah! Doctor Rene was much quicker than me!

InitialD 05-27-2005 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by Sow&Steady
Ah! Doctor Rene was much quicker than me!

Dr. Rene is not quicker... You're just too Slow&Steady. :nod: :lol:

ntc3freak 05-27-2005 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by InitialD
Dr. Rene is not quicker... You're just too Slow&Steady. :nod: :lol:




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

GMartinez 05-27-2005 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by PUNISHER
Serpent USA is the distributor for 3Racing in the US........... so, that means they are 3Racing universals. In other words Serpent USA is now selling 3Racing products. :o :cool:

I Believe so as for the universals I will get confirmation when I speak to one of the team drivers. When the car first came out 3racing was the only company to offer universals. I received confirmation from serpent like three months ago that Serpent USA is now carrying 3racing products. For those that have seen the spring steel axle carriers for the 950R it is mabe by Hudy exclusive technology Can't wait for them to be available for the 710 it smooth's out onpower steering like the XRAY cars.

InitialD 05-27-2005 04:48 AM


Originally Posted by 710baby
I Believe so as for the universals I will get confirmation when I speak to one of the team drivers.

What more proof do you want when the chief designer for the Serpent 710 himself has spoken and confirmed on this very forum a few hours ago that they are of Serpent design and not from 3Racing? :confused:


Originally Posted by 710baby
When the car first came out 3racing was the only company to offer universals.

That is a fact. :nod:


Originally Posted by 710baby
I received confirmation from serpent like three months ago that Serpent USA is now carrying 3racing products.

And that's already yesterday's news... There are also pics to proof that Serpent USA distributes 3Racing products. :lol:

Julius 05-27-2005 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by InitialD
Yes, it was discussed just recently. I think there was no correct answer. Like Justrace, I install mine the same as his. I find that the brakes will not grab so suddenly and giving rear wheel lock and gives a more linear braking.

But then looking at how AMG Mercedes install on their real 1:1 cars, it's the other way around ! Perhaps they want better braking and they can afford the stability as they don't run oneway front ! :lol: So there is no real answer. Just test and see which side you prefer. :blush:

Ah, yes the picture of the Merc....
Did you see the pic of the wheel on the other side???? Indeed other way round installed it was :nod:

InitialD 05-27-2005 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by Julius
Indeed other way round installed it was :nod:

:eek: Master Yoda? :deathstar :deathstar :deathstar

So, do you mean to say that it does not matter the direction of the disc?

JustRace 05-27-2005 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Julius
Ah, yes the picture of the Merc....
Did you see the pic of the wheel on the other side???? Indeed other way round installed it was :nod:

So Master Yoda...are you saying matter it does not?

Pyramid 05-27-2005 07:55 AM

If you guys keep asking/wondering.. I think the next batch will come in straight holes pattern :lol:

markp27 05-27-2005 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Julius
Ah, yes the picture of the Merc....
Did you see the pic of the wheel on the other side???? Indeed other way round installed it was :nod:

You know, I'm getting the distinct feeling that D and myself wasted our times looking for the Ring in far off lands......seems someone else has had the Ring the whole time :eek: :cry:

ntc3freak 05-27-2005 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by markp27
You know, I'm getting the distinct feeling that D and myself wasted our times looking for the Ring in far off lands......seems someone else has had the Ring the whole time :eek: :cry:




:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

redsand 05-27-2005 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Rene C.
The Serpent universals are nor the same than the universals from 3Racing.
You guys are right, they look nearly the same, but they are not.
That, just to clarify before a big rumour gets started.

See you guy’s
Rene


Very glad to hear the truth !
Thanks Rene.

RMeira 05-28-2005 09:34 AM

But are the 3Racing universal one's good parts ???

buboy28 05-28-2005 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by RMeira
But are the 3Racing universal one's good parts ???

personally speaking NO i've used 3-racing universals with my RR-Evo and my FW-05 and they bend easily better wait for the original Serpent ones :nod: guys if the serpent universals are already available what is the part number please,thanks :)

dg8one 05-29-2005 03:59 AM

hi
i have two motors for sale x12 5 port mod by dennis richey and ns3A1
$300 plus shipping

thanks

dg8one 05-29-2005 04:01 AM

soory thats RB X12 mod by DENNIS RICHEY

Pyramid 05-29-2005 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by buboy28
guys if the serpent universals are already available what is the part number please,thanks :)

http://www.mytsn.com/products/desc.asp?prid=3405

redsand 05-29-2005 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by RMeira
But are the 3Racing universal one's good parts ???


Dont waste your money on such crappy junk products. Get the original Serpent parts.

Qlone 05-30-2005 12:14 AM

Not all third party products are bad.
The CVD's may not be as good as the serpent ones, but the 3racing carbon/graphite parts are easily as good as the original parts. I broke my radio plate (don't ask) and replaced it with a cheaper 3racing part. It fits perfectly, and in fact looks a little bit better than serpent's part.

buboy28 05-30-2005 12:35 AM


thank you very much Pyramid

B4 05-30-2005 05:13 AM

Hi Everyone,

Finally got a chance to run with the 21T option pulley and the car was absolutely dialed. I also achieved excellent wear rates using 40sh front and 37sh rear. One other thing I changed was using the front ball diff, so far I have broken two friction rings because I did it up to tight (Rene please design a aluminium part). To counter this problem I had the 3racing friction collar that i tried on the rear diff and didn't like it because I found it didn't improve the car. So i put it on the front and used the dremel to make it the same size as the diff pulley (required only if using the optional servo saver).

I don't see me changing back to the oneway as I had no perceptable loss of off power steering and gained improved and consistent braking. I should also mention I'm using the race brake pad set and vented brake disc.

_cyclops_ 05-30-2005 05:55 AM


Originally Posted by B4
Hi Everyone,
(Rene please design a aluminium part)


I saw Richard Keur (dutch driver) drive with a allow clamp, micht be 3racing but i don't know.. he is a serpent team racer, so i gues it's comming....

Rene C. 05-30-2005 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by B4
Hi Everyone,

Finally got a chance to run with the 21T option pulley and the car was absolutely dialed. I also achieved excellent wear rates using 40sh front and 37sh rear. One other thing I changed was using the front ball diff, so far I have broken two friction rings because I did it up to tight (Rene please design a aluminium part). To counter this problem I had the 3racing friction collar that i tried on the rear diff and didn't like it because I found it didn't improve the car. So i put it on the front and used the dremel to make it the same size as the diff pulley (required only if using the optional servo saver).

I don't see me changing back to the oneway as I had no perceptable loss of off power steering and gained improved and consistent braking. I should also mention I'm using the race brake pad set and vented brake disc.

Ok, we will make an aluminium clamp ring. :nod:
To be honest, it is already done. I used it a long time, to find out the right material, also Kolff and Keur used it. Both where happy with the result.
You wish it, we do it. :)

Rene

markp27 05-30-2005 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Rene C.
Ok, we will make an aluminium clamp ring. :nod:

:eek: Its the one true ring!!! :eek: :lol: :lol:

lagnaf 05-30-2005 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Rene C.
You wish it, we do it. :)

Rene

Great support Rene :nod:

Sow&Steady 05-30-2005 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Rene C.
...
You wish it, we do it. :)

Rene

O' Master ... will there be a 16t pinion that works better than the current one? Or is there a tip or two that ensures it works consistently without problems? :sweat:

B4 05-30-2005 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Rene C.
Ok, we will make an aluminium clamp ring. :nod:
To be honest, it is already done. I used it a long time, to find out the right material, also Kolff and Keur used it. Both where happy with the result.
You wish it, we do it. :)

Rene

I'm going to wish for some more things Rene.... I check tomorrow to see if you have also tried them.

Simon

_cyclops_ 05-30-2005 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by B4
I'm going to wish for some more things Rene.... I check tomorrow to see if you have also tried them.

Simon



hehe, give one vinger, take the hole hand? :D

sparksy 05-30-2005 09:46 PM

Wish list
 

Originally Posted by Rene C.
.
You wish it, we do it. :)

Rene

I wish the Alloy radio tray mount had 4mm mounting holes, and the same holes in the chassie were 4mm and countersunk to fit the 4mm screws.

It would save me some machining time.

Julius 05-31-2005 01:37 AM


Originally Posted by Sow&Steady
O' Master ... will there be a 16t pinion that works better than the current one? Or is there a tip or two that ensures it works consistently without problems? :sweat:

Here's a tip: Use a Mega and you don't need 16t :D :D :D

aturbotony 05-31-2005 11:10 AM

proto 3.1 stratus
 
I tried the new 3.1 stratus body yesterday and boy let me tell you.That body made such a difference in the cars turning and stability it was amazing.You guys should try it!! :D :D :D

clmbia45 05-31-2005 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by aturbotony
I tried the new 3.1 stratus body yesterday and boy let me tell you.That body made such a difference in the cars turning and stability it was amazing.You guys should try it!! :D :D :D

WHAT BODY WERE YOU USING BEFORE??? :cool:

Sow&Steady 05-31-2005 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by Julius
Here's a tip: Use a Mega and you don't need 16t :D :D :D

Tip is noted. :D

ntc3freak 06-01-2005 02:14 AM

guys,how good is the yellow seal bearings over the standard one????

ntc3freak 06-01-2005 05:01 AM

does the mono block engine mount fit the new os .12 tz???thanks

buboy28 06-01-2005 05:48 AM

cvd
 
where could i buy the serpent universals (cvd) cant seem to find it in online stores :rolleyes:

acutts 06-02-2005 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by buboy28
where could i buy the serpent universals (cvd) cant seem to find it in online stores :rolleyes:

Not available yet I believe ... I was told next week from my LHS ...!!

B4 06-02-2005 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by acutts
Not available yet I believe ... I was told next week from my LHS ...!!

available from Lam [email protected]

fulcrum2 06-02-2005 12:54 PM

Hi!


My used 710 came with a shim between the 1st and 2nd pinion gears, but in the manual is no shim visible.
Do I have to use the shim?

Many thanks in advance!


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