Serpent 710
#751
Originally posted by InitialD
I guess the track that Mark drives favours a solid front more than anything due to a number of apexes after a straight run !
I guess the track that Mark drives favours a solid front more than anything due to a number of apexes after a straight run !
#752
Originally posted by RoyU
InitialD, "Mr. Post-O-Matic"
InitialD, "Mr. Post-O-Matic"
Quite simple really
#753
Tech Rookie
@Mark: To which carpet track did you go? Why didn´t you have any CA with yo`? That´s a must. Was there nobody around to help you clueing your tires?
#754
Active Rear Toe
Michael can you explain briefly this "ART" system. What types of track and or conditions would you run more or less toe change.
Glad to see all the factory response to these questions very refreshing coming from being a former Mugen team driver where information is never shared. Looking forward to 2004 driving nothing but Serpents. I will begin building my 950R on Tuesday as long as the big brown truck shows up.
Glad to see all the factory response to these questions very refreshing coming from being a former Mugen team driver where information is never shared. Looking forward to 2004 driving nothing but Serpents. I will begin building my 950R on Tuesday as long as the big brown truck shows up.
#755
Originally posted by ub
@Mark: To which carpet track did you go? Why didn´t you have any CA with yo`? That´s a must. Was there nobody around to help you clueing your tires?
@Mark: To which carpet track did you go? Why didn´t you have any CA with yo`? That´s a must. Was there nobody around to help you clueing your tires?
I went to the MAC-Lauf circuit - just outside Nuernberg. Lack of experience ment that I didn't have any CA with me There were plenty of people there who would have helped me out, but I'd been there a couple of hours and I wanted to think about what I'd learnt from running at the circuit.
It was a lot harder driving on this circuit than the outdoor one in Nuernberg.
#756
Originally posted by RoyU
InitialD, "Mr. Post-O-Matic"
InitialD, "Mr. Post-O-Matic"
MichaelS,turn on your PM feature dude!
#757
No engine's talks!!!
#758
I have never owned a serpent... I was going to get a R40, but now that the serpent guys are here, answering questions...I think that I will have to get a 710...
#759
Re: Belt Question
Originally posted by InitialD
Just shooting a wild question at the Team Drivers...
What are the number of teeths the 3 belts are having? Also, I notice that on the rear of the 705, 22T brake pulley and 47T diff pulley combo uses the same stock 23T brake pulley and 46T diff pulley combo.
So now with the 710's 24T brake pulley and 45T rear diff pulley, are the rear belts the same? Or is the 2 speed shaft on the 710 at a different location relative to the 705?
Just shooting a wild question at the Team Drivers...
What are the number of teeths the 3 belts are having? Also, I notice that on the rear of the 705, 22T brake pulley and 47T diff pulley combo uses the same stock 23T brake pulley and 46T diff pulley combo.
So now with the 710's 24T brake pulley and 45T rear diff pulley, are the rear belts the same? Or is the 2 speed shaft on the 710 at a different location relative to the 705?
The side belt is shorter (new)
And the front belt is longer (also new).
I don't know the exact number of the teeths, i think the side belt was 446 and the front like 225. Must look at the office.
Last edited by Rene C.; 11-16-2003 at 09:25 AM.
#760
Re: Overdrive Question...
Originally posted by InitialD
Was the 710 tested with different overdrives and tire split? I think this was asked before by some...
Anyway, puching some numbers in, I believe you can run the 710 with a 4 mm split to get 1:1 overdrive when using 23T rear side pulley instead of the stock 22T.
Was the 710 tested with different overdrives and tire split? I think this was asked before by some...
Anyway, puching some numbers in, I believe you can run the 710 with a 4 mm split to get 1:1 overdrive when using 23T rear side pulley instead of the stock 22T.
#761
Tech Regular
disappointed
Rene,
I am disappointed as the new car doesn't have vent disk, hudy steel spring dog bones and axles as standard!
You guys are saying its the best/most exciting car to come from serpent, and I think the best car should come with the best AVAILABLE parts. And thoss parts listed are clearly better, in terms of hardness, weight.
And at 400USD a pop I think serpent can bare the little upgrade,, and add 20 USD, I don't think MOST consumers mind at all!!
I am disappointed as the new car doesn't have vent disk, hudy steel spring dog bones and axles as standard!
You guys are saying its the best/most exciting car to come from serpent, and I think the best car should come with the best AVAILABLE parts. And thoss parts listed are clearly better, in terms of hardness, weight.
And at 400USD a pop I think serpent can bare the little upgrade,, and add 20 USD, I don't think MOST consumers mind at all!!
#762
Re: Active Rear Toe
Originally posted by YBSLOW
Michael can you explain briefly this "ART" system. What types of track and or conditions would you run more or less toe change.
Glad to see all the factory response to these questions very refreshing coming from being a former Mugen team driver where information is never shared. Looking forward to 2004 driving nothing but Serpents. I will begin building my 950R on Tuesday as long as the big brown truck shows up.
Michael can you explain briefly this "ART" system. What types of track and or conditions would you run more or less toe change.
Glad to see all the factory response to these questions very refreshing coming from being a former Mugen team driver where information is never shared. Looking forward to 2004 driving nothing but Serpents. I will begin building my 950R on Tuesday as long as the big brown truck shows up.
Julius already answert this questionm.
He wrote :
The ART suspension has three main positions.
- Neutral, No change in toe.
- Up, The wheel gets less toe-in when the suspension compresses. This makes the rear steer more in corners.
- Down, opposite to up. It will make the car more stable under accelleration and braking (just using more static toe-in would make braking more difficult) but reduces the steering in fast corners.
Someone asked if we didn't believe in the system if you could use an option to run a "normal rear". If you'd thought first you'd realise that in every adjustment there is a "middle". If a company brings out a "hard" "medium" and "soft" spring you'd never comment "do they know what they are doing" Don't they trust the hard and soft ones to make an in between option available.
If that's the way you think, then you must think all tuning options on todays cars are a symbol of manufacturers not being sure of their design. Like "hey its a shit design, lets give them tuning options to sort it out!"
We think the ART suspension gives a tuning option that can help to refine the car to the track. Sometimes up works best, sometimes down, sometimes you'll find using the neutral gives the best feel of the car.
#763
Rene, can you explain how the "Dynamic rear steering" works and how it affects the cars handling.
#764
Thanks for that info.
Could you possibly give us a better picture of the rear suspension, maybe from the underside.
Could you possibly give us a better picture of the rear suspension, maybe from the underside.
#765
Re: disappointed
Originally posted by lawndoggie
Rene,
I am disappointed as the new car doesn't have vent disk, hudy steel spring dog bones and axles as standard!
You guys are saying its the best/most exciting car to come from serpent, and I think the best car should come with the best AVAILABLE parts. And thoss parts listed are clearly better, in terms of hardness, weight.
And at 400USD a pop I think serpent can bare the little upgrade,, and add 20 USD, I don't think MOST consumers mind at all!!
Rene,
I am disappointed as the new car doesn't have vent disk, hudy steel spring dog bones and axles as standard!
You guys are saying its the best/most exciting car to come from serpent, and I think the best car should come with the best AVAILABLE parts. And thoss parts listed are clearly better, in terms of hardness, weight.
And at 400USD a pop I think serpent can bare the little upgrade,, and add 20 USD, I don't think MOST consumers mind at all!!
But where is the line ?
I mean, should we also include solid axle (front and rear), front-differential, all the alu-stuff, all the springs and oil we have,…? Not everybody thinks that we should put thinks in the kit to make it more expensive. Not everyone has braking problem and need a vent disk or the new braking pats. Most of the driver’s running diff., or solid in the front have no problems. The things in the kit are not that bad you are telling.
Last edited by Rene C.; 11-16-2003 at 09:56 AM.