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fmolzer 01-15-2004 06:52 AM


Originally posted by nad138
Talking about Serpent's "corporate" colors, here's mine :
nad, unlike me, it seems you have painting skills !!!:nod:

fmolzer 01-15-2004 07:01 AM


Originally posted by InitialD
:rolleyes: :lol: Yeah, if that was true, then RB and NovaMax would also supply you their engines !:lol: :lol: :lol:
Dream, dream dream....

fmolzer 01-15-2004 07:06 AM

Re: Re: Re: Setups?
 

Originally posted by S710_Nut
I am using the solid diff at the front and have already disconnected the rear sway bar and this made a bog difference.


SN

Then, before you try anything else to get rid of the push, go for the front one-way instead...

Thaasman 01-15-2004 09:39 AM


Originally posted by InitialD
Ummm, Ok. I think Thaasman had the same problem mounting his receiver. Julius gave him a suggestion which seemed to work well (I think). Julius posted a pic of how the receiver box should be cut to fit the wires and crystal.

http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL142/...5/42882445.jpg

Thats correct D :D
What i did is i cut not only the red part, but the whole thing!:smile:
It should be no problem because the reciever will be well protected and cant get out or move when the protector-box is mounted...
RCJAY: if you want i can post some pics....;)

clmbia45 01-15-2004 09:45 AM

Re: Re: Re: Setups?
 

Originally posted by S710_Nut
I am using the solid diff at the front and have already disconnected the rear sway bar and this made a bog difference.


SN

Disconnecting the rear sway bar slows lateral weight transfer in the rear, increases rear traction, and actually increases the cars tendency to push (understeer).
Hook up the rear sway bar again and set the two aluminum collars with set screws so that about 3 mm of the sway bar sticks out past the collar, and give this a try.
If you're going to disconnect the sway bar to reduce the push, you want to disconnect the front one.
:nod:

PUNISHER 01-15-2004 10:14 AM

I'm on the 100th page!!:lol:

NitroHead 01-15-2004 10:34 AM


Fast Harry Posted; speakin' of yummy.....have you been racing with us at johns in nanuet?..

No Harry, I'd love too...E-mail me the address and phone#

Ducati998 01-15-2004 01:03 PM

Hi!

JABRONI 01-15-2004 01:52 PM

Steering Arms
 
Originally Posted By Goldfinger:

D, with this setup, do you know how MS mounting the (track rod)ball end ? on top of arm saver(like us) or bellow the saver (like in the book) ?

Last week, my 710 is handling very differently.
And last night, I just found this:
With 0 deg toe in, 1.5 camber, 6mm setup ride height
Ball end mounted on top: maximum turn is 25.5 deg(inside tire) and 14 deg(outside tire)
Ball end mounted bellow : max 24.5(inside), 15.5(outside).
In real condition, as the car leans hard (1 side of chasis hit the ground) the inside tire angle is increase about 2 deg and the outside is reduces about the same value.

As you can see the ackerman is angling so extremely.
I think this is playing a big part to resist the car to turns tighter, coz the tire slip angle amount is too big to overcome.

Please share your thought....

I kind of feel the same way, and appears to make sense !!
I would also like some input on this issue !!! Ideas/Tips/Trick/Good/Bad ????

Pit-racer 01-15-2004 03:09 PM

:cool: When I get the 710 what are the things I should know b4 starting to build? Are the book settings and assembly instru. all o.k.?

:tire: 100th page! :tire:

clmbia45 01-15-2004 03:13 PM

Re: Re: Michael's Setup Sheet for Srinakarin Track in Thailand
 

Originally posted by GoldFinger
D, with this setup, do you know how MS mounting the (track rod)ball end ? on top of arm saver(like us) or bellow the saver (like in the book) ?

Last week, my 710 is handling very differently.
And last night, I just found this:
With 0 deg toe in, 1.5 camber, 6mm setup ride height
Ball end mounted on top: maximum turn is 25.5 deg(inside tire) and 14 deg(outside tire)
Ball end mounted bellow : max 24.5(inside), 15.5(outside).
In real condition, as the car leans hard (1 side of chasis hit the ground) the inside tire angle is increase about 2 deg and the outside is reduces about the same value.

As you can see the ackerman is angling so extremely.
I think this is playing a big part to resist the car to turns tighter, coz the tire slip angle amount is too big to overcome.

Please share your thought....

http://www.rctek.com/handling/ackerm...e.html#moreack

InitialD 01-15-2004 05:30 PM

Re: Re: Michael's Setup Sheet for Srinakarin Track in Thailand
 

Originally posted by GoldFinger
D, with this setup, do you know how MS mounting the (track rod)ball end ? on top of arm saver(like us) or bellow the saver (like in the book) ?
The linkage on his car was installed as per the manual (ball joints below the servo saver).


Originally posted by GoldFinger
Last week, my 710 is handling very differently.
And last night, I just found this:
With 0 deg toe in, 1.5 camber, 6mm setup ride height
Ball end mounted on top: maximum turn is 25.5 deg(inside tire) and 14 deg(outside tire)
Ball end mounted bellow : max 24.5(inside), 15.5(outside).
In real condition, as the car leans hard (1 side of chasis hit the ground) the inside tire angle is increase about 2 deg and the outside is reduces about the same value.

Interesting...


Originally posted by GoldFinger
As you can see the ackerman is angling so extremely.
I think this is playing a big part to resist the car to turns tighter, coz the tire slip angle amount is too big to overcome.

So you're saying installing the ball end below the servo saver as per the manual will give a more agressive steering due to less Ackerman angle?

This is what Bruno Heeramans has got to say about Ackerman...

A large Ackermann angle (ball joints above the servo saver) gives you smooth, predictable steering. You'll be able to round the corners nicely without all four tires trying to force the car in a different direction. A smaller Ackermann angle (ball joints below the servo saver) on the other hand can give you more aggressive steering, aspecially entering the corners. However, it isn't guaranteed that the front won't wash out now and then. Neither is a smooth cornering radius. It can be useful an high-traction tracks, if your car tends to oversteer in the middle of the corners, and you'd like a little more turn-in. Not to mention the psychological impact on the person driving right in front of you when you're entering corners.

rcjayy 01-15-2004 06:06 PM

I got the recevier in, thanks guys for all your help

InitialD 01-15-2004 06:25 PM


Originally posted by rcjayy
I got the recevier in, thanks guys for all your help
rcjayy, glad one of the suggestions worked for you. Mind telling us how you did it?:D

rcjayy 01-15-2004 06:43 PM

I did what Thaasman posted but I had to move the cut up a little but it worked and im happy once again
:)


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