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Originally posted by SERPENTFREAK69 no sir,the 710 pulleys..i talked to ray today...i will confirm tomorrow and i will let you guys know about it....choco |
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Originally posted by Pyramid I think he meant the 21T, not the 22T |
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Originally posted by SERPENTFREAK69 no sir,the 710 pulleys..i talked to ray today...i will confirm tomorrow and i will let you guys know about it....choco |
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Originally posted by markp27 Hey D! Choco is looking good at taking over your prophet role :eek: http://www.3hobby.com/modules/Forums...wistedevil.gif |
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Originally posted by InitialD So the 21T has already arrived? Plastic or aluminum? |
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Originally posted by markp27 To prove you Prophet-ness, could you please give us the low down on what the overdrive will give us? :D We would be most grateful, oh great wise Prophet :yes: To get the same 1:1 overdrive on the front and rear, you need to run a 4 mm split i.e. front tires 4 mm smaller than rear tires. |
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Originally posted by InitialD So the 21T has already arrived? Plastic or aluminum? |
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Originally posted by Pyramid We do not even have the part number yet for 21T |
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Originally posted by InitialD Can I give wrong info? :sneaky: muhahaha :lol: :deathstar To get the same 1:1 overdrive on the front and rear, you need to run a 4 mm split i.e. front tires 4 mm smaller than rear tires. At the moment we need a 1mm split for 1:1, you mean with the 21T we would need 4mm split? So what is the advantage of the 21T? |
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Originally posted by markp27 So what is the advantage of the 21T? I guess for those who still get more wear in the rear would benefit as the split would stay the same almost throughout since the front tires will rotate more turns than the rear tires. More rotation in the front tires means more wear and this somehow will translate to even front and rear wear rate. Front side of the car would get an even lower RC due to the front sitting lower because of smaller tires while maintaining same ride height. And lastly, you get to use a bigger rear tire to achieve the required tire rollout / top speed for a particular track while still being able to use smaller tires in the front for better handling. Not forgetting the times when you need the tires to be big in the rear because of excessive wear and rear ride height clearance, you would still be able to use "smaller" front tires. :nod: |
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Originally posted by InitialD You want the wrong or right info? :sneaky: :lol: I guess for those who still get more wear in the rear would benefit as the split would stay the same almost throughout since the front tires will rotate more turns than the rear tires. More rotation in the front tires means more wear and this somehow will translate to even front and rear wear rate. Front side of the car would get an even lower RC due to the front sitting lower because of smaller tires while maintaining same ride height. And lastly, you get to use a bigger rear tire to achieve the required tire rollout / top speed for a particular track while still being able to use smaller tires in the front for better handling. Not forgetting the times when you need the tires to be big in the rear because of excessive wear and rear ride height clearance, you would still be able to use "smaller" front tires. :nod: In reality the front roll center goes up when using smaller tires. You'll need to set the springs to get the ride height back and that moves the suspension arms in a position that raises the roll center. It's a small change though, as the roll center doesn't move a lot with suspension movement. Part of the trick with mre overdrive is using it. That means not trueing tires to different sizes but actually creating more front drive. It will give more stability on power and more turn in off power. In low grip this may lead to off throttle oversteer though. |
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Originally posted by Julius In reality the front roll center goes up when using smaller tires. You'll need to set the springs to get the ride height back and that moves the suspension arms in a position that raises the roll center. It's a small change though, as the roll center doesn't move a lot with suspension movement. But seriously Julius, wouldn't the front arms be flatter and intersect at a further point = lower roll center? If the front arms are more angled because of using smaller tires and setting the shock springs to get back the ride height, then I would agree with you... But that's not the case with the arms right? Originally posted by Julius Part of the trick with mre overdrive is using it. That means not trueing tires to different sizes but actually creating more front drive. It will give more stability on power and more turn in off power. In low grip this may lead to off throttle oversteer though. |
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Originally posted by Julius In low grip this may lead to off throttle oversteer though. |
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Originally posted by InitialD Aiks ! The Master has detected an error. :sweat: :lol: But seriously Julius, wouldn't the front arms be flatter and intersect at a further point = lower roll center? If the front arms are more angled because of using smaller tires and setting the shock springs to get back the ride height, then I would agree with you... But that's not the case with the arms right? |
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