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packetdreamer 09-07-2004 02:19 PM


Originally posted by SERPENTFREAK69
THANKS PACKETDREAMER.....SO I SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THESE SERVOS IN MY 710?WITH THE 3PK RADIO?
np.

they both fit, both have plenty of torque, both are plenty fast, both have metal gears and other commonalities. so you should have no problems with either one.
like i said, i run the 9450's and have no problems.

as far as the 3pk... well... i have a 3pjs which is about to get traded up to t 3pk, but i have no actual life experience with the radio, but its my choice over the helios.

maybe others can provide more... "objective" view of the radios, but i like futaba.

Sow&Steady 09-07-2004 02:21 PM


Originally posted by SERPENTFREAK69
THANKS PACKETDREAMER.....SO I SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THESE SERVOS IN MY 710?WITH THE 3PK RADIO?
PacketDreamer is right with the servo stats ... in essence there isn't much in it. I use the 9550s in one car because its the outlaw version with Lola ... lightest car, loudest pipe and most powerful engine is best this class. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here is my outlaw Ssssssnake car, IF my site is still online that is. ;)

The other car uses the larger normal servos (945o initially, now the WRX series). Works just as well. :nod:

Sow&Steady 09-07-2004 02:32 PM


Originally posted by packetdreamer
maybe others can provide more... "objective" view of the radios, but i like futaba.
After having used the 3PK for some time, I must say this is the best radio for the money.

I like the fact that it feels balanced in your hands, this is important in a long main.
It's large screen faces you (mostly) which is very handy if you need to sneak a peek while your pitman is refuelling in the battle during a race.
It has built in failsafe, both for Rx low-voltage and radio interference. No need to get a seperate unit to plonk on your car.
It's menus are logical and has everything you'll ever need for car racing.
It's timer is easy to set if you need to keep an "ear" on your fuel.

I like the Sanwa M8 also but its slightly heavier, no failsafe and I find the timer awkward. Its also more expensive than the 3PK feature for feature.

I have not tested or tried the Ko-Helios. The ergonomics looks comfortable but still no built in failsafe.

All in all, I would consider these 3 radios if you prefer to use the wheel type. 3PK first, Sanwa M8 and then the Helios.

fastharry™ 09-07-2004 04:40 PM

I agree....the 3 pk is a very intuitive radio.......

Try using a neck strap with it......It hangs at the perfect angle...real comfy for long mains...

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXELU7&P=7

KevinS 09-07-2004 05:05 PM

Hmmm... re-mortgage my house and get this? Can't make up my mind...
http://shop.the-border.nl/customer/s...5&in_category=

:eek::eek: 325 Euro! :eek::eek:

Sow&Steady 09-07-2004 05:20 PM


Originally posted by fastharry
I agree....the 3 pk is a very intuitive radio.......

Try using a neck strap with it......It hangs at the perfect angle...real comfy for long mains...

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXELU7&P=7

Fastharry, good point. I should try that too! :nod:

Sow&Steady 09-07-2004 05:23 PM


Originally posted by KevinS
Hmmm... re-mortgage my house and get this? Can't make up my mind...
http://shop.the-border.nl/customer/s...5&in_category=

:eek::eek: 325 Euro! :eek::eek:

Well, I think its worth it only if you're running nitro or electric with rubber. Someone brought it to my local track recently and it looks extremely good but like you said ... you'd need to mortgage the house first!

Personally, I'd rather spend that amount of money on a good engine like the JP-FX. :D

InitialD 09-07-2004 06:45 PM


Originally posted by Sow&Steady
Yup, and change the bumper to the Lola one with spikes attached! :smile:
Mad Max influenced?:lol:

InitialD 09-07-2004 06:46 PM


Originally posted by Sow&Steady
PacketDreamer is right with the servo stats ... in essence there isn't much in it. I use the 9550s in one car because its the outlaw version with Lola ... lightest car, loudest pipe and most powerful engine is best this class. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Why are we not surprised?:sweat: :lol:

InitialD 09-07-2004 06:48 PM


Originally posted by Sow&Steady
Personally, I'd rather spend that amount of money on a good engine like the JP-FX. :D
:sneaky: Don't you already have a JP FX?:rolleyes: :sweat:

InitialD 09-07-2004 06:51 PM


Originally posted by KevinS
Hmmm... re-mortgage my house and get this? Can't make up my mind...
http://shop.the-border.nl/customer/s...5&in_category=

:eek::eek: 325 Euro! :eek::eek:

:cry: :cry: :cry:

Well Kevin, since it's about the same cost for an engine, I guess we can just leave the engine out with just the rolling chassis and just have the Hudy for bench racing.:nod: :lol:

InitialD 09-07-2004 06:53 PM


Originally posted by fastharry
I agree....the 3 pk is a very intuitive radio.......

Try using a neck strap with it......It hangs at the perfect angle...real comfy for long mains...

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXELU7&P=7

Any reason with the Hitec instead of the Futaba one?

InitialD 09-07-2004 06:59 PM


Originally posted by Sow&Steady
It's large screen faces you (mostly) which is very handy if you need to sneak a peek while your pitman is refuelling in the battle during a race.
It has built in failsafe, both for Rx low-voltage and radio interference. No need to get a seperate unit to plonk on your car.
It's menus are logical and has everything you'll ever need for car racing.

True but somebody here will swear that the Helios is better than 3PK ! :rolleyes: :lol:

I have to admit that the Helios looks good and feels more balanced when the antenna is extended. Feels more comfortable than the 3PK but the only thing I'm still rooting for 3PK is due to the large screen (eyes getting old) and fail safe function. Sadly, the 3PK is not as computer savy as the Helios. With the Helios, you're able to interface with the computer and save / upload your settings etc.

SERPENTFREAK69 09-07-2004 08:12 PM


Originally posted by InitialD
True but somebody here will swear that the Helios is better than 3PK ! :rolleyes: :lol:

I have to admit that the Helios looks good and feels more balanced when the antenna is extended. Feels more comfortable than the 3PK but the only thing I'm still rooting for 3PK is due to the large screen (eyes getting old) and fail safe function. Sadly, the 3PK is not as computer savy as the Helios. With the Helios, you're able to interface with the computer and save / upload your settings etc.

THANKS A LOT GUYS,LOOKS LIKE I WILL BE GETTING THE 3PK WITH 9450 SERVOS....IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THESE SERVOS OR 3PK?

InitialD 09-07-2004 08:18 PM


Originally posted by SERPENTFREAK69
THANKS A LOT GUYS,LOOKS LIKE I WILL BE GETTING THE 3PK WITH 9450 SERVOS....IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THESE SERVOS OR 3PK?
If you could, get the 9451 servos instead of 9450. The 9451 servos are smoother like KO servos. Both are digital and are about the same specs. The 9450 is just older but I thought it was already discontinued by Futaba.


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