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seb1109 11-27-2008 03:47 AM

MTX 5
 
anyone heard when it will hit the tracks??

NiTrO BoOsTeR 11-27-2008 03:59 AM

there was a hope or a rumor of a new 1/10th car, its not looking good but it wont be called the Mtx5 from what i have heard, i heard it will be the Mtx4-rx similar to the 1/8th MRX4-X upgrade.

Dont go by what i have said its only what i have heard.

shamu 11-27-2008 06:59 AM

I contacted Mugen on this issue last week and was told there is no new car or upgrade at this time.

wingracer 11-27-2008 07:44 AM

I imagine new designs are on hold for a bit since Sheperd's designer just joined Mugen. With him on board I'm sure many great new things will be coming down the road but it might be a little while.

tony montana 11-27-2008 07:50 AM

man I miss onroad, Should have kept all my mugen stuff, with 301 raceway only half hour away

Arahawak 11-27-2008 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by tony montana (Post 5099640)
man I miss onroad, Should have kept all my mugen stuff, with 301 raceway only half hour away

You should have stuck with it. :)

Ryan41 11-28-2008 01:55 AM

To tell you the truth...I believe a new car will be released next year sometime. I was at the Mugen factory in Chiba, Japan last fortnight whilst on Holidays and I did see a prototype..not sure if it will be the same car as released...but it did look cool. Unfortunately all the writing on the card was in Japanese..so it made no sense to me :lol: But yes, I would say next year.

straightaway 11-28-2008 11:40 PM

I hope they fix the gear stripping problem of mtx4.

stefan 11-28-2008 11:55 PM

Do you guys feel that we REALLY need a new car just yet?
Is there another car out there that makes the MTX4 R obsolete.
Any car that is quicker than the Mugen for technical reasons?

I feel absolutely competitive with mine and I got plenty of spares left, so I hope Mugen will wait at least until the end of next season.

Also, who feels that his driving skills are better than what the car can deliver?:sneaky:

I know, mine aren't!!:lol:

Btw, I never had a spur gear issue!!!

NiTrO BoOsTeR 11-28-2008 11:58 PM

yea i never had a gear strip at all and i been racing about a year, i still feel competitive, like you, with mine but that is because we all are running the same car. i think it would be to mugens advantage to bring out an upgrade kit rather than the new car and make it the MTX-4rx and people with the mtx4 series can just upgrade rather than buying a brand new car.

Just my 2 cents worth

Roelof 11-29-2008 01:56 AM

I know a brand who comes up with model every year and still is not able to beat the other brands ;)

stefan 11-29-2008 02:17 AM


Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 5105460)
I know a brand who comes up with model every year and still is not able to beat the other brands ;)

You know, that's why I gave up on electric sedan. You can't buy that stuff as quickly as it comes out.

That's why I love nitro racing. The cars are good for 3-4 years.

choisan 11-29-2008 06:29 AM

come on mugen, even some brand is going to shorten its re-engineering time from 2 years to, maybe 1 after you launch a new car. mugen is still a mugen.

Luís Cortez 11-29-2008 03:06 PM

Gears
 
I never had a gear strip in a full season with MTX4R.

I didn´t use the new gears. Only the "old ones". No problem.

The MTX4 is still a competitive car. Won a chapionship with Serpents, Xray and Team Magic evolved.

It´s still a great car. Very simple but efective.


If a new car is comming it must be a blast... with technical inovations.

Best regards

Luís Cortez

JLock 11-30-2008 11:07 PM

Mugen tends to roll with what works. All these companies that keep changing their car designs and putting out new cars 6 months to a year after releasing a new kit means that they did not get it right the first time, in my opinion. They keep you buying/spending making you think that you have to get the latest/greatest just to keep up. I have been racing my MTX4 since it first came out (reluctantly bought it because my MTX3 was still highly competitive but parts availability gave way to the MTX4 parts production, forcing the switch). While I have been running my MTX4, many of my buddies have bought and run both versions of the Serpent 720, several versions of the Kyosho V one RRR, two versions of the G4, and the Xray NT1. Yes, I have one buddy in particular that have owned all the above including the MTX4 during my almost 2 years of owning my MTX4. So, why keep making major changes to a product that is working just to make changes (ask the folks that bought the Impulse Pro which was quickly replaced by the 705 and immediately replaced by the 710, all of which shared almost no parts meaning you were stuck like chuck especially with the 705 model). So, Mugen, take your time and if you are eventually going to come out with a new model, phase it in like you have done with your previous two models (MTX3 and MTX4).

NiTrO BoOsTeR 12-01-2008 12:35 AM

i agree, the mtx4r is still a awsome car and not much needs to be changed, so i recon when a mugen cant beat a Kyosho or a Serpent or an Xray then the new 1 will come out.

s10dude 12-01-2008 05:36 AM

every car is a winner with the right driver !.......................

CraigX 12-01-2008 05:44 AM

2009 is an 1/8th onroad worlds year, I would think they would be working on development of the MRX4 instead of the sedan.

NiTrO BoOsTeR 12-01-2008 02:14 PM

i wouldn't because they just brought out the MRX4-X so they wouldnt be bringing out a new 1/8th less than a year after they just brought it out.

Ryan41 12-01-2008 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by NiTrO BoOsTeR (Post 5114145)
i wouldn't because they just brought out the MRX4-X so they wouldnt be bringing out a new 1/8th less than a year after they just brought it out.

Most manufacturers bring out a new car for the worlds amigo. Fact of life...factory drivers get it for the worlds...we get it a couple months later :sneaky:

CraigX 12-01-2008 08:17 PM

How long was the -R around before the -X was released? I wasn't really implying a new car, just concentrating development on the MRX platform instead of the MTX for the Worlds.

Arahawak 12-01-2008 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by CraigX (Post 5116034)
How long was the -R around before the -X was released? I wasn't really implying a new car, just concentrating development on the MRX platform instead of the MTX for the Worlds.

MRX4, i think 2004? please correct me if wrong. The -R and -X are still the 4 platform.

choisan 12-01-2008 09:41 PM

The R was there by the 2005 Messina World's race. The X was for the 2007.

olev 12-02-2008 01:59 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan41 (Post 5114801)
Most manufacturers bring out a new car for the worlds amigo. Fact of life...factory drivers get it for the worlds...we get it a couple months later :sneaky:

Well, this year we had 1:10 touring worlds. Where's the new car, amigo?:lol:

Ryan41 12-02-2008 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by olev (Post 5116931)
Well, this year we had 1:10 touring worlds. Where's the new car, amigo?:lol:

This year was a write off for them...they realised there car was too crap to fix in time so they just left it :lol: Results show..lol

straightaway 12-02-2008 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by straightaway (Post 5105314)
I hope they fix the gear stripping problem of mtx4.

I stopped running all three of my MTX4 after it stripped 7 gears in one day. I even had a mugen driver helping me to set the gear up. The problem is that there is about 1 mm gap btwn the clutch bell and the 2nd gear housing, if there is some excess chassis flex, the clutch bell will contact the 2nd gear housing and strip the 2nd platic gear.

Now I have tons of mtx3 to last me till the MTX5 comes out. The MTX3 is like a tank. A little slower but I don't run the risk of blowing out 2nd gear.

JetMD 12-03-2008 06:01 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan41 (Post 5121314)
This year was a write off for them...they realised there car was too crap to fix in time so they just left it :lol: Results show..lol

If you drive xray, what are you doing in here? Thinking about upgrading to a Mugen? I don't blame you.:lol:

stefan 12-03-2008 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by JetMD (Post 5122050)
If you drive xray, what are you doing in here? Thinking about upgrading to a Mugen? I don't blame you.:lol:

Nah, he's here to gather knowledge of how to make the copy as fast as the original. Won't work though :lol:

SOLOARTIST 702 12-03-2008 09:43 AM

hmm
 
there are a lot of closet MUGEN fans there just shy:lol::lol:

finchy 12-03-2008 01:08 PM

ryan41 is the type of guy that thinks what wins the worlds, will make him win. Believe me his lack of results show that he should of stuck with MUGEN.
:nod:

Arahawak 12-03-2008 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by finchy (Post 5123444)
ryan41 is the type of guy that thinks what wins the worlds, will make him win. Believe me his lack of results show that he should of stuck with MUGEN.
:nod:

If that's the case, he should run a Kyosho. They won right? :p

finchy 12-03-2008 09:47 PM

well if he wanted to go slower, he would run a KYOSLOW. That's right he had the M3, sold it to his mate, who in turn sold it promptly and returned to the MRX4X. Bring on the MTX5 at least you know when it's released you won't have to buy a new car for a couple of years at least. One thing is when Mugen release a car it's not updated every year. I myself have tried alot of other brands but now I know what the best is just read the bottom line.:nod:

Ryan41 12-03-2008 10:20 PM


Originally Posted by Arahawak (Post 5124705)
If that's the case, he should run a Kyosho. They won right? :p

Hahha, Finchy my man...just wait til I return the to 1/8 arena :D Next year hopefully! Nothing wrong with Mugen...and yes, I will be buying a mrx4x..Only bought the xray to be different...and now there are millions of the things:mad:

choisan 12-04-2008 12:05 AM

The reason i like mugen is that it never has any unwanted options such as the other brands. if it really has options, mugen has thought inside out its feasibility. and i think whatever mugen chose to build, it already qualified the supplier, there should be problem free. unlike i owned a 960 as a 2nd car, its options were quite lousy, and expensive.
for mugen, it is just a racer out of the box. it will never build a car which must require option to be able to run:lol::lol:

itchy b 12-04-2008 02:38 AM


Originally Posted by finchy (Post 5123444)
ryan41 is the type of guy that thinks what wins the worlds, will make him win. Believe me his lack of results show that he should of stuck with MUGEN.
:nod:

Ooh, your so hurtful!:sneaky::D:lol:

JLock 12-04-2008 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by choisan (Post 5125892)
The reason i like mugen is that it never has any unwanted options such as the other brands. if it really has options, mugen has thought inside out its feasibility. and i think whatever mugen chose to build, it already qualified the supplier, there should be problem free. unlike i owned a 960 as a 2nd car, its options were quite lousy, and expensive.
for mugen, it is just a racer out of the box. it will never build a car which must require option to be able to run:lol::lol:

Funny you mention this. I have gone to many regional races and have held my own against the competition. When some have come to ask me what hop-ups do I have on my car and I tell them that I am running it box stock, they are totally amazed. They tell me that they have to get this hop-up part or that hop-up part in order to get their car to do this or that on the track like my car does. That is the beauty of the Mugen cars. You don't need to invest hundreds of dollars in hop-up/aftermarket parts in order to hang with the top guys.

choisan 12-04-2008 03:57 PM

You are absolutely right! in my country, there are only less than 2 mrx4 running since 2004 due to the lousy distributor, i am buying parts from japan(in fact, my local distributor is the one probably contributed the result of mtx4 having a serial# in the chassis) At the track where i am going and it is a snake base, many 960 people did come to ask me what this and that to hop up. And the funny thing is, i am always telling them. I was afraid of not having enough local support by the time i had this car so i stock up a lot of required parts. But until now i still have tons of unused spare parts that i can almost build another spare mrx4.

To cut it short, Mugen has a very durable car. With the same impact, my mrx4 has no damage, but same on a 960, wow, they needed to change a lot of parts.

even the mtx4 sibling- xray's nt1, it has hell of a lot of expensive options. no wonder they spent 2 years to reengineer to produce a me too, to "develop options".:lol::lol:

Arahawak 12-04-2008 07:03 PM

the only options or hop ups i think are good for the Mugen are

1. Ti screws.
2. optional 4mm chassis

ta-dahhh you have a racer. :D

asw7576 12-04-2008 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by straightaway (Post 5121503)
I stopped running all three of my MTX4 after it stripped 7 gears in one day. I even had a mugen driver helping me to set the gear up. The problem is that there is about 1 mm gap btwn the clutch bell and the 2nd gear housing, if there is some excess chassis flex, the clutch bell will contact the 2nd gear housing and strip the 2nd platic gear.

Now I have tons of mtx3 to last me till the MTX5 comes out. The MTX3 is like a tank. A little slower but I don't run the risk of blowing out 2nd gear.

Isn't that difficult to race mtx3 against newer cars ?

MTX3 have traction roll problem and excessive push, don't you think ?

( I still have 2 mtx3 prospec on the shelf, but I haven't race it again since january 2007 ).

itchy b 12-05-2008 02:06 AM


Originally Posted by Arahawak (Post 5129221)
the only options or hop ups i think are good for the Mugen are

1. Ti screws.
2. optional 4mm chassis

ta-dahhh you have a racer. :D

I would add Ti Pillow balls, TI steering, rear links and Ti hinge pins to your list!!:sneaky:
Just to get the weight down a bit more!;):sneaky::D


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