Try September 2005 :)

MTX4 was realeased in 2005 and World Champion in 2006.

Almost 5 seasons on its sholders...

Almost 5 years???:weird:
Its only september 2009, not 2010!!;):p:D:lol:
Still looking forward to the new car when it comes out!;):D

Just Mugen haters wanting to bash on the product.:lol::lol: Seriously, while all the racers around me in my area change cars to get the latest, greatest, I have been running my MTX4 since just after it came out and my expenditures have been tires, a few parts, a couple of OS engines, and a few bodies. That is a lot less than a $350+ car kit every few months along with the tires, bodies, parts, and engines. And, I am still just as competitive with the other cars without all the added costs of switching cars and having to relearn the car and develop new setups for said car (reliving the learning curve for each new car).

I will not extend this discussion, but my MTX4 has almost 5 seasons, I don't know about yours.

Let's see my MTX4's live:

Sep 2005 - Nov 2005: 3 races (half a season)
2006 - 1 season
2007 - 1 season
2008 - 1 season
2009 - will be 1 season

I just need 'half a season' in 2010 to be 5 seasons complete.

MTX4 is really almost 5 seasons old.

If your car is still working/reliable and still competitive with the others on the market now, then what is the problem?

debut for the new kit on the coming worlds for sure next year in the us
;til then, very satisfied about the performance of my 4 year old kit which
by the way has no stripping problems.
i still purchase parts for the more than 8 mtx3 still runing in my club!

That's what I am talking about. Mugen has a reliable car and people gripe about when are they going to develop a new one. Mugen has always run a design for at least 2 to 3 years before they redesign it. If folks want a new design (and get caught up in the 4 to 6 month new format rat-race and spend tons of money), then you can roll with the Serpent, Kyosho, or Xray (already have a '09 version with the first version barely a year old). When Mugen does come out with there new car, I will wait in line to get one but won't be in a hurry because the MTX4 still runs with the best of them.;):D:nod:

How many MTX4 production ( including MTX4R ) worldwide since 2005 ?

4000 cars ?

Mugen MTX5
 

Well said!. I have a MTX4R and a first edition RRR, and it seems like everyone at our local track has jumped on the bandwagon to buy the new Serpent 733.
I am Very happy with both cars, but do run my Mugen much more than my RRR.
I think a lot of drivers are looking for the "missing piece" that will land them in the A mains, and think that the new car might just do that. If you cant win with the cars that are out now, I doubt if the newer cars will make much if any difference.
I ran the wheels off my MTX3 before I changed to the MTX4R, and really the only reason I changed was because the parts were starting to get difficult to find for the MTX3.

Well said yourself!! I still have my MTX3 with a couple of minor upgrades and the only reason I went over to the MTX4 was because of parts availability was drying up for the MTX3. The 3 is still a good car and I did stock up on parts but have relegated it to parking lot club racing (with an OS 12TZ, it is a very good medium to small track racer) and use my 4 for the big tracks.

As far as the "missing piece", it is more about the right tires/setup and refining the driving skill more than a new car (latest/greatest). I have landed in higher mains more for working on the driving skills and making adjustments to the car as the track situation dictates more than switching cars. Now, I have on occasions bought one of the other cars just to see all the hype, but eventually sold it to someone looking for one cheaper than a new one and went back to my Mugens.

what? still no word on this !
lol
lol

Be patient. When they build it, we will buy!!!:nod:

I still love my mugen. I'm still pulling more speed out of my mugen after 3 years of running. There is no way I would want to start over with a new chassis unless it's an MTX5. Anyone know who has the kawahara upper arm mounts for sell? (complete set)


Pass you soon...

People like change and yes change can be good. Prime example Bush to Obama :nod::nod: To answer this question as to why manufactures are constantly changing their cars is that technology changes and the need to be number 1. Remember in order to make an omlet you HAVE to break a few eggs. NOTHING is ever truly perfect the first time round.

Novarossi and ALL the other engine manufactures all inject new engines to the market yearly, why? Simply just to make it better (and boost sales but I never said that). Even Mugen did this, that is why there is an "R" version to their chassis.

In summary change is a necessary evil in our hobby.

I believe most of the engineering efforts at Mugen were placed in the offroad sector. I believe once those projects are finished. I see the Mtx4r on the block next.

Jay just wants something new to buy. :lol:

go to rc champ, you can get tons of parts still available from kawahara, fast and well priced
shipping, and you can get options parts such as knack also.
support otherwise your lhs

good luck

Change is good upto a certain point... I think mugen has had a great history of Coming out with a great design followed by some changes through a 3-4 year run on a design.. These changes usually is less than $100.00 and is more of a tuning option vs an upgrade....

Well, that should be over with now that the MBX6/6T are on the market. While we are debating and spinning this, they are probably working on the redesigns of the MTX4R/MRX4X now. With the Worlds coming to Houston (the Porter track), you know that a prototype of both with soon be out and testing will begin somewhere in Asia by October.

+1 on this post! :nod:

I have to agree. I believe Mbx6/mbx6t are pretty much done. Only time will tell; and I plenty!!!!


Pass you soon...

Mtx-4R still one of the best 1/10 cars on the r/c market BUT all others brands have release new products with new technology on the designs,moore adjustment features and new setting options, for example the new serpent S733,finals of 2008 Kyosho change the car and the new Xray NT1'09 version, we the mugen driver's need a new car with the new technology and desings updates!!!
SO, MUGEN SEIKI WE ARE COUNTING ON YOU GUYS !!!:tire::nod::sneaky:

Again, be patient my fellow Mugen racer. Something is coming down the pipe soon, especially with the Worlds just around the corner here in my homestate of Texas at one of the nicest facilities going.

I know, I am a little ansious about a new sedan, some people says it's comming some people says it's not comming and every other brands have a new toy you know we need it!:sneaky: to be updated with the market, here in Puerto Rico the other racer's says you with the OLD CAR jajaja but we are the ones leading the local championship with the OLD CAR!!!

I've got an mtx4r. But you know you've really got to wonder if Mugen is still planning on supporting this car or whether there is any plans of an mtx5 when their top driver in the US hasn't run it all year. I can understand before the Worlds wanting to concentrate on 1/8. But what about at the Nats? The Worlds were over. Other team's top drivers were running both classes. Why wouldn't Mugen have pushed for their top driver to be driving sedan as well? It's an oppurtunity for another National Championship for them. Plus this year was qualifier for next year's Worlds. If I were Mugen, I would've been wanting Swauger to run sedan. Even if I didn't have a new car right now, but was planning on one? I would've wanted Swauger to run to qualify for Worlds so that next year you'd have a top driver there with the new car. I don't know for sure why Mike didn't run sedan. But not seeing him running and not seeing a Mugen in the A. It really makes me wonder about the future of sedan racing with Mugen.

Waiting!
 

I think I'm just gonna have to wait for this one!!!!!!!
nyahahaha! Save my $$$$ for now.

I'm thinking they prob don't want him running since half his car is kyosho or other non-mugen ;)

but don't previous a-main in the world auto make next worlds?

That does not apply to 1/10 scale. He was second in the 1/8 scale worlds. He will probally get an alternate spot for the 1/10 scale worlds. He is still one of the top 1/10 drivers in the US.

Yes, previous a-main in the worlds qualify to go to the next worlds. I don't think Mike was in the previous worlds sedan a-main, but I really doubt he will have a difficult time getting a spot on the US team.

So does anyone knows when would be the most possible date of release for the new MTX5?

No one here knows what Mugen is up to at their home office and R&D lab back in Japan. We don't even know if it will be called the MTX5 (just speculation). If they follow true to form like when the MTX3 and MTX4 came out, CAD drawing should surface around Christmas and kits will hit the market by late Spring 2010. That would be if 2010 is a target time for any release of a new 200mm touring car.

Not true. Mike ran TC at the Capital Classic and I think was leading when he broke. Mike rarely runs TC so don't read anything into the fact that he didn't run the nats.

Oh yeah, the CAD should be seen around December, ok will be looking for that this December.

Cant wait any longer..

The car will come out when it is ready. End of story. You can choose to wait or get something else. It's your money. Believe me, I would love to see a new Mugen kit. But with 2 seasons on my MTX4R, I still feel it's competitive with the new cars out there. Setup, tires, and practice is the key for 95% of us, not a brand new kit that we have to find out what works where.

Whenever Mugen decided to put put the new hotness, I'll be sure to get one. Until then (and even after that, depending on setup), the MTX4R will be in the thick of things at my track.

Be easy...

Mike was telling people at the Nats last week that both new cars will be out before the 200mm worlds 2010 in Texas. Also MTX4r parts are discontinued so it should be to much longer. So what parts the hobby shops have left is it on the parts.

This does not make sence. Why would Mugen discontinue parts for the 4r when the 5 is not even out yet? Not to mention, once the 5 does come out, there will probably still be people runing the 4.

Plus, I just orderd some 4r parts and my hobby shop did not have them in stock. He had to order them and he didn't have any trouble getting them.

yeah and also they are promoting the MTX-4R M-spec pre-assemble to factory driver's specs and setting, it make no sence:weird::confused:

What do you mean BOTH? So Mike now is telling next year there will be a new car from mugen..That is a good news!! Can you make it clear when you say BOTH?

1/8th and 1/10th.