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Pattojnr 03-16-2009 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by aussies1129 (Post 5556153)
yep, I might try 40rear and see how it goes but most companies dont keep 40 in stock:confused:

also those people runnning lipo where are you putting your regulators on your car??

cheers:)

where ever thay fit :lol: i see grubs on the top deck above steering servo on a plate screwed on. so not sure about that one. im sure he will let ya know.
might head down this weekend so Grub can chase the snake again ;)

asw7576 03-16-2009 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by Pattojnr (Post 5556262)
where ever thay fit :lol: i see grubs on the top deck above steering servo on a plate screwed on. so not sure about that one. im sure he will let ya know.
might head down this weekend so Grub can chase the snake again ;)

I guess he expect to have more chassis flexes by doing that.

DS Motorsport 03-16-2009 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by aussies1129 (Post 5556153)
yep, I might try 40rear and see how it goes but most companies dont keep 40 in stock:confused:

also those people runnning lipo where are you putting your regulators on your car??

cheers:)

I've made a bracket so it fits between the tank and the exhaust. The xceed version fit's perfectly. Later today i will post some pictures, i'm currently at school.

For the diff oil, i always use 80k in the front and 40k in the rear. Only when i run on a really tight track i switch to a solid in the front and 30k in the rear.

aussies1129 03-16-2009 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by Pattojnr (Post 5556262)
where ever thay fit :lol: i see grubs on the top deck above steering servo on a plate screwed on. so not sure about that one. im sure he will let ya know.
might head down this weekend so Grub can chase the snake again ;)

hey, yep I have mine sitting on the transponder but I had a few missed laps last week cost me a race even thou I was 2 laps ahead of the guy who won:confused: I am thinking the reg interfered?? also i was a bit reluctant o putting the reg in front of the fuel tank due to any fuel which could spill onto it:confused: sounds like you got that mm 353 going well?
cheers:)

Pattojnr 03-16-2009 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by aussies1129 (Post 5556318)
hey, yep I have mine sitting on the transponder but I had a few missed laps last week cost me a race even thou I was 2 laps ahead of the guy who won:confused: I am thinking the reg interfered?? also i was a bit reluctant o putting the reg in front of the fuel tank due to any fuel which could spill onto it:confused: sounds like you got that mm 353 going well?
cheers:)

the 353 is in bits still. awaiting bearings.
i used an under powered (compared to the M353) a Mega MF, it was all the car. it was a virgin before the day, first bit of track time it saw. the snake is fast :nod:

Nitro-Racer* 03-16-2009 09:44 AM

hey guys i have been experiencing understeering problems since the day i go the car. last time i think i solved the problem but will a 100,000 sct oil in the front help, have been using 80,000 so far?? i am using 30,000 in the back. Thank you

Rico890 03-16-2009 09:55 AM

Hi,

The last few weekends I'm having some problems with the fly weigths of the clutch.

After some runs the weigth holes are turning oval or there is even a crack at het side.

Clutch setting seems normal:

Clutch gap is 0.6 mm
Xray hard spring at 1.4 mm

How can I get this solved, every weekend new weights is expensive too.

Thanks

D-nicest 03-16-2009 09:59 AM

Bruckner Hobbies has NT1 2009 spec kits in stock for 499.99 718-863-3434.
Store also has NT1 parts and hopups;)

DS Motorsport 03-16-2009 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by Rico890 (Post 5557298)
Hi,

The last few weekends I'm having some problems with the fly weigths of the clutch.

After some runs the weigth holes are turning oval or there is even a crack at het side.

Clutch setting seems normal:

Clutch gap is 0.6 mm
Xray hard spring at 1.4 mm

How can I get this solved, every weekend new weights is expensive too.

Thanks

Measure the thickness of the pins from your flywheel, maybe they are worn out which causes play and so the flyweights will wear out faster.

D-nicest 03-16-2009 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Rico890 (Post 5557298)
Hi,

The last few weekends I'm having some problems with the fly weigths of the clutch.

After some runs the weigth holes are turning oval or there is even a crack at het side.

Clutch setting seems normal:

Clutch gap is 0.6 mm
Xray hard spring at 1.4 mm

How can I get this solved, every weekend new weights is expensive too.

Thanks

Your clutch setting could be a little too aggresive which is okay. You can lessen up the clutch gap so that the weights dont take as long to engage. I personally cut the weights by the hole, which lightens up the clutch. When cutting the weights u won't have an issue with the holes breaking cause there won't be any, but you'll have to probably go farther down on the spring. You should see an improvement in perforamance when cutting them though.:nod:

DS Motorsport 03-16-2009 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by aussies1129 (Post 5556153)
yep, I might try 40rear and see how it goes but most companies dont keep 40 in stock:confused:

also those people runnning lipo where are you putting your regulators on your car??

cheers:)

Here are the pictures of how i mounted it.
Don't mind all the lead, i've got the car down to 1598 grams and the 4mm chassis plate and brass tray weren't delivered on time so i had to put 105 grams of lead somewhere on the car. :smile:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t/100_2774.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t/100_2775.jpg

rcfoolz 03-16-2009 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by DS Motorsport (Post 5558714)
Here are the pictures of how i mounted it.
Don't mind all the lead, i've got the car down to 1598 grams and the 4mm chassis plate and brass tray weren't delivered on time so i had to put 105 grams of lead somewhere on the car. :smile:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t/100_2774.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t/100_2775.jpg

I see the delrin pillow ball nuts and the 2.2gram brake disk. :nod: Let me know how that brake disk holds up.....I hadn't gotten one yet.
thanks

rx7ttlm 03-16-2009 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by rcfoolz (Post 5558874)
I see the delrin pillow ball nuts and the 2.2gram brake disk. :nod: Let me know how that brake disk holds up.....I hadn't gotten one yet.
thanks

those pillow ball nuts are AMAZING lol

Joey4875 03-16-2009 06:20 PM

Has anyone put a 20 gram weight in the front of the car to get it to stop pushing?

Gseventeen 03-16-2009 06:43 PM

WHERE?
 

Originally Posted by aussies1129 (Post 5556153)
yep, I might try 40rear and see how it goes but most companies dont keep 40 in stock:confused:

also those people runnning lipo where are you putting your regulators on your car??

cheers:)

I running exceed lipo and regulator, and it all fits snug in receiver box ,if you have trouble just keep moving them aroundthey will fit, i can even take the rubber cap of and check my regulator light to make shore charge not to low .

D-nicest 03-16-2009 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Joey4875 (Post 5559249)
Has anyone put a 20 gram weight in the front of the car to get it to stop pushing?

The main reason the car would push, is probably due to setup. I know when using the light weight solid spool up front many add one of the Hudy 10g weights into the front bumper to make up for the weight loss in that area. What track do run at... 301?

Joey4875 03-16-2009 07:24 PM

I saw that last year on a couple of cars at the track (301). I just made the jump from the kyosho and I just got my 09 NT1 put together I haven't even drivin it yet. A guy at the track was telling me to put a 20 gram weight on the lower bumper or the car would push,but now I see why thanks for the info testing it out Wednesday afternoon can't wait

D-nicest 03-16-2009 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Joey4875 (Post 5559581)
I saw that last year on a couple of cars at the track (301). I just made the jump from the kyosho and I just got my 09 NT1 put together I haven't even drivin it yet. A guy at the track was telling me to put a 20 gram weight on the lower bumper or the car would push,but now I see why thanks for the info testing it out Wednesday afternoon can't wait

Cool congrats on the new ride and have fun. I should be making the trip down there soon, just holla if you ever have any questions.;)

kcrunchone 03-16-2009 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by D-nicest (Post 5559649)
Cool congrats on the new ride and have fun. I should be making the trip down there soon, just holla if you ever have any questions.;)

Whats up Diatta ??
I need a reciever box ;):nod: U have an extra one hanging around ??

D-nicest 03-16-2009 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by kcrunchone (Post 5559695)
Whats up Diatta ??
I need a reciever box ;):nod: U have an extra one hanging around ??

Rick What's up longtime no see... Yeah I have one for you, what are you running these days anyway?

rx7ttlm 03-16-2009 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by Gseventeen (Post 5559357)
I running exceed lipo and regulator, and it all fits snug in receiver box ,if you have trouble just keep moving them aroundthey will fit, i can even take the rubber cap of and check my regulator light to make shore charge not to low .

what Reciever are you running with the regulator? (trying to figure out if my ko 2.4 is small enough to do that)

kcrunchone 03-16-2009 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by D-nicest (Post 5559715)
Rick What's up longtime no see... Yeah I have one for you, what are you running these days anyway?

Still hooked on the MTX... See U soon as the weather breaks... Lately it has been either screwy weather or just to cold. Going to start working on my engines this week coming:flaming::flaming:

D-nicest 03-16-2009 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by kcrunchone (Post 5559772)
Still hooked on the MTX... See U soon as the weather breaks... Lately it has been either screwy weather or just to cold. Going to start working on my engines this week coming:flaming::flaming:

Sounds like you're going to be back in full force this season... What Ureally need is an Xray though ;):D:lol:

kcrunchone 03-16-2009 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by D-nicest (Post 5559790)
Sounds like you're going to be back in full force this season... What Ureally need is an Xray though ;):D:lol:

I like the Mugen but I think if I could put servos on a rock I would be having fun. Liking the car is a plus...:tire::nod:

Gseventeen 03-17-2009 01:57 AM

spectrum
 

Originally Posted by rx7ttlm (Post 5559759)
what Reciever are you running with the regulator? (trying to figure out if my ko 2.4 is small enough to do that)

Just running the standard spectrum reciever not the mini size you can get these days. I ts a tight fit but it does fit even with a lot of the wires stuffed in there as well,just take your time and try a few diff configeration and you should get it in the end. Certainly better than having it where the guy in the photo has got it,you only have to get some doofus pitting for you that misses the fuel tank more times than he gets it and, FIRE FIRE :flaming::lol:

Gseventeen 03-17-2009 02:01 AM

LOL
 

Originally Posted by kcrunchone (Post 5559861)
I like the Mugen but I think if I could put servos on a rock I would be having fun. Liking the car is a plus...:tire::nod:

Psst, psst, want to buy a cheap rock,just needs motor and servo's:lol::sneaky

aussies1129 03-17-2009 02:27 AM


Originally Posted by rx7ttlm (Post 5559759)
what Reciever are you running with the regulator? (trying to figure out if my ko 2.4 is small enough to do that)

I am using the spektrum pro and trying to fit that with the regulator and also the switch on the side will be to tight a fit for me unless I go spektrum micro? it would be great to fit it all in!:nod:
cheers

_cyclops_ 03-17-2009 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by rx7ttlm (Post 5555905)
Permatex Ultra black RTV. its found at just about every auto parts store I have ever walked into.

And now to find the european version of that :)

Thanks :)

godzukihop 03-17-2009 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by D-nicest (Post 5559383)
The main reason the car would push, is probably due to setup. I know when using the light weight solid spool up front many add one of the Hudy 10g weights into the front bumper to make up for the weight loss in that area. What track do run at... 301?

Any pics on this mod?

DS Motorsport 03-17-2009 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by Gseventeen (Post 5560859)
Just running the standard spectrum reciever not the mini size you can get these days. I ts a tight fit but it does fit even with a lot of the wires stuffed in there as well,just take your time and try a few diff configeration and you should get it in the end. Certainly better than having it where the guy in the photo has got it,you only have to get some doofus pitting for you that misses the fuel tank more times than he gets it and, FIRE FIRE :flaming::lol:

The change of it catching fire is very slim, it's actually quite hard to put our fuel on fire out in the open. Another guy at our club has been running the exact same setup for 2 years without a single problem.
And too bad for you that you have someone pitting for you who is a doofus, i don't.

Originally Posted by godzukihop (Post 5561293)
Any pics on this mod?

It's pretty easy, just cut a bit of foam out at the bottom of the bumper, then you can put the weight between the lower bumper plate and the bumper itself. I run 25 grams of lead in the front.

rx7ttlm 03-17-2009 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by _cyclops_ (Post 5560938)
And now to find the european version of that :)

Thanks :)

its oil resistant RTV sealant. you should be able to find it in your parts shops there. find something that they use to seal oil pans. cheers

RC MARKET 03-17-2009 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by rcfoolz (Post 5558874)
I see the delrin pillow ball nuts and the 2.2gram brake disk. :nod: Let me know how that brake disk holds up.....I hadn't gotten one yet.
thanks

By CSO
http://rcmarket.com.hk/product_info....oducts_id=5346

asw7576 03-17-2009 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by _cyclops_ (Post 5560938)
And now to find the european version of that :)

Thanks :)

Loctite or Teroson brand by Henkel International.

http://hybris.cms.henkel.com/medias/...7833328144.jpg

http://hybris.cms.henkel.com/medias/...7833336032.jpg

( Btw, I think Permatex brand is still the best for gasket sealant )

Rico890 03-17-2009 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by DS Motorsport (Post 5557369)
Measure the thickness of the pins from your flywheel, maybe they are worn out which causes play and so the flyweights will wear out faster.

The flywheel is new (was the shake down of the new nt1 09).

On the NT1 08 I had the same problem, I have tried too cut down the white shoe in pieces with and without holes.
The shoes without holes seems inconsistent.

I like an agressive clutch, does somebody else have any thoughts on this.

Thanks.

TomB 03-17-2009 06:10 PM

for the people who are saying that you need 20grams of extra weight at the front, just buy the hard foam xray bumper. it is approx 20 grams heavier than the stock one, problem solved, used with the wider plastic bumper you should get the extra weight easy.


regarding the regulators. Novaks regulator is probably the smallest. i have a spectrum micro and the novak and it fits exactly in the footprint of the mugen mtx4 reciever holder. i've modified my NT1 to fit the mugen holder onto the xray CF reciever plate to reduce weight. (you need to drill a hole in the plate, and use a screw to hold the mugen mtx4 cover and the mount).

rcfoolz 03-17-2009 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Rico890 (Post 5562680)
The flywheel is new (was the shake down of the new nt1 09).

On the NT1 08 I had the same problem, I have tried too cut down the white shoe in pieces with and without holes.
The shoes without holes seems inconsistent.

I like an agressive clutch, does somebody else have any thoughts on this.

Thanks.

If you run too much end play in with the clutch, the weights seem to wear/crack on the inside. Try running the clutch bell .2mm off the shoe and .2 for the end play. This seems to have solved the issue I was having and have been running the clutch now for over 2 gallons. If you are using the aluminum clutch bell, after each run, recheck the amount of gap the bell is off the shoe, as the aluminum will wear down.

mrgsr 03-17-2009 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by TomB (Post 5564108)
for the people who are saying that you need 20grams of extra weight at the front, just buy the hard foam xray bumper. it is approx 20 grams heavier than the stock one, problem solved, used with the wider plastic bumper you should get the extra weight easy.


regarding the regulators. Novaks regulator is probably the smallest. i have a spectrum micro and the novak and it fits exactly in the footprint of the mugen mtx4 reciever holder. i've modified my NT1 to fit the mugen holder onto the xray CF reciever plate to reduce weight. (you need to drill a hole in the plate, and use a screw to hold the mugen mtx4 cover and the mount).



TomB is the only driver i know that puts parts from all sorts of cars to the brand lol

TomB 03-18-2009 04:02 AM


Originally Posted by mrgsr (Post 5564227)
TomB is the only driver i know that puts parts from all sorts of cars to the brand lol

remember when you tryed to run a JLred dot:sneaky::p:lol:

RayJ 03-18-2009 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by DS Motorsport (Post 5558714)
Here are the pictures of how i mounted it.
Don't mind all the lead, i've got the car down to 1598 grams and the 4mm chassis plate and brass tray weren't delivered on time so i had to put 105 grams of lead somewhere on the car. :smile:

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t/100_2774.jpg

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...t/100_2775.jpg

Have you run the car with the weights in it yet? I also used weights attached with servo tape, and the weights got chucked all over the track. Combine that with a little spilled fuel which dissolves the glue on the servo tape, and you have a mess on your hands.

aussies1129 03-18-2009 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by RayJ (Post 5565916)
Have you run the car with the weights in it yet? I also used weights attached with servo tape, and the weights got chucked all over the track. Combine that with a little spilled fuel which dissolves the glue on the servo tape, and you have a mess on your hands.

yep I can definately see that happening best thing maybe is to drill a small hole into the weights and try and put a screw in there are some holes for the xray weights try and use them.:)
cheers


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