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robert maestrey 09-25-2007 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii (Post 3705808)
Bummer! I'm kind of surprised that you're having mileage issues with the Werks fuel. Are you running the standard head clearance or have you lowered it a bit?

standard...

teamgp 09-25-2007 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by GK (Post 3705610)
2,3,4 finish at NYSC, TQ + 3rd at I95 showdown week ago at 301 raceway (2 more NT1's in A ;))... That's all I know as far as northeast goes.

Thats about it for where I've been. :)

AddictedToRacin 09-26-2007 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii (Post 3705516)
I've been waiting for some NT1 race reports from this past weekend, but nobody seems to be posting anything... ?? :weird:

DS Motorsport / rcfoolz / teamgp / anybody else ~ You guys got anything to share with us? :D

Here in Germany we had the south german championship:
1.Christoph Pietsch GPX4 / OS / UFRA
2.Thomas Günsel NT1 / MH-Rex LR3 / Orcan
3.Michael Heinrich NT1 / MH-Rex LR3
4.Felix Bischoff GPX4 / OS
5.Sebastian Feller NT1 / MH-Rex LR3
6.Mattias Feldt ?
7.Manuel Dietrich 720
8.Heinz Rosenberger ?
9.Marcel Friedel ?
10.Mark Pearson 720 / MH-Rex LR3

3 NT1 raced and 3 finished in the Top5
I could be better but had a flame out and same thing goes to Michael Heinrich and Thomas Günsel. Some bad luck for us 3 but for that we had a good finish :D

asw7576 09-26-2007 03:43 AM

GPX4 is OFNA cars right ? :lol::lol:

lim 09-28-2007 03:24 AM

someone know if there is a new edition or an update of nt1 in next months?
thank you!

jonrg 09-28-2007 03:50 AM

Simple answer is NO!!!!!!

YBSLOW 09-28-2007 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by brianhatesnitro (Post 3705565)
No racing in houston last weekend, the nationals track was resurfaced again and it's less bumpy with absolutely crazy tire wear. 42/45's lasted about 11 minutes from 61/63mm to 56/55mm with about 1.2mm split left to right

I had to go two springs heavier than I previously used here before due to the amount of additional traction though.

Thats not good.....................

AddictedToRacin 09-28-2007 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by asw7576 (Post 3707698)
GPX4 is OFNA cars right ? :lol::lol:

Well, basically it is a Hyper Car but Christoph just rebuild the whole car with an own groundplate, all alu Bulkheads and therefore a very free drivetrain etc. etc.
So you don't see many Hyper Parts at the car :D
But Felix drove a nearly box stock car.

asw7576 09-28-2007 12:01 PM

I just bought XT8 truggy yo hehehe.

http://www.rc-junkies.nl/gallery3/al..._XT8/XT8-7.jpg

Osiris 75 10-01-2007 06:52 AM

Has anyone had gear stripping issues? I definitely want to take care of this before the Nationals! :(

brianhatesnitro 10-01-2007 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by Osiris 75 (Post 3721792)
Has anyone had gear stripping issues? I definitely want to take care of this before the Nationals! :(

It's just gear mesh, don't believe that you don't have to set it and ensure that the gears are straight.

You have to loosen all 8 screws in the mount and the engine tabs and get the mesh right.

rmdhawaii 10-01-2007 01:26 PM

Any NT1 race reports from this past weekend?

Our club doesn't race again for another 3 weeks! :cry:

bvoltz 10-01-2007 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Osiris 75 (Post 3721792)
Has anyone had gear stripping issues? I definitely want to take care of this before the Nationals! :(

Here is how I set mesh... No mesh... By the second lap, you have perfect mesh... It wears in very nicely...:D

bvoltz 10-01-2007 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by brianhatesnitro (Post 3705565)
No racing in houston last weekend, the nationals track was resurfaced again and it's less bumpy with absolutely crazy tire wear. 42/45's lasted about 11 minutes from 61/63mm to 56/55mm with about 1.2mm split left to right

I had to go two springs heavier than I previously used here before due to the amount of additional traction though.

That is what I heard also... from one of the racers from the RC Pro race this weekend... I heard they used up 2mm in 5 mins, but I do not know what the wear was like on 42s or 45s.

Ryan41 10-01-2007 03:00 PM

Finally had a NT1 going at our track..and it won its first race :D Mine will be all ready to race next week :D

mtveten 10-02-2007 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii (Post 3722768)
Any NT1 race reports from this past weekend?

Our club doesn't race again for another 3 weeks! :cry:

Our seasons over here but the after a summer of our NT1s showing solid performance on a consistent basis, I don't expect to see many Mugen or Kyosho rides next year. Most of the K & M runners I spoke too at my last couple races were already planning on switching to X-ray next year. Just like everything else what wins on Sunday sells on Monday. I was the fastest NT1 runner all summer and have been very happy with the car but the MTX and RRRs showed just as much potential as my X-Ray.

Mark

rmdhawaii 10-02-2007 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by mtveten (Post 3726769)
Our seasons over here but the after a summer of our NT1s showing solid performance on a consistent basis, I don't expect to see many Mugen or Kyosho rides next year. Most of the K & M runners I spoke too at my last couple races were already planning on switching to X-ray next year. Just like everything else what wins on Sunday sells on Monday. I was the fastest NT1 runner all summer and have been very happy with the car but the MTX and RRRs showed just as much potential as my X-Ray.

Mark

That would be pretty funny if most everyone switched to the NT1. It would certainly eliminate the "Is it me or my gear?" debate. :lol:

How does your performance this season compare to last season? Do you think the chassis made that much of a difference? Were you running the same engine last season? If not, how much do you think the engine contributed to your performance?

teamgp 10-02-2007 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii (Post 3722768)
Any NT1 race reports from this past weekend?

Our club doesn't race again for another 3 weeks! :cry:

A certain NT1 took 1st, for the second time in the last four races, this past weekend at 301 Raceway. :D

brianhatesnitro 10-02-2007 05:00 PM

I keep looking at all of these non-usa setup sheets on the xray site and a ton of people run the front diff with 300k oil, why wouldn't they just run a spool instead and save the weight?

teamgp 10-02-2007 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by brianhatesnitro (Post 3727286)
I keep looking at all of these non-usa setup sheets on the xray site and a ton of people run the front diff with 300k oil, why wouldn't they just run a spool instead and save the weight?

I can't speak for them, but I'm running Racers Edge 500k oil up front and it makes a difference over the spool in off power steering.

With the weight of the car shifting forward, the diff action actually works just enough to gain noticeably more entry and mid corner (off-power) steering. Then when you get on the gas and the weight shifts rearward, the heavy oil locks up the diff and you maintain the same type of exit steering that a spool would give you.

You just have to try it and see for yourself. ;)

MBlackketter 10-02-2007 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by brianhatesnitro (Post 3727286)
I keep looking at all of these non-usa setup sheets on the xray site and a ton of people run the front diff with 300k oil, why wouldn't they just run a spool instead and save the weight?

They don't have near the traction we do in the states. So they tend to have less aggressive setups then we do here. Make sense?

We have ran almost then same setup at 3 different tracks. So when we find the sweet spot we just fine tune it.

Mark

asw7576 10-02-2007 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by brianhatesnitro (Post 3727286)
I keep looking at all of these non-usa setup sheets on the xray site and a ton of people run the front diff with 300k oil, why wouldn't they just run a spool instead and save the weight?

I think it's track layout and grip dependent. For instance, We are using front one way setup for our home track. Using the front gear diff noticeably give some push on throttle.

Our home track consists fast corners in the form of S corners, parabolic and sweepers, with very high grip on big race event.

rmdhawaii 10-03-2007 12:13 AM


Originally Posted by teamgp (Post 3726961)
A certain NT1 took 1st, for the second time in the last four races, this past weekend at 301 Raceway. :D

Are you just trying to be modest? :weird:

It's okay to admit that you won something. How about some details? :D

B4 10-03-2007 01:33 AM

Just about to buy the NT1 can you please tell me what springs come with the car. We have a low traction track with a couple of mild bumps so I would like to order the correct springs. Do the latest kits come with the hard foam bumper.

Thanks

initialrays 10-03-2007 05:04 AM

XRay Alum Shock set aleady on sales.but only 1 pair in the box.give one more pair is better.....(Must buy Items!!)


http://www.rc-union.com/product_info...ducts_id=11067

teamgp 10-03-2007 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii (Post 3728538)
Are you just trying to be modest? :weird:

It's okay to admit that you won something. How about some details? :D

Yep. However, I've been waiting for the results to be posted in order to do a correct debrief. Seeing the lap times always jogs my memory on the details.

Overall, the competition was pretty close with the top 5 drivers (1 NT1, 1 Kyosho, 2 Mugens and 1 Serpent) having a similar pace. I missed out on TQ by 1 second to the Kyosho :cry: and had to start the main in second.

During the main, I was pushed wide in the first corner and crossed the line in 6th place on the 1st lap. However, after the first pit stop (30m main) I was able to gain the lead as there were some flameouts, wrecks and such with the other drivers. I was anxious after losing five positions in the first corner though and I ended up performing a few bump passes, which I'm not really proud of. :(

My car wasn't the fastest for any single lap, but it was the easiest to drive consistently fast lap after lap. The only thing that slowed me down was a badly chunked right rear about halfway through the main. I originally thought the cars handling went off because the track was suddenly cast in shadow and the grip came up. However, after looking at the car at home I discovered the chunked rear tire. :rolleyes:

FYI, for the past month I have been running an SL3 with a very slightly self-modified crank and head button. The motor had more RPM, but I had a tough time making run-time and keeping it cool & fast. This past weekend, I put in a stock crank (M.F. modified of course) and head button, geared it up a little more, and the SL3 was just as fast but made run-time and ran cooler. I think I'll leave the SL3 modifications alone from now on. This motor is fast enough. :o :D

mtveten 10-03-2007 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by rmdhawaii (Post 3726819)
That would be pretty funny if most everyone switched to the NT1. It would certainly eliminate the "Is it me or my gear?" debate. :lol:

How does your performance this season compare to last season? Do you think the chassis made that much of a difference? Were you running the same engine last season? If not, how much do you think the engine contributed to your performance?

More than 1/2 have already made the switch or have their old car up for sale to do so.

Last season was my first year running gas and it took me a while figure things out, but once I got going things went well and I was competitive with a G4s. Last year I had long run reliability issue largely due to me racing like I would a 5min electric main. This season I learned more about nitro setup, motor tuning, and long sting strategy and improved accordingly. The magic was a good car but it was expensive with all the modification it needed and I just couldn't get it to work low grip sealed tracks like the Mugen & Kyosho cars did. We do have 1 euro style track out here and around that circuit it was better than anything else including my NT1. As for my engine I bought a Mega MF Masmo last year and ran it again this season. With my Mega in need of a new p/s set I picked up a sub $200 motor for the last couple of races and plan on running it for club races next year.

when it comes to cub racers most just want something that works where someone else can give them a setup that works. At my home track setup help only come in the the NT1 & RRR variety and the X-Ray having local parts support its the clear winner. The other nitro club going strong the region was almost exclusivity Kyosho but again x-ray parts support is better in the area and the racers with the greatest improvement has come from an NT1 runner I have been helping with setup.

Mark

rmdhawaii 10-03-2007 01:17 PM

Guy ~ Thanks for the details. Congrats on the win. :)

As I'm sure you know, when qualifying is really close, the mistakes and misfortune of your competitors often helps you move up or regain lost positions. Don't you just love how that works out some times? :D

Like you pointed out, being consistent was the key. IMO, Toso won last year's ROAR Nats with the 720 because he had the most consistent lap times and pit stops (very important) and didn't have any mishaps. Not changing tires also helped! :ha:

rmdhawaii 10-03-2007 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by mtveten (Post 3729924)
More than 1/2 have already made the switch or have their old car up for sale to do so.

Last season was my first year running gas and it took me a while figure things out, but once I got going things went well and I was competitive with a G4s. Last year I had long run reliability issue largely due to me racing like I would a 5min electric main. This season I learned more about nitro setup, motor tuning, and long sting strategy and improved accordingly. The magic was a good car but it was expensive with all the modification it needed and I just couldn't get it to work low grip sealed tracks like the Mugen & Kyosho cars did. We do have 1 euro style track out here and around that circuit it was better than anything else including my NT1. As for my engine I bought a Mega MF Masmo last year and ran it again this season. With my Mega in need of a new p/s set I picked up a sub $200 motor for the last couple of races and plan on running it for club races next year.

when it comes to cub racers most just want something that works where someone else can give them a setup that works. At my home track setup help only come in the the NT1 & RRR variety and the X-Ray having local parts support its the clear winner. The other nitro club going strong the region was almost exclusivity Kyosho but again x-ray parts support is better in the area and the racers with the greatest improvement has come from an NT1 runner I have been helping with setup.

Mark

Thanks. You know Mark, I never realized that this was only your 2nd season running nitro. I was always under the impression that you have been running nitro for years! :sweat: :lol:

GK 10-03-2007 01:45 PM

And look at Guy - his first year running nitro :nod: (BTW, congrats on your win roomie!)
I've noticed quite a few electric drivers picking up nitro after Xray released their NT1. That's a good thing. Also the competition level has increased since the average electric driver has better driving skills than an average nitro-only driver. Everybody stepped up their game. Too bad the season is over, one more nitro race for me :(

dj apolaro 10-03-2007 02:24 PM

"the average electric driver has better driving skills than an average nitro-only driver"

Thats not nice!!!!!!!!!:eek::smile:

GK 10-03-2007 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by dj apolaro (Post 3730360)
"the average electric driver has better driving skills than an average nitro-only driver"
Thats not nice!!!!!!!!!:eek::smile:

There are few exceptions, but it's true in most cases ;)

teamgp 10-03-2007 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by dj apolaro (Post 3730360)
"the average electric driver has better driving skills than an average nitro-only driver"

Thats not nice!!!!!!!!!:eek::smile:

I plead the fifth. No comment. :D

Gitsum 10-03-2007 08:58 PM

I think I need to race this Teamgp guy and put some pressure on him...:batman:

asw7576 10-04-2007 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by Gitsum (Post 3731502)
I think I need to race this Teamgp guy and put some pressure on him...:batman:

I think teamgp is a xray international team drivers ( looking at his avatar ) ..... Are you sure you can put adequate pressure on him ( team driver ) ?

teamgp 10-04-2007 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by Gitsum (Post 3731502)
I think I need to race this Teamgp guy and put some pressure on him...:batman:

I have enough already. :D

You going to Kissimmee?

B4 10-04-2007 06:45 AM

Hi Guys,

Just about to buy the NT1 can you please tell me what springs come with the car. We have a low traction track with a couple of mild bumps so I would like to order the correct springs. Do the latest kits also come with the hard foam bumper.

Thanks

GK 10-04-2007 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by teamgp (Post 3732603)
I have enough already. :D

You going to Kissimmee?

Why don't you come to our regionals this sunday since you have nothing better to do...

teamgp 10-04-2007 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by asw7576 (Post 3732001)
I think teamgp is a xray international team drivers ( looking at his avatar ) ..... Are you sure you can put adequate pressure on him ( team driver ) ?

asw, I'm not an international team driver. I work for XRAY HQ as part of their customer support team. ;o)

D-nicest 10-04-2007 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by B4 (Post 3732615)
Hi Guys,

Just about to buy the NT1 can you please tell me what springs come with the car. We have a low traction track with a couple of mild bumps so I would like to order the correct springs. Do the latest kits also come with the hard foam bumper.

Thanks

The springs that come with the car should be fine, you may have to mess around with roll center and droop to accomodate for the low traction, but those tuning options come with the kit so try and mess around with the car in stock form first. The silver springs come with the car, and I've never changed them out even when running on a parking lot track I still run those springs. Also the kit still come's with the regular foam bumper, not the hard.


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