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Old 11-04-2018, 06:05 AM
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I know there was a thread somewhere here that covers this subject, but I have been unable to find it.

What is generally used as track treatment spray besides sugar water. I feel sugar water only works for a short time and gives a weird type of grip. Using oil based treatments with castor oil for example seems to give a more ‘natural feel’ similar to an asphalt track that has lots of nitro cars running.

Normally grip comes up at a nitro venue due to the oils from the exhausts being spread on the track. Spraying a mix of methanol and castor oil before running starts might speed this up?

any tips on mixtures?

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Back in the Hobaho hallen they used a mix of methanol and castor oil.
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Check out your local industrial chem suppliers for Tackifier Resins. Type of things they use in hot-melt and tape adhesives.
Get a couple of samples and do some tests.
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Sample info here. https://www.lawter.com/products/asia...kifier-resins/
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Thanks for the suggestions guys
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sugar water is the worst think to use just like u said it last for a very short time and once the sun heats it up it becomes slimie and slippery, its 100000% worth every dollar spent to use vht and cut it with methanol start with 50/50 mix and try it and u can adjust from there also what your using to spray is going to play a big part in making a nice even coat on the track. if your track is sealed you don't have to over spray because the vht mix will sit on top, if unsealed you will want to spray alittle thicker coat because the mix sinks in.....
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Originally Posted by ralphierace13 View Post
sugar water is the worst think to use just like u said it last for a very short time and once the sun heats it up it becomes slimie and slippery, its 100000% worth every dollar spent to use vht and cut it with methanol start with 50/50 mix and try it and u can adjust from there also what your using to spray is going to play a big part in making a nice even coat on the track. if your track is sealed you don't have to over spray because the vht mix will sit on top, if unsealed you will want to spray alittle thicker coat because the mix sinks in.....
Good info Ralph I think that is all they use at the new track in Cali (Steel City) is sugar water, maybe next year they can try out VHT.
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An issue that they have in some places is that not just anything can be put down due to contamination. Some places aren’t too keen on things like methanol soaking into their asphalt and soil. There are some smart people involved in the operations of steel city. I bet there’s some reason that they aren’t using vht if they aren’t. Some places use soda or sugar water for smaller events and vht for bigger events due to costs.
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Good info Ralph I think that is all they use at the new track in Cali (Steel City) is sugar water, maybe next year they can try out VHT.
There's nothing wrong with the traction at SCS, no need to do anything different than they are now,
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VHT can affect track surfaces, especially if sealed. Over time it can break down the top coat, especially if sealcoated. There are some other VHT type of products out there like PH1 that claim to be less harmful. Snow cone syrup and water seem to work very well and is easy to apply. What you really want is some initial traction then the castor from the fuel will add to it.
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