RePeTe

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I would think the machines that make the molds dont care what country they are in. They are setup and calibrated and pop out whatever was input into them. Regardless of USA, JAPAN, MARS, CONGO.

hookem34

iTrader: (17)

True however not all machines are created equal. Machines in USA etc. tend to be the newest technology and therefore produce the best quality.

It's a known fact in the manufacturing business that most Asian countries do not use the most up to date technology or machinery.

hakmazter

That depends on who is running the machine also along with what version of programming, etc.....

I think you have a reasonable point, but are also grasping for straws at the same time.

Just for the sake of conversation,

What if you figure out that your machine is off by .05mm after using it for a while. If you add .05 into the programming, it would equal 0, correct?

What if the guy who has been programming for years at Kyosho leaves to go to Mugen?

What if the company switches brands of machine after a few years?

What if they cnc 50 chassis plates for Kyosho team and notice that 10 are not dead on perfect and then put them in the RTR pile?

Semple

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If being made in Asia was really that much of a detriment, don't you think that Xray would win absolutely everything?

Obviously Kyosho wins a lot in 1/8th buggy, but how much of that is car and how much is it Tebo/King/J.Aigoin?

BrakeTurnAccelerate

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A lot of Chinese companies use outdated machines and 2nd-rate, poorly cloned software to run their machines. Most top-tier CNC machines (USA, Japan, Euro) are capable of holding 0.001" tolerances, where most of the Chinese companies can only hold 0.004" - 0.008" or greater in terms of tolerances. If you're off by 0.005" on each piece that's 0.010" or 0.25mm of play. It adds up.. Especially in something as small as a RC Car.

But then again, it's less about the machines and more about the quality control, as hakmazter was trying to point out. To answer his question about 50 chassis plates being put in an RTR kit instead... It happens a lot more than people think. And they don't always get put in just the RTR kits. If they find out their machines were off 0.1mm after producing the molds.. Chances are they will not go fix the molds. If they find out their machines were off after a production run on 1000 bevel gears, they aren't going to fix them.

Being made in China isn't a detriment, until the lapses in quality affect your placing. Mugen 6T arms snap like a turkey wishbone, because of a molding process fault, which is a Quality Control issue.

In the grand scheme of things, tolerances really don't matter. Look at Losi for example. The 8ight is a slop-fest and it places well. Driver confidence in their car and their ability are by far the biggest factor in how well they finish. Tebo/King/Lutz/Hara/Savoya/Branham/Etc are much more the reason than Kyosho/Durango/HB/XRay/Agama/etc. Look at Savoya. He didn't have confidence in the Durango and suffered. Lutz has confidence and places extremely well with it.