P/S resizing and pinching
#16
I just pissed you off. Should i believe you
J/K
#18
Why not do it yourself ?
This can be bought at any (large) hardware store:
It is a clamp for a milling machine
This can be bought at any (large) hardware store:
It is a clamp for a milling machine
#19
#21
With such a small ring the results are even better, all the forces of the clamp are combined on the ring. Last week I pinched a sleeve for a friend, the piston could almost be pushed out on the top of the sleeve, it was far gone. After the pinch with this tool the piston could not be pushed further than just above the exhaust like a new P/S set.
Such an holder with the right size clamp will cost you about 80-90 dollars I think.
#22
that is very cool. It will take some looking around.
google here i come!
google here i come!
#23
O.S. probably laughs everytime someone orders and P/S
What happens when the piston keeps wearing down?? Just keep repinching?
What happens when the piston keeps wearing down?? Just keep repinching?
#24
If you have the tool you can always give it a try. A fellow clubmember has the tools from Ray and he is using a fresh enginge for the nationals and is using the pinched ones as spare, training and clubrace engine. His experience is up to 3 times but then it is not thad good....
#25
If you have the tool you can always give it a try. A fellow clubmember has the tools from Ray and he is using a fresh enginge for the nationals and is using the pinched ones as spare, training and clubrace engine. His experience is up to 3 times but then it is not thad good....
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Our hobby has several experienced people who can do this service for you. It's worth it to pay to have that done and done correct. I own a shop called the speed shop, we do this, engine rebuilds, bearing replacement, break ins, etc. Check us out, we have a thread in this forum. We have great references and do quality work.
You can also check with Ray, and the other guys mentioned on here like Dion.
Thanks,
AB
#27
Well, I am not the only one using this tool, there are more using this with succes. http://www.rctech.net/forum/exclusiv...inching-2.html
If you want to do it right you must also use a special grinding rock (do not know how to translate it) to make fresh scratches into the chrome layer and that one is also in order.
I just bought it trying to fix some old stuff I have and it is fun to learn, as mentioned I have used some real old (broken) stuff to understand how and now I know how.
And I understand your reaction, if anyone can do it there is no market anymore. The 15 dollar Ray is asking is a very good price but the hundreds of dollars for an own set is to expensive....
If you want to do it right you must also use a special grinding rock (do not know how to translate it) to make fresh scratches into the chrome layer and that one is also in order.
I just bought it trying to fix some old stuff I have and it is fun to learn, as mentioned I have used some real old (broken) stuff to understand how and now I know how.
And I understand your reaction, if anyone can do it there is no market anymore. The 15 dollar Ray is asking is a very good price but the hundreds of dollars for an own set is to expensive....
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Good explination Smokinu
Quote:
Originally Posted by dreaux
I was going to send one of my P/S sets away to rayaracing to get pinched.
1. is it worth it. Does it work well?
Like new again
2. How many gallons can you expect on average out of a resizing?
depends on how you run the motor another 5 gallons is easy.
3. How many times can you pinch it?
depending on the engine
2 or 3 times. really depends on the sleeve though.
Thanx
Let me chim in here and first elaborate a TAD the number of resizings per one piston + sleeve set.
We get "one" mabee "two" GOOD resizings out of a piston + sleeve set of approx 0.0004" each service. After 6-8 tenths geometric tolerance's between sleeve to case fit effected is hindered causing engine to loose a little snap. In testing an engine (going to extrems) with P+S set altered 12 or 13 tenths one thousandth an inch I found very noticeable its first 3 or 4 laps with ballistic (drop its nuts) performance on the track, and loose its nuts on the 5th lap or so. Note this is a set that damaged from air filter falling off once and a E clip another time requiring two times honing liner its 11 gallon history. Point here is I do alot of testing ....Good candidates along with worst case scenarios. Properly resized engines run very strong while in range if and when dimensioned corectly. Remember, a substandard resizing compromising good engine parts is something else to concider when selecting a resizing service. Ask to see a picture or vid of their equipement/process.
Originally Posted by dreaux
I was going to send one of my P/S sets away to rayaracing to get pinched.
1. is it worth it. Does it work well?
Like new again
2. How many gallons can you expect on average out of a resizing?
depends on how you run the motor another 5 gallons is easy.
3. How many times can you pinch it?
depending on the engine
2 or 3 times. really depends on the sleeve though.
Thanx
Let me chim in here and first elaborate a TAD the number of resizings per one piston + sleeve set.
We get "one" mabee "two" GOOD resizings out of a piston + sleeve set of approx 0.0004" each service. After 6-8 tenths geometric tolerance's between sleeve to case fit effected is hindered causing engine to loose a little snap. In testing an engine (going to extrems) with P+S set altered 12 or 13 tenths one thousandth an inch I found very noticeable its first 3 or 4 laps with ballistic (drop its nuts) performance on the track, and loose its nuts on the 5th lap or so. Note this is a set that damaged from air filter falling off once and a E clip another time requiring two times honing liner its 11 gallon history. Point here is I do alot of testing ....Good candidates along with worst case scenarios. Properly resized engines run very strong while in range if and when dimensioned corectly. Remember, a substandard resizing compromising good engine parts is something else to concider when selecting a resizing service. Ask to see a picture or vid of their equipement/process.
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Thanks for refering me CrazyFast1 and bigjayjay1. If you need my service I will be glad to help you out. You can email me for details at [email protected].
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Dion has the right tooling to do the job right
Thanks for refering me CrazyFast1 and bigjayjay1. If you need my service I will be glad to help you out. You can email me for details at [email protected].