Jammin X2-CR ?? (buggy?)
11-23-2008, 12:52 PM
#46
Unfortunately it doesn't look like those of us in the USA will be getting the conversion kit. I emailed [email protected] to see about when it would be available and they said it is for overseas customers only. I think since the conversion kits only cost around $200 but a complete kit cost around $600 they are just being greedy. I have supported Jammin for a long time and I am very unhappy about this. I may just keep running Jammin till I have used up my spares and then switch to a different brand. I really don't want to do that because I really like Jammin. Every time I am at a major race Jammin Jay and his crew have been very helpful with setups, advice and even free parts. I would encourage everyone to email [email protected] to complain about this decision. If I can get a link for an overseas website where I can order it I may do that as well. All you Jammin guys call Nitrohouse (the US distributer for Jammin) or email [email protected] to let them know you are unhappy about this, and any overseas racers, please post a link if you find an online source for the kit.
11-23-2008, 01:54 PM
#47
Tech Adept
i have been told by the uk importer smd that they willbe in the uk in the early new year dont know if you guys from the us would want to buy from here
the importer is spire model distribution the guy to email is jamie booth he also races so may be worth while getting in touch hope this helps
the importer is spire model distribution the guy to email is jamie booth he also races so may be worth while getting in touch hope this helps
11-23-2008, 03:08 PM
#48
just greedy .i'll just keep runnin g my x1cr not going to buy another whole kit.
how can you offer something overseas only.BULL CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!
how can you offer something overseas only.BULL CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!
11-26-2008, 11:24 AM
#49
I received a reply from Ofna today and they say Jay Halsey didn't approve the kit for the US because it did not have the new center diff mount.
For those of you that have received the kit, and built your new cars did you use the old mount and were there any problems? I can't believe there would be, plus you can purchase the new mount off Ebay for around $22, its the same one they are using in the X2 Truggy. And once again all you Jammin drivers please email [email protected] to let them know you are very unhappy about this. There may be another option though, I am working on Bill of BCE to come up with a new chassis for the Jammin Buggy that should be as good if not better than the Jammin one. Everyone that has driven a BCE conversion knows that Bill builds really good stuff. This is so short sighted of Jammin I can't believe it. If I didn't have such a huge amount of spares I would just switch brands.
For those of you that have received the kit, and built your new cars did you use the old mount and were there any problems? I can't believe there would be, plus you can purchase the new mount off Ebay for around $22, its the same one they are using in the X2 Truggy. And once again all you Jammin drivers please email [email protected] to let them know you are very unhappy about this. There may be another option though, I am working on Bill of BCE to come up with a new chassis for the Jammin Buggy that should be as good if not better than the Jammin one. Everyone that has driven a BCE conversion knows that Bill builds really good stuff. This is so short sighted of Jammin I can't believe it. If I didn't have such a huge amount of spares I would just switch brands.
11-26-2008, 11:39 AM
#50
conversion
AS of today as far as i can tell they posted THERE WILL BE A CONVERSION KIT OUT AROUND DEC 1ST , CHECK JAMMIN WEBSITE
11-26-2008, 12:31 PM
#51
The guy I emailed said he had spoke to a supervisor and there would not be a conversion kit for the US. Obviously the guy is clueless. This is great news.
It is very frustrating when you communicate with someone who supposedly knows what they are talking about then it turns out they don't.
It is very frustrating when you communicate with someone who supposedly knows what they are talking about then it turns out they don't.
11-26-2008, 12:51 PM
#52
I've been watching the talk about the conversion kit on the Grid, and my understanding is its on the way here. Hopefully this is true as I've seen and held the new buggy and would like to convert my old one. Love my Jammin but its time for an update. The new buggy's that are out are at least a half pound lighter than my old X1CR and I just can't keep up anymore. Crossing my fingers.
11-26-2008, 01:42 PM
#54
I received a reply from Ofna today and they say Jay Halsey didn't approve the kit for the US because it did not have the new center diff mount. For those of you that have received the kit, and built your new cars did you use the old mount and were there any problems? I can't believe there would be, plus you can purchase the new mount off Ebay for around $22, its the same one they are using in the X2 Truggy. And once again all you Jammin drivers please email [email protected] to let them know you are very unhappy about this. There may be another option though, I am working on Bill of BCE to come up with a new chassis for the Jammin Buggy that should be as good if not better than the Jammin one. Everyone that has driven a BCE conversion knows that Bill builds really good stuff. This is so short sighted of Jammin I can't believe it. If I didn't have such a huge amount of spares I would just switch brands.
For those of you that have received the kit, and built your new cars did you use the old mount and were there any problems? I can't believe there would be, plus you can purchase the new mount off Ebay for around $22, its the same one they are using in the X2 Truggy. And once again all you Jammin drivers please email [email protected] to let them know you are very unhappy about this. There may be another option though, I am working on Bill of BCE to come up with a new chassis for the Jammin Buggy that should be as good if not better than the Jammin one. Everyone that has driven a BCE conversion knows that Bill builds really good stuff. This is so short sighted of Jammin I can't believe it. If I didn't have such a huge amount of spares I would just switch brands.
11-26-2008, 07:31 PM
#55
11-26-2008, 10:19 PM
#56
For those of you that have your conversions, below you will find some questions I had for Chad Bradley and his response.
Hi Chad,
Got a couple of questions for you today.
1. How much different is your setup with the new chassis and could you post your setup from the World's? I noticed the Jammin guys were running different springs front and rear and non of the previous setups on the Jammin web site are like that.
2. When going through the X-2 Truggy manual I noticed that the diff assembly shows to use 2 shims on the small diff gears. The X-1 FTE Buggy manual shows using only 1 shim and the part numbers are the same for the gears in both manuals. Is there some reason to use 2 shims in the Truggy and only one in the Buggy or is this a change we should do regardless of the car that the diff is going in?
And his response.
#1 the setup is not much different however 2 main things are the springs and the rear hub is all the way foward on the new buggy I will post my worlds setup at the bottom of this message
#2 Yes with the new ring gear its safest to put 2 shims on each gear, you can do it on the buggy ring gear as well (X1 buggy). The X2 buggy uses the truck ring and pinion
Driver: Chad Bradley
Track: 2008 Ifmar World Championship North Carolina
Size: Open
Traction: Med
Surface: Med
Front
Shock Spring: Blue
Piston: 1.3x6 drilled
Oil: 37.5 Losi oil
Toe out: 1
Ride hight: arms level
Sway Bar: 2.5
Camber: -2
Caster Block: B
Front (Picture)
Shock location: #2 on tower; #2 on arm
Camber location: #2
Acerman: #2
Sway Bar Preload: 0mm
Rebound Stop: 26mm (measured from rear of front arm, opposite from picture)
Rear
Shock Spring: White
Shock Piston: 1.35 (drilled)
Shock Oil: 27.5 Losi oil
Ride Hight: Arms level
Sway Bar: 2.8
Camber: -3
Rear Hub: Plastic (foward Position)
Rear Hub Hinge Pin Hole: Lower
Toe Plate: 3
Antisquat Plate: 2
Rear Picture
Shock Location: #2 on tower; #2 on arm
Camber Link Location: #1 on Tower; #2 on Hub
Rebound Stop: 21mm
Rear Sway Bar Preload: 5-6mm
Wing Location: 1-1
Differential
Front : Std 5000
Center: Std 5000
Rear: Std 3000
Engine
Type: OS Speed
Pipe: OS 2060
Fuel: Werks 30%
Plug: P3 turbo
Tires
Front: Pro-Line Revolver, Std Foam, M3 compound
Rear: Pro-Line Revolver, Std Foam, M3 compound
Clutch
Shoe: Jammin/HN Red Aluminum x3
Spring: 1.0x2; 1.1x1
Gearing: 17/44
X2 Buggy Setup (Indoor Race) Washington
Driver: Chad Bradley
Track: Indoor Race Washington 2008
Size: Med
Traction: Med
Surface: Med
Front
Shock Spring: Blue
Piston: 1.4
Oil: 42.5 Losi oil
Toe out: 1
Ride hight: arms level
Sway Bar: 2.5
Camber: -2
Caster Block: B
Front (Picture)
Shock location: #2 on tower; #2 on arm
Camber location: #2
Acerman: #2
Sway Bar Preload: 0mm
Rebound Stop: 26mm (measured from rear of front arm, opposite from picture)
Rear
Shock Spring: White
Shock Piston: 1.3 (drilled)
Shock Oil: 30 Losi oil
Ride Hight: Arms level
Sway Bar: 2.8
Camber: -3
Rear Hub: Plastic (foward Position)
Rear Hub Hinge Pin Hole: Lower
Toe Plate: 3
Antisquat Plate: 2
Rear Picture
Shock Location: #2 on tower; #2 on arm
Camber Link Location: #1 on Tower; #2 on Hub
Rebound Stop: 21mm
Rear Sway Bar Preload: 5-6mm
Wing Location: 1-1
Differential
Front : Std 3000
Center: Std 3000
Rear: Std 3000
Engine
Type: OS Speed
Pipe: OS 2060
Fuel: Werks 30%
Plug: P3 turbo
Tires
Front: Pro-Line Hole Shot V3, Std Foam, M3 compound
Rear: Pro-Line Hole Shot V3, Std Foam, M3 compound
Clutch
Shoe: Jammin/HN Red Aluminum x3
Spring: 1.0x2; 1.1x1
Gearing: 17/44
You can also find some pictures of some other things he did to protect the carbon fiber shock towers here. http://www.neobuggy.net/uploads/newb...4ac004615e.jpg http://www.neobuggy.net/uploads/newb...4adde721cf.jpg
There is a little more info on the pics on Chads thread on Neo-Buggy. On the right side of the home page click where is says "visit forums" then under "Team Chat" click on "Ask Chad Bradley"
I hope you find this info useful.
Hi Chad,
Got a couple of questions for you today.
1. How much different is your setup with the new chassis and could you post your setup from the World's? I noticed the Jammin guys were running different springs front and rear and non of the previous setups on the Jammin web site are like that.
2. When going through the X-2 Truggy manual I noticed that the diff assembly shows to use 2 shims on the small diff gears. The X-1 FTE Buggy manual shows using only 1 shim and the part numbers are the same for the gears in both manuals. Is there some reason to use 2 shims in the Truggy and only one in the Buggy or is this a change we should do regardless of the car that the diff is going in?
And his response.
#1 the setup is not much different however 2 main things are the springs and the rear hub is all the way foward on the new buggy I will post my worlds setup at the bottom of this message
#2 Yes with the new ring gear its safest to put 2 shims on each gear, you can do it on the buggy ring gear as well (X1 buggy). The X2 buggy uses the truck ring and pinion
Driver: Chad Bradley
Track: 2008 Ifmar World Championship North Carolina
Size: Open
Traction: Med
Surface: Med
Front
Shock Spring: Blue
Piston: 1.3x6 drilled
Oil: 37.5 Losi oil
Toe out: 1
Ride hight: arms level
Sway Bar: 2.5
Camber: -2
Caster Block: B
Front (Picture)
Shock location: #2 on tower; #2 on arm
Camber location: #2
Acerman: #2
Sway Bar Preload: 0mm
Rebound Stop: 26mm (measured from rear of front arm, opposite from picture)
Rear
Shock Spring: White
Shock Piston: 1.35 (drilled)
Shock Oil: 27.5 Losi oil
Ride Hight: Arms level
Sway Bar: 2.8
Camber: -3
Rear Hub: Plastic (foward Position)
Rear Hub Hinge Pin Hole: Lower
Toe Plate: 3
Antisquat Plate: 2
Rear Picture
Shock Location: #2 on tower; #2 on arm
Camber Link Location: #1 on Tower; #2 on Hub
Rebound Stop: 21mm
Rear Sway Bar Preload: 5-6mm
Wing Location: 1-1
Differential
Front : Std 5000
Center: Std 5000
Rear: Std 3000
Engine
Type: OS Speed
Pipe: OS 2060
Fuel: Werks 30%
Plug: P3 turbo
Tires
Front: Pro-Line Revolver, Std Foam, M3 compound
Rear: Pro-Line Revolver, Std Foam, M3 compound
Clutch
Shoe: Jammin/HN Red Aluminum x3
Spring: 1.0x2; 1.1x1
Gearing: 17/44
X2 Buggy Setup (Indoor Race) Washington
Driver: Chad Bradley
Track: Indoor Race Washington 2008
Size: Med
Traction: Med
Surface: Med
Front
Shock Spring: Blue
Piston: 1.4
Oil: 42.5 Losi oil
Toe out: 1
Ride hight: arms level
Sway Bar: 2.5
Camber: -2
Caster Block: B
Front (Picture)
Shock location: #2 on tower; #2 on arm
Camber location: #2
Acerman: #2
Sway Bar Preload: 0mm
Rebound Stop: 26mm (measured from rear of front arm, opposite from picture)
Rear
Shock Spring: White
Shock Piston: 1.3 (drilled)
Shock Oil: 30 Losi oil
Ride Hight: Arms level
Sway Bar: 2.8
Camber: -3
Rear Hub: Plastic (foward Position)
Rear Hub Hinge Pin Hole: Lower
Toe Plate: 3
Antisquat Plate: 2
Rear Picture
Shock Location: #2 on tower; #2 on arm
Camber Link Location: #1 on Tower; #2 on Hub
Rebound Stop: 21mm
Rear Sway Bar Preload: 5-6mm
Wing Location: 1-1
Differential
Front : Std 3000
Center: Std 3000
Rear: Std 3000
Engine
Type: OS Speed
Pipe: OS 2060
Fuel: Werks 30%
Plug: P3 turbo
Tires
Front: Pro-Line Hole Shot V3, Std Foam, M3 compound
Rear: Pro-Line Hole Shot V3, Std Foam, M3 compound
Clutch
Shoe: Jammin/HN Red Aluminum x3
Spring: 1.0x2; 1.1x1
Gearing: 17/44
You can also find some pictures of some other things he did to protect the carbon fiber shock towers here. http://www.neobuggy.net/uploads/newb...4ac004615e.jpg http://www.neobuggy.net/uploads/newb...4adde721cf.jpg
There is a little more info on the pics on Chads thread on Neo-Buggy. On the right side of the home page click where is says "visit forums" then under "Team Chat" click on "Ask Chad Bradley"
I hope you find this info useful.
12-01-2008, 11:48 AM
#57
Anybody looking for the Hong Nor X2 conversion kit for the Jammin buggy it is available on EBay. Follow this link http://cgi.ebay.com/X2-CR-Conversion-Kit_W0QQitemZ280289944637QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRadio_ Control_Parts_Accessories?hash=item280289944637&_t rksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1| 240%3A1318
12-01-2008, 03:57 PM
#59
I called Nitro House today thay said the x2cr buggy might be in next week ,price 600.00 to 650.00 they werent sure
12-02-2008, 10:24 PM
#60
Looks like Nitrohouse has the conversion kit in stock ready to ship.
Check it out http://www.nitrohouse.com/catalog/pr...ducts_id=20183
Check it out http://www.nitrohouse.com/catalog/pr...ducts_id=20183