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Old 09-08-2008, 03:48 AM
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All new pictures on Mugen's website. Still none of the body
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Don't know if this was mentioned, but do you notice the plastic brace in front and aluminum brace in back? Also, the bottom ball joint has aluminum in the bottom front A-arm. Not sure if the RR had that. It looks good....

Also, I wonder did they consider electric setup for this car.
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Originally Posted by teeforb
Don't know if this was mentioned, but do you notice the plastic brace in front and aluminum brace in back? Also, the bottom ball joint has aluminum in the bottom front A-arm. Not sure if the RR had that. It looks good....

Also, I wonder did they consider electric setup for this car.
read vray's comments on neobuggy and i dont think so on the electric. not really much of a market for the electric 1/8 off road buggy, although with electric offroad #'s low and the drivers switching over to nitro im starting to see more e 1/8 cars. the tech. is getting better and its only a matter of time till the always tuned right, smooth power,no mess,class becomes the way to go.
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Originally Posted by Boz
Don't know about the internal parts, but the diff gear is now a 44t gear (was 40t) 13t on the bevel gear (was 12t) spur 46t and pinion 13t.

A good chance no.
Do you know for sure that these gear sizes are accurate? There's very little difference between the old and new in terms of ratio (3.33 old, 3.38 new) and I bet Mugen knows that using a larger clutch bell is advantageous over the traditional 13t/46t setup.
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Body shot:



Although i'm yet to see it person, I reckon an MBX5R body cut to fit may end up looking better. The thinner body looks kinda funny to me.
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You could certainly put the old body on the car but there would be a gap between the mud guards and the body which the front tires would shovel dirt into. Judging by what I've seen so far it appears that fitting several of the larger volume pipes under the body/mudguards is going to be a little difficult.

The body in that pic may be the older MBX4.
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I have heard the MBX6 will be much lighter than the 5R. Any truth to this? If so how much lighter?
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Originally Posted by Davidka
Do you know for sure that these gear sizes are accurate? There's very little difference between the old and new in terms of ratio (3.33 old, 3.38 new) and I bet Mugen knows that using a larger clutch bell is advantageous over the traditional 13t/46t setup.
I suggest you sit down with a calculator Davidka.

Mugen’s has already told us the ratio, so it’s not that hard to workout.

So if you can find a gear combination using a 14T pinion, then publish your results.

I’m waiting?

So what is the advantage of using a 14t pinion? Since you "bet Mugen knows" the advantage.
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I arrived at those ratios with a calculator. I think you'll understand what I mean when you take your own advice.

A gear tooth is not a fixed value, it is a percentage of the circumpherence of a circle. If a car uses larger tooth counts on the cb to arrive at the same final drive ratio then the difference from a 14-15- or 16 is less than the difference from a 12-13-or 14. This is why when a car is geared in the traditional manner you only find people using a 13/46. People even go as far as changing to a 48t spur gear (at a cost of $40 and more) because simply dropping to a 12t cb is too big a drop in ratio.

Look:
12/46= 3.8333
13/46= 3.538
14/46= 3.285

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14/44= 3.14
15/44= 2.93
16/44= 2.75

The gaps in ratios with the larger bell/smaller spur are closer than those with the smaller bells and bigger spurs. With traditional ring/pinion ratios gear adjustment is not really an option. Mugen and Xray both sold lots of sets of truggy ring/pinion gears this past year because people wanted this.
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Originally Posted by Davidka
The gaps in ratios with the larger bell/smaller spur are closer than those with the smaller bells and bigger spurs. With traditional ring/pinion ratios gear adjustment is not really an option. Mugen and Xray both sold lots of sets of truggy ring/pinion gears this past year because people wanted this.
Funny you say this, because the reason I heard from everyone I heard it from was to get a slightly lower OVERALL final ratio and the bevel cut gears had less drag(made for a freer feeling drive train). Not because the gear change was not as large of a step between clutch bells. Just my view on this.
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so i guess there is not a body included in the mbx6 kit?
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Would you like me to push the buttons on you calculator for you?

44 (diff gear) divided by 13 (bevel) = 3.3846

3.3846 multiply by 46 (spur/main gear) = 155.6916

155.6916 divided by 13 (pinion) = 11.9762

Round it up = 11.98

Mugen website says Gear Ratio 11.98 : 1

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Originally Posted by Turbine_au
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Although i'm yet to see it person, I reckon an MBX5R body cut to fit may end up looking better. The thinner body looks kinda funny to me.
Ew, I'm not liking on the "noseless" bodies these buggies have lately. But - that's just me.
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here's a picture of the nose.
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Originally Posted by Boz
Would you like me to push the buttons on you calculator for you?

44 (diff gear) divided by 13 (bevel) = 3.3846

3.3846 multiply by 46 (spur/main gear) = 155.6916

155.6916 divided by 13 (pinion) = 11.9762

Round it up = 11.98

Mugen website says Gear Ratio 11.98 : 1

You're completely missing the point...
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