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Old 07-09-2023, 03:29 AM
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Mugen like front geometry and Kyosho rear... so no on-power steering....
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That's a shame. Looks like a ton of negative offset. They should have atleast 3 to 4mm of positive offset with a pillowball front end. Even zero offset would be better. You could probably put some Mugen or other rear hubs on that to make it work better. This is exactly what TLR did with the 1.0, but the exact opposite. It's weird these guys design a car but don't understand the important of offset and what role it plays. That car will most likely be very numb. Probably drives okay on some surface, it's very likely a very tame car.
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People continue buying the cars, so they don't care. When it hurts their bottom line enough, they'll be compelled to change or close their doors.
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So because the suspension does look like something you know you are sure how it drives?
Have you driven it?
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The geometry of the hubs define how a car drives, that's how cars work.
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Time will tell. Until the car is released it's impossible to say what will actually come in the kit, that picture could be a specific group of option parts for a specific condition.
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There's a lot more to a car than a simple hub offset measurement, if it was that simple every car would have the same thing. Sworkz has a similar rear hub option and their kit seems to work pretty well.
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Originally Posted by UK.hardcore
The geometry of the hubs define how a car drives, that's how cars work.
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You should start complaining now, or you will not have enough time to complaint when the car is released!
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Originally Posted by UK.hardcore
The geometry of the hubs define how a car drives, that's how cars work.
With a same suspension you can create under and over steer. Beside that, if a hinge pin is one or 2mm from the original place it can make a huge difference.
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Originally Posted by Roelof
With a same suspension you can create under and over steer. Beside that, if a hinge pin is one or 2mm from the original place it can make a huge difference.
yes you can make a car do things it doesn't want to do at the cost of de-optimizing the whole setup and ruining the feel of car.
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Originally Posted by token
how did losi fix the losi?
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I'm just staggered that you guys can figure out the suspension geometry just from some shadowy ass picture that features black parts on a dark gray background....

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This has to be the most RCTech post I've ever seen. Congrats.
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Originally Posted by RC10Nick
This has to be the most RCTech post I've ever seen. Congrats.
he is HARDCORE
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Originally Posted by UK.hardcore
how did losi fix the losi?
They haven't yet😁
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