LC Racing EMB-1H Official Thread
#2146
If there mounted and you have the extensions then I would do the same to try it out - bearings and hubs are cheap enough but the forces I think on the hubs and bearing will be very different in each application. Since you have both I have wondered are the extensions longer then just the offset difference between the two different wheels. Looking at pictures they appear longer to me.
The spacers are a lot worse but because you are increasing the distance between the bearing and where the wheels are mounted. That moment force is applyed to the axles and hubs/bearings and that additional moment is to what the wheel is already doing. In the regular car racing world its always better to change the wheel offset to widen the track vs. spaces/stud extensions.
For low offset wheels, the plane of the hub mounting surface is toward the back side of the wheel's centerline so yes there is some moment forces added here as well but the distance between the hub and the mating of the wheel is the same as stock so that extra moment isn't a factor. Plus the plastic wheel will likely deform and take some of the stress when landing.
The spacers are a lot worse but because you are increasing the distance between the bearing and where the wheels are mounted. That moment force is applyed to the axles and hubs/bearings and that additional moment is to what the wheel is already doing. In the regular car racing world its always better to change the wheel offset to widen the track vs. spaces/stud extensions.
For low offset wheels, the plane of the hub mounting surface is toward the back side of the wheel's centerline so yes there is some moment forces added here as well but the distance between the hub and the mating of the wheel is the same as stock so that extra moment isn't a factor. Plus the plastic wheel will likely deform and take some of the stress when landing.
#2148
T-bone makes a rear bumper for the tacon vehicles that mounts right on and you can use the 1/16-1/18 wheelie bar they offer.
#2149
Tech Rookie
Is there any difference between the Tacon and LC racing, The Tacon is much cheaper for the buggy from what I can see.
#2150
Tech Legend
iTrader: (294)
I do have a set of the offset wheels, and I was planning on getting some new clay tires for them. But I already have a bunch of Dirt Webs and Electrons on standard rear buggy wheels, and I figured why not get the extenders for $5 and give them a shot? Plus, after thinking about it I'm not sure why the offset wheels would be better than the extenders with regular wheels. Seems the forces on the hubs will be the same either way.
#2151
Hey Everyone - Because the next shipment of the Mini-T 2.0 has been pushed back we felt it necessary to also push the date on the Mini Nationals back. The new date will be April 18 & 19 2020. Thank you all for understanding. Updated rules will be posted in about a week too! https://www.facebook.com/groups/564037174448740/
#2152
#2153
Tech Regular
iTrader: (16)
If there mounted and you have the extensions then I would do the same to try it out - bearings and hubs are cheap enough but the forces I think on the hubs and bearing will be very different in each application. Since you have both I have wondered are the extensions longer then just the offset difference between the two different wheels. Looking at pictures they appear longer to me.
For low offset wheels, the plane of the hub mounting surface is toward the back side of the wheel's centerline so yes there is some moment forces added here as well but the distance between the hub and the mating of the wheel is the same as stock so that extra moment isn't a factor.
#2154
Tech Master
iTrader: (1)
Idk if the LC bodies are any better.
1 and a half year old Tacon body.
Not even a full bash LC body.
Sooo anywho. I picked up one of those WL Toys buggies and yeah it's definitely a $80 Chinese rc car, it was broken in the box.........
All of the shocks were way overfilled and the screws holding in the suspension mounts were all loose.
Front and rear shocks on the WL Toys are both the same length ~1-2mm longer than the Lc rear shocks.
Most of the plastic parts are really bendy and pliable.
Here is a list so far of parts that are not the same and cannot be replaced without replacing other parts.
Bulkheads.
Diffs.
Shock towers.
Center driveshaft. < if you wanted to change out to the Lc slipper you need everything listed above from the Lc vehicles to do so.
Front and rear hubs.
The Tbone Racing bumper "fits" the holes in the bottom of the chassis are ever so slightly closer together front to back, side to side spacing is the same, on the WL Toys chassis.
WL Toys has an even smaller hub bearing.
WL Toys front shock on the left, Lc Racing on the right.
WL Toys on the left, Lc Racing on the right.
Lc Racing on the left, WL Toys on the right.
Lc Racing on the left, WL Toys on the right.
Just a comparison of the front shock towers.
WL Toys on the left, Lc Racing on the right.
Front shock towers stacked on top of each other. WL Toys on top, Lc Racing on the Bottom.
Rear shock towers stacked on top of each other. WL Toys on top, Lc Racing on the bottom.
1 and a half year old Tacon body.
Not even a full bash LC body.
Sooo anywho. I picked up one of those WL Toys buggies and yeah it's definitely a $80 Chinese rc car, it was broken in the box.........
All of the shocks were way overfilled and the screws holding in the suspension mounts were all loose.
Front and rear shocks on the WL Toys are both the same length ~1-2mm longer than the Lc rear shocks.
Most of the plastic parts are really bendy and pliable.
Here is a list so far of parts that are not the same and cannot be replaced without replacing other parts.
Bulkheads.
Diffs.
Shock towers.
Center driveshaft. < if you wanted to change out to the Lc slipper you need everything listed above from the Lc vehicles to do so.
Front and rear hubs.
The Tbone Racing bumper "fits" the holes in the bottom of the chassis are ever so slightly closer together front to back, side to side spacing is the same, on the WL Toys chassis.
WL Toys has an even smaller hub bearing.
WL Toys front shock on the left, Lc Racing on the right.
WL Toys on the left, Lc Racing on the right.
Lc Racing on the left, WL Toys on the right.
Lc Racing on the left, WL Toys on the right.
Just a comparison of the front shock towers.
WL Toys on the left, Lc Racing on the right.
Front shock towers stacked on top of each other. WL Toys on top, Lc Racing on the Bottom.
Rear shock towers stacked on top of each other. WL Toys on top, Lc Racing on the bottom.
#2156
where can I find a setup for the lc buggy? I'd love to feel like mine is "dialed in". Thanks!
#2157
And also, is there a big difference in handling for the truggy? I'm considering upgrading mine. Thanks!
#2159
Tech Regular
iTrader: (16)
I installed a 3100 Kv Surpass motor in my truggy last week. This allows the use of 3s 1800 mAh packs, which have the same watt hours as a 2s 2700 pack but still fit easily. Running the motor with a 14T pinion and it still has more speed than I can use at my local clay track.
In other news, I broke a rear hub carrier on a bad landing, and when I went to replace it one of those tiny hub bearings disintegrated in my hands. That was after maybe an hour of runtime total.
In other news, I broke a rear hub carrier on a bad landing, and when I went to replace it one of those tiny hub bearings disintegrated in my hands. That was after maybe an hour of runtime total.