EMU

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It might be a good candidate for an LM or PN flat 98mm mount, which can run a very low damper position. Then using a R246-1352 damper... I am working on a similar damper plate that mounts the damper a little lower, than standard at 98mm to be compatible with LM mounts at 98mm.

Kremzeek

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Yeah, the stock stuff will probably fit. Just thinking of some of my aftermarket dampers. Like EMU said, it will probably be a good candidate for an LCG or MML mount.

Billy Kelly

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lmlindbo

I usually race without a rear shock. I also only use one disc on the dds.
Just try and see what works best for you and the track.

Kremzeek

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The first Mini-Z I bought was a Ferrari F50. It was a 94mm rear motor with no top shock. Drove like garbage.

lmlindbo

My mod with only top disc.
Needs more on-power steering. But I can throw it into any turn as hard as I want.

LJH

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I have never raced a pan car but have played with RC touring cars and full size cars suspension set-ups.. The whole pan car thing kind of seemed like black magic to me until I started playing with the Mini-Z's. At first I pretty much just played with the front end figuring not much could be done wit the rear end. Then one night I was bored and read an article on disk dampeners. The next time I set up the RP track I spent a couple hours seeing what effects changing stuff had. I have to say I was shocked, pardon the pun, at the very noticeable difference with different springs and disk fluid. I mean you can completely change how the car drives by making one spring change....I thought that was VERY cool.

Cheers,
Jim

lmlindbo

I now.
The feeling when you master black magic is almost second to none ;-)

RussF

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One of these links might Help.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...2GY/edit#gid=2

Body Specifications ? MINI-Z Info

Billy Kelly

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Billy Kelly

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LJH

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Billy Kelly

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EMU

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Around here, many racers use only the lower damper disc. Which provides a lot more steering, both on throttle and off. I almost always use two discs if I can fit them. I typically preload my upper disc more in faster motor classes to gain more rear traction. I also often use a top shock.

The single lower disc will allow more droop (when not using a top shock to limit it). which gains more front end traction off throttle due to weight transfer forwards being less restricted. On throttle, a preloaded lower disc will give less rear traction therefore more steering as well. I like a relatively neutral rear end, which allows me to drive the car harder. A single disc doesnt give that to me. I feel that the car will have more variance in line and react too aggressive with certain input levels. I have never tried a single upper disc though... which seems like it would give a very calm car, with a pushy nature. However, that could be compensated for with a very aggressive front end, as you will ride the front end in to the corner harder, and have loads of traction coming off the corner.

lmlindbo

I try to experiment a bit with setups and modifications. To try and find what works for me.
My Superstock (5500kv on nimh) has got a std PNR 2,5 with only disc under.
The mod was a project of getting a very low CG. This made it impossible to fit a disc under. So then I went disc over with extreme tire wear and a lot of maintenace as a result.

During a race night with practice, three quals and tripple A-mains I go through a couple of Marka V5F15 fronts. I have to rebuild my diff before last qual and i have to butter up the disc before each heat.
The car is crazy fast for my drivingstyle, but the setup window where it works is minimal.

I have now raised the carbon plate a few mm to get a disc under and to find a more ECO-friendly setup. ;-)

The plan this weekend is to find a less extreme setup that is just as fast and consistent.
Really have to lower my tire-budget :-)