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Old 05-01-2019, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BigAl's 12scale
Too bad someone with some business background couldn't make RC racing in Madison a permanent business.
Someone with a business background would honestly realize it’s a loosing effort.

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Originally Posted by Billy Kelly

Someone with a business background would honestly realize it’s a loosing effort.

You're a real ball of joy this week!

But you're correct. Most tracks are a passion, but really a huge money maker.
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Originally Posted by Troy Carter
You're a real ball of joy this week!

But you're correct. Most tracks are a passion, but really a huge money maker.
well I’m dealing with a massive tooth infection so not in best shape

The club ideas are new to me. They were popular and more common before I got into RC. And only been on the race side for couple years. And while I’m interested in seeing if any of the clubs that are now being proposed can work. I’m a bit skeptical about it. Still seems like they will be dependent on a relatively small group. With no mention of trying to bring in the casual “weekend racer”.

Our group in Orland could have been considered a club technically, I think. While we were open to any coming and willing to run more classes if they showed. It basically stayed as a group of 10-12. Then few had work schedule change. And suddenly down to 6-7. We had a lot of public come to watch. But none crossed over. The store sold around 250 Traxxas 4Tec during our time. More then a few bought after trying mine on our track, but none came back.
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I'd be okay if it could just break even if it were me, but that is a tough proposition these days.

On the other hand, I've witnessed Tracks Hobbies from the start of MiniZ racing and seen how much they've grown in the past year and half to having a decent amount of regulars. If we got somehow got some of those guys to cross over to the 1/10th side too.....
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Originally Posted by Dan
I'd be okay if it could just break even if it were me, but that is a tough proposition these days.

On the other hand, I've witnessed Tracks Hobbies from the start of MiniZ racing and seen how much they've grown in the past year and half to having a decent amount of regulars. If we got somehow got some of those guys to cross over to the 1/10th side too.....
Almost all of our MiniZ/small scale group have or do run 1/10 also. It’s been a bit of suprise how more are willing to try small scale. Had more then a dozen come out to ours from my videos. Yet, could not get interest in our 1/10. Videos did not have the same effect.

Price is part of it. For unde $200 almost any RTR RWD MiniZ can run. And be competitive in its class.
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You would be shocked at how much some of the MiniZ cars cost running at Tracks. Most of the guys are not actively racing 1/10th, only a few of us.
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Originally Posted by Dan
You would be shocked at how much some of the MiniZ cars cost running at Tracks. Most of the guys are not actively racing 1/10th, only a few of us.
O I know what they spend. Kept me away from small scale for years. I was very suprised by how well a RTR could run, with a lot of practice. And at a point it’s better to move up to one of the more Micro Pan car style cars. But for someone just considering trying. Less the $200 is reasonable
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The best deal I have come across is a Metal Building 100x100 kit and 2 acres of land on the south side of Deerfield, WI. About $200k up front. Monthly costs would be in the $2500 range to cover costs and the kicker is in 15 years we'd own it. We'd build it, insulate it, set up heat and air and maybe a small hobby shop up front. Open the building from 4 PM until the last member locks the door on weeknights and all day on weekends. Hotels are only 10 minutes away for hosting large events. Everyone worries about commitment. It's now 2500 divided by 10 or 20 regulars. We'd make them trustees and incorporate as a non-profit org.

How does Tracks work: Novices. They have a box stock class. Billy hit that one on the head. $200 or less, they can charge and learn to race. You get better you upgrade. You get good and you try other classes. And it needs to be a family friendly environment.

So, who wants to build a giant erector set?
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Originally Posted by BigAl's 12scale
Too bad someone with some business background couldn't make RC racing in Madison a permanent business.
My wife will not let me Al. Not by myself.
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Originally Posted by liljohn1064
My wife will not let me Al. Not by myself.
Yea our own building would be nice. I had Cleary"s build my building and they had it up in two days.
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Originally Posted by liljohn1064
How does Tracks work: Novices. They have a box stock class. Billy hit that one on the head. $200 or less, they can charge and learn to race. You get better you upgrade. You get good and you try other classes. And it needs to be a family friendly environment.
This is how we have failed the local tracks. I think.
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we had a property owner that wanted to land contract us a builiding around 15 years ago...the pres at the time wanted nothing to do with it..

but i would agree, you have to bring new blood into the hobby, the club was very inviting, but there were things that could turn ppl away...
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That $200 price I mentioned in earlier post was for MiniZ. Though with 3Racing and Xpress, there are definitely low budget kits.
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Originally Posted by Billy Kelly
That $200 price I mentioned in earlier post was for MiniZ. Though with 3Racing and Xpress, there are definitely low budget kits.
Understood Billy. There would be room for Mini-z here also.

Tamiya Mini set up as TCS spec would be fairly cheap and they are very durable for On Road. A TT02 would be about the same. Pretty close to $300 depending on how far you go with the radio system. Or a spec RTR of some sort with a radio.

Basic brushed Slash or Traxxas Buggy for off road.

Sport Mini-z are great for beginners in small or any scale.

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No one reading this any longer?

I'm guessing we either need a wealthy benefactor, or 20 members to form the board of trustees. The trustees each come up with $1000 USD and sign the charter for this club. We then either decide to rent or buy. The preference would be to buy and retain a 15 year mortgage of $200,000 with 10% down. Yes, it sounds like a lot of money and a lot of responsibility. But, if the same 20 guys pay $1000 a year for racing up front, it's paid for in less than 10 years. If a trustee ever needs leave, they will be replaced legally. The club itself will be listed as a Non-profit and get the required liability insurance. I'm also going to post this on the Chicagoland Tracks Thread.
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