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Old 09-08-2006, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tpg racer
Owh yes btw, why MNC only applies to EP cars???

Where is the national championship for nitro cars???

All this while when people got to know I race RC cars, the first question they would ask " you punya kereta itu guna minyak punya ka?"

This shows that in people's eyes nitro cars are the popular ones that attract the crowd. During the previous Norex race, it is so obvious that people are attracted to nitro cars. When it is time for the nitro main to run, crowds would gather.

But when the EP main runs, people starts to perish. Macam buat tak tau je.

So I would also suggest that MNC should be a conjoined race between EP and Nitro cars.

This is just a suggestion anyway...
kalau nak tau dik, MNC nie kerjasama antara EP & GP tau. If I'm not mistaken MNC concentrate with EP first because EP is almost dying. Bila dah kukuh baru go with GP.

On nitro attract bigger crowd than GP, this is not always the case. Coz in some races the electric car draw much crowd also. Tengoklah siapa yang main, kalau Chee Yong, Jacky, yg top2 main, sambuatan meriah tau. Bukan nak kata apalah, norex race tu tiada star yg dtg sebab masa tu ia clash dgn FEMCA. Jadi star2 negara sedang berjuang di peringkah antarabangsa masa tu.

FYI, during night bashing at Tiwangsa you can even see electric car beating some 1/10 nitro & 1/8 nitro. I'm not talking about the pros beating the nitro. I'm refering to the EP Mat Rempit at Titiwangsa. Their standard of driving are at par with this nitro guys. Kalau nak tahu malam Jumaat & Sabtu kat TT begitu meriah sekali.

So jgn kata EP tak de appeal, saya yg main Nitro pun suka pada EP sebab EP ajar saya throttle control dan cara ambil corner.

Untuk join EP & GP sekali, dik ... nak tergelak .... MNC bukan fun race dik ... ia NAtional race ... jumlah penyertaan pun 60. A least 8 heat kena lari, final pulak A main 3 run, B main 2 run, main lain 1 run. Kena pulak ada stock & modified sekali. FYI, penyertaan perserta dlm MNC adalah salah satu yg teramai dlm mana2 race RC utk tahun ini. Jadi kalau masuk GP skali bila nak habis.

Hopefully Kraisorn you start learning to evaluate current scene, not just giving suggestion yang basi. I'm a GP guy and I feel MNC is important because it is bridge that tie up EP & GP guys to work together for Msian RC.
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Originally Posted by tornadobuster
kalau nak tau dik, MNC nie kerjasama antara EP & GP tau. If I'm not mistaken MNC concentrate with EP first because EP is almost dying. Bila dah kukuh baru go with GP.

On nitro attract bigger crowd than GP, this is not always the case. Coz in some races the electric car draw much crowd also. Tengoklah siapa yang main, kalau Chee Yong, Jacky, yg top2 main, sambuatan meriah tau. Bukan nak kata apalah, norex race tu tiada star yg dtg sebab masa tu ia clash dgn FEMCA. Jadi star2 negara sedang berjuang di peringkah antarabangsa masa tu.

FYI, during night bashing at Tiwangsa you can even see electric car beating some 1/10 nitro & 1/8 nitro. I'm not talking about the pros beating the nitro. I'm refering to the EP Mat Rempit at Titiwangsa. Their standard of driving are at par with this nitro guys. Kalau nak tahu malam Jumaat & Sabtu kat TT begitu meriah sekali.

So jgn kata EP tak de appeal, saya yg main Nitro pun suka pada EP sebab EP ajar saya throttle control dan cara ambil corner.

Untuk join EP & GP sekali, dik ... nak tergelak .... MNC bukan fun race dik ... ia NAtional race ... jumlah penyertaan pun 60. A least 8 heat kena lari, final pulak A main 3 run, B main 2 run, main lain 1 run. Kena pulak ada stock & modified sekali. FYI, penyertaan perserta dlm MNC adalah salah satu yg teramai dlm mana2 race RC utk tahun ini. Jadi kalau masuk GP skali bila nak habis.

Hopefully Kraisorn you start learning to evaluate current scene, not just giving suggestion yang basi. I'm a GP guy and I feel MNC is important because it is bridge that tie up EP & GP guys to work together for Msian RC.

Wah.......abang buster ni......memang layak jadi speaker bagi pihak EP....... thank you for your support and understanding.......... bijak bijak.......
 
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Ei ni yang tak suka bagi opinion ni.

Asyik asyik kena pijak.

Malas lar nak bagi opinion lain kali... Kan dah kata bagi opinion je tak payah lar sampai hantam hantam kat forum ni.

Kan dah tulis "Just My two cents"...
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Chill man cool down, please don't blow your tops off... have a nice one.
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Originally Posted by bgdesmoulin
Friends

The venue for MNC 3(Final) Rd is Litar Titiwangsa, Kuala Lumpur. FYI, Litar Titiwangsa has been officially announced for all MNC Rd for year 2006 by MARCC.

However we need to decide on the date. The track is available for the following weekend :

25th & 26th November 2006
23rd & 24th December 2066
30th & 31st December 2006

In view of Christmas holiday, we have to rule out 23rd & 24th December 2006.

Pls give your feedback on the dates. We need to decide the date by end of September in order for the organiser to book the track with RCAC.



Rgds

Bigguy & Norazam
There are many requests to push MNC 3 to January 2007. The argument : end October, November and December are holiday season. Another argued that MNC start mid year 2006 and should take a full cycle of one year before May 2007 to be completed. Therefore the followings are the options :

25th & 26th November 2006
30th & 31st December 2006
January 2007
Anytime before May 2007

Your feedback on the dates is very much appreciated. We need to settle on the dates to plan the logistic & budgetary.

Also Pls advise us on the date of CNY.

Thnx.

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Bigguy & Norazam
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30th & 31st would suit me and possibly a lot of us outstation racers very well

After the weekend of racing, on the 1st of Jan (New Year's Day = Holiday) us outstation drivers would not be so stressed by the travelling. We can actually spend an extra night in KL before going back on the 1st. Wife & kids also can go with us. School starts a few days later. (3rd of Jan)
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Originally Posted by tornadobuster
Hopefully Kraisorn you start learning to evaluate current scene, not just giving suggestion yang basi. I'm a GP guy and I feel MNC is important because it is bridge that tie up EP & GP guys to work together for Msian RC.

Sabar bang. Dia bagi pendapat je, nothing wrong with that.

What we can do is to keep educating & update people of what is going on. Not everything is acceptable to everybody every time.

Kita tak akan tahu kalau kita tak alami sendiri. Kepada yg pernah alami susah senang apabila membuat sesuatu, kita akan lebih memahami & menghargai pengalaman itu. Seperti 'combined GP & EP races', ada baik & ada buruknya. Tapi buruknya lebih dari perkara baiknya.

Tentang regulating R&R, semuanya bergantung kpd organiser. Kalau racer tak puas hati, pada siapa mereka nak mengadu hal? Jika ada badan induk, boleh juga mengadu. Kalau kita tak sekata & tak bersependapat, apa pun tak akan termakbul.

Sabar & bawa bertenang. Kita dah ada Bigguy yg sudi memperjuangkan utk kita. Cuma sokongan yg perlu kita beri, tak lebih dari itu.

Ciao
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MNC Rules and Regulation for year 2006

I. TOURNAMENT FORMAT

A. Classes

Two classes will be run for MNC;

• EXPERT CLASS (OPEN MOTOR)
• NOVICE CLASS (STOCK MOTOR)

Expert Classification - as announced on 11th April 2006

1. The Top 3 Stock Racers based on MNC Ranking will be promoted to Expert every year.
2. The Top 15 Experts based on MNC 2005 ranking are allowed to contest in the Stock Category BUT will NOT be awarded points in that category.

Novice Classification

Those not listed as MNC 2005 top 15 in Expert Class are eligible for points in both classes – expert & novice.

B. Number of MNC Rounds for Each MNC Year

A series of at least 3 rounds for every MNC year will be organised by appointed organisers.

Ranking will be based by 3 rounds at least. If 3 rounds are organised for a particular year, points from all rounds will be calculated to determine ranking.

C. Points System For Each Round

Expert
Points will be awarded for each position in A, B, C and D Main. The points system starts with 40 points for A Main 1st and ends with 1 point for D Main 10th. Top qualifier will be awarded an additional 2 Points.

Novice
Points will be awarded for each position in A and B. The points system starts with 20 points for A Main 1st and ends with 1 point for B Main 10th. Top qualifier will be awarded an additional 2 Points.

D. Determining winner for each Qualifying Round

Expert
A Main will be determined by the best 2 out of 3 races. For each run the 1st place racer will be awarded with 10 points & the 10th Place racer will be awarded 1 point. B Main will be determined by 1 out of 2 races. C and D Main will run one race each to determine the final position.

Novice
A Main will be determined by the best 2 out of 3 races. For each run the 1st place racer will be awarded with 10 points & the 10th Place racer will be awarded 1 point. B Main will be determined by 1 out of 2 races..


II. RULES & REGULATION (Revision MAY 2006)

A. TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION

Batteries
- maximum 4300mah, sub – C size rated nominally at 1.2V with manufacturer’s jacket/heat shrink fitted & visible maximum 6 cells / 7.2V maximum

Motor Expert Class
- 540 sized, powered by 2 brushes, maximum 4 magnets
- tuneable timing, ball bearing & V2 endbell allowed
- any turns or winds, brushless allowed

Motor for Novice Class
- 540 sized, powered by 2 brushes & locked timing
- no ball bearings in motor allowed only bushings
- not less than 23 turns

Body
-two or four door type bodyshells only.
- bodyshells may not be cut above the door line & bumper line of the manufacturers molded line.
- Holes only allowed for body mounting & lap timing equipments
- All wheel arches must be cut out.

Speed Controller
- Mechanical or Electronic Speed controller allowed. Reverse function must be disabled during a race.

Tyre Ruling
- Only Rubber tyres allowed. Open to all brands of rubber tyre.
- 2 Sets of tyres for qualifying round.
- A 3rd set will be allowed for finals.
- Tyres will be scrutinised and marked.

Chassis / Drive Train
- 2WD front or rear or 4WD is allowed.
- Independent suspension to all 4 wheels. Each drive wheel must have a flexible joint (eg. Dogbones or universal joints).
- Flat pan chassis not allowed.
- Wheel nuts/axles must not extend more than 2mm beyond the wheels when viewed from above
- One car per driver
- Use of one-way bearing in the rear axle is not allowed. The car must have rear wheels to brake.

Dimensions in mm
- Wheelbase Min : 250 Max 270
- Width (without bodyshell) Min : 170 Max 190
- Width (with bodyshell)Min : 175 Max : 195
- Length (overall, with bodyshell fitted) Min : 360 Max : 460
- Height (to top of roof – ready to race) Min : 115 Max : 175
- Wing width (incl endplates & supports) Min : 125 Max : 190
- Wing chord (incl any flaps/extensions) Min : 20 Max : 40
- Wing plate (when separate) 40 x 20
- Tire width -
(across sidewalls when fitted to wheels) Min : 24 Max : 28
- Tire diameter(when mounted on wheels) Min : 63 Max : 67

Weight
Without any lap timing device
4WD : 1500grams
2WD : 1400grams

B. DRIVING RULES

1. Violation to the above technical specification will cause driver disqualification in a particular heat or final.
2. Jump start: Anyone caught for jump-start during final will be placed at the back of the starting position. Organizers decision is final.
3. Track crossing: refer c) Penalty
4. Dangerous driving: : refer c) Penalty
5. Courtesy of drivers: refer c) Penalty

C) PENALTY

i. 10 second stop go penalty for the followings :
1. Dangerous driving
2. Consistantly blocking of leading cars during qualifying. (after 1 warnings have been issued)
3. Deliberately hitting on other cars

Driver must at least drive through the pit lane at most 1 lap after official announcement. Meaning once the penalty announcement is made, driver is allowed another lap before pulling in for penalty. If drivers fail to pull in for penalty, 60 seconds will be added to the heat or final he is currently running.

ii. Add 10 sec penalty for the following :
1. Misconduct and unsporting behaviour at the driver stand
2. Fail to perform marshalling duty

iii. We will also pull out cars from racing if :
1) Car damage
2) Car uncontrollable
3) Car that damage other cars

iv. Disqualification
1) car Underweight
2) Tyre Infringement - Used of unmarked tyre, use tyre that
belongs to other racers, use of foam tyre for 1/10 racing only
3) Electric Motor Infringement - bearing used in 23 T motor,
modified motor used in stock racing


D) TYRE RULING & TYRE MARKING

Every racer will be given 3 sets of control small stickers bearing the name "Malaysian National Championship 2006 Rd 2". The stickers are meant for tyre marking. The SILVER color stickers are for qualifying and the GOLD is for final. In all 2 sets for qualifying and 1 set for final will be given to each racer. Every racer will be required to tag their tyres with these stickers, eg.,If the tyre is meant for qualifying, pls use silver color.

When will the official tag & check this tyre?

For sure everybody will need to use tyres for 1st heat. After every 1st heat the officials will collect participating cars for tech inspection while drivers are required for mashalling. During this inspection the 1st set will be tagged with car number & group number. If you are in 1st group and your car is no 3, the tyre will be tagged A03. So 1st set used. At the same time the official will mark driver has used 1st set in the “ number of tyres used” list.

If during 2nd heat, the same tyre is used, no tagging is done during 2nd heat tech inspection. If fresh set is used then the tagging is done.

During the 3rd heat at least all drivers have used 1 set.

Drivers are allowed to used qualifying tyres in the final. If fresh set is required in the final, then the same tagging process will be done. Reminder – for final only ONE set is allowed.


E. TURN MARSHALL

1. All drivers must perform marshalling duties. Drivers who fail to perform the duty will be deducted 1 lap from the best heat.
2. During marshalling, marshalls not allowed to smoke, communicate with handphone and doing any activity that might disrupt the race.
3. All Marshalls must wear proper attire and no slippers allowed during marshalling.
4. All Marshalls will be assigned with specific location around.


F. WET TRACK REGULATION


1) If its rain in the morning, once the rain stop, the organiser we clear the waterlog and have the track dry up up to 60%. Organiser will allow any special rain tyre for racing. The organiser will open a 1 hour free practise before racing take place. The number of heats might be cut and most probably 2 qualifying heats will be enforced.

2) If its rain after qualifying heats, example in the afternoon, the organiser will clear the waterlog and have the track dry up to 60 %. Also Organiser will allow any special rain tyre for racing. The organiser will open a 1 hour free practise before racing take place. At least one final for each main must be completed.

3) At a minimum, the organiser will enforce 2 qualifying heats and 1 final for every main. At most we will drag the schedule until 7.30 PM.


III. SUPPORTING RACE (for 2006)


1/12 pan car
1. No motor limit - Open for all
2. 4 battery cells only
3. Minimum of 10 participants are required to confirm event.

Off Road

1. No motor limit - Open for all
2. Buggy, Truck, whatever is 1/10 size allowed.
3. Minimum of 10 participants are required to confirm event.

M Chasis

1. One round of 5 minutes heats to determine final starting position.
2. At least 20 minutes finals for all registered cars. Organiser can determine race duration if required.
3. Maximum 15 cars ONLY.
4. Motor : Tamiya Sport tune.
5. Tyre : Rubber Tyre ONLY.
6. All participants are advised to bring along additional "crystal" to avoid clash of frequency.

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Originally Posted by tornadobuster
kalau nak tau dik, MNC nie kerjasama antara EP & GP tau. If I'm not mistaken MNC concentrate with EP first because EP is almost dying. Bila dah kukuh baru go with GP.

On nitro attract bigger crowd than GP, this is not always the case. Coz in some races the electric car draw much crowd also. Tengoklah siapa yang main, kalau Chee Yong, Jacky, yg top2 main, sambuatan meriah tau. Bukan nak kata apalah, norex race tu tiada star yg dtg sebab masa tu ia clash dgn FEMCA. Jadi star2 negara sedang berjuang di peringkah antarabangsa masa tu.

FYI, during night bashing at Tiwangsa you can even see electric car beating some 1/10 nitro & 1/8 nitro. I'm not talking about the pros beating the nitro. I'm refering to the EP Mat Rempit at Titiwangsa. Their standard of driving are at par with this nitro guys. Kalau nak tahu malam Jumaat & Sabtu kat TT begitu meriah sekali.

So jgn kata EP tak de appeal, saya yg main Nitro pun suka pada EP sebab EP ajar saya throttle control dan cara ambil corner.

Untuk join EP & GP sekali, dik ... nak tergelak .... MNC bukan fun race dik ... ia NAtional race ... jumlah penyertaan pun 60. A least 8 heat kena lari, final pulak A main 3 run, B main 2 run, main lain 1 run. Kena pulak ada stock & modified sekali. FYI, penyertaan perserta dlm MNC adalah salah satu yg teramai dlm mana2 race RC utk tahun ini. Jadi kalau masuk GP skali bila nak habis.

Hopefully Kraisorn you start learning to evaluate current scene, not just giving suggestion yang basi. I'm a GP guy and I feel MNC is important because it is bridge that tie up EP & GP guys to work together for Msian RC.

memang setuju ape yang kamu cakap ni
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JOINT ANNOUNCEMENT ON MNC 3
Re : MNC 3 Dates & Venue

The organiser TT Racer and MARCC has discussed and agreed on the dates for MNC 3. The dates for MNC 3 are :

30th December 2006 and 31st December 2006
Venue : Litar RC Tasik Titiwangsa, Kuala Lumpur

Booking for the track and transponder on 30th & 31st December 2006 has been made with RCAC.

Hope all racers will support and register for MNC 3.

Rgds

Zulkifli Yazid
MARCC

Norazam
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Yahaya Mohd Ali
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Updated below.

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Old 09-13-2006, 03:13 AM
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To bigguy and norazam!

Woof Woof Woof!

3 woofs from me for your contribution's efforts and efforts! and efforts

my humble apolagies for not participating in the 2 nd round MNC was away for a trip out of the country...
But will definately put the 3rd round on my planner...

as usual my SWIFT/m03m mesti try try the tarmac....

only 1 complaint....badan macam saya takut panas! boleh melt ...but for the spirit of the sport mati mati pun mesti support...

BTW how do we make this hobby to be recognise as a sport? it is it already recognise as a sporting event?

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Old 09-13-2006, 03:16 AM
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Pendaftaran/Registration 12-9-2006

Round 3 - Titiwangsa KL
Date - 30th-31st December 2006
(1st Jan 2007 New Year's Day = No Rush Going Home)

Only
109
Days left To Race Day


Please IM or SMS 016-5337500 (Foo) to me, your Name/Freq/Car/Category, thanks.


Category STOCK 23T (Bearings Not Allowed)

1. Yahaya Mohd Ali / 40.855 / Xray T2 / Ipoh
2. Need4Speed / Spektrum / Xray T1RRR / Ipoh
3. Hon Kam Wai aka Bisu / 29.945 / Xray T1 / Ipoh
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Agent for collection :

Pak Ya & Foo - Northerns
Panut - South
Norazam, Helmi - KL

Dateline : 3 days Before event.
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Please include me in the modified category ,

Sani Adnan , 40.670.
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Good work Mr Big Guy, Mr Nor Azam.

Will try to get malaccan racers to join this MNC race. but please excuse me as i will be on holiday with family, its a tradition for my family sorry. never the less will give support spiritually.

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