hmmm seems a little bias, not poking fun but my 2wd buggy cost more than $500, and to say that there are no sore loser's in the onroad world seems a bit off too

Its all about the numbers! Off Road is on the up and up! You cannot blame a owner for doing what is by far the more lucrative move!

TC kits are $500+ for the majority. You still have to add the electronics and such on top of that.

Wonder why no-one wants to commit to that when you can go buy a competitive 1/10th buggy rtr for 250$

Kindness and loyalty is not a business plan. The track owner must decide if he wants to have a business or a hobby. If you want to run it as a hobby you will need volunteers to keep it running. What your describing is basic economics which has been going on for thousands of years. You can't just put up a track then complain that racer's aren't loyal enough to race on your track when they get a better experience at others.

Bottom line if HS wants to stay open they have to bring in money. If on road could do that we wouldn't be having this conversation.

+1 so very true...

I have recommended we race On road on Sunday so many times it drives me crazy. Wednesday night historical became the night because of the newness of the track. Yes we used to have big turnouts but if you listen to a lot of racers that stopped coming, they will tell it's hard to get in and out of hotshots at decent hour and get to work or school. The problem is no change came. No adjustments were made. I know he tried it once but that's just it, it was once and it was very short notice. I still feel had he made those 2 changes he would had spent less money to make more money. He would have the largest indoor on road track in the region and been able to hold the Roar carpet nationals and other large events with out any competition.

Back to the subject...... yeah ill be there to race on Wednesday night probably not as much as I was with on road because I'll probably will be preparing to travel to other on road tracks that don't have a facility as good as what Hotshot RC could have.

This entire conversation is going to feel very ironic a year from now...

Myron, I appreciate the effort, but we have been fighting this fight for months. Onroad is not dead in GA, though it appears to soon be at Hot Shots. Some may argue it died a year+ ago. Hot Shots is a business and should be run like one, and I hold 0 ill will towards Brad over his upcoming decision. I truely do not envy him having to make it either.

For the time being, when the onroad track gets more covered in dirt, we will come up to Thunder and One Lug to get our fix.

I could make a Wednesday night event 1-2 times per month.

I say move the stand back and have a small onroad and big offroad.

Okay you guys this is becoming pointless. Any off road racer on the outside looking in is going to see the same thing. On road number are down and this track may close if we don't do anything about it. I know why it's this way as do many of you but at this point it's irreversible damage that's already been done.

Again I will be coming on Wednesday may be once or twice a month.

Ok I guess your source didnt tell you I had my aunt step dad and good friend pass away during the end of Oct and Nov? ...

Lets be clear im very pro-USVTA, but im more pro on road. I enjoy coming to the ATL and so does my girls. So me not coming to the GORC has nothing to do with rules. Also they are not "my" rules, they are the national rules that most tracks go by and see great entries from it.

But this isn't about me. Its about the onroad guys wanting and needing and track to race. And giving the chance I think hot shots could be the premier carpet track in the country.

Hot bed in Atlanta GA.

Nice location

Good hobbyshop

Only track of its kind in the whole state

Largest indoor carpet track in the nation

Host of national level events

Etc etc ect

Onroad...9-12 a night tops

Offroad...30-60 a night and growing...

do the math.

Again, its had 2-3 years to do this, and hasnt.

Why not just level the onroad track for now, generate some padding in the bank and when one of the adjacent units opens up, put an onroad track in there, completely separate from the dirt.

Are these entries or bodies