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RCJer 02-23-2017 09:36 AM

ordering a new kit for the mile high race. Any must have upgrades i should be ordering with it? also a standard or low profile servo? thanks!

wkderf 02-23-2017 10:09 AM

You will want to use a low-profile servo for sure.

The car is great out of the box, but if you look at the Wiki at the top of the page, it lists some of the more popular options for the T4.

R Dodge 02-23-2017 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by King of B Main (Post 14847675)
Robbie , I've been trying to get 29degree throw and the best I can get is 26degree with servo saver . How many bushings are you using ? . I never tried that


I just use one of the long bushings from this package:

https://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/pr...Bushing%20(2+2)

outlandr91 02-23-2017 10:49 AM

I don't have my car in front of me at the moment so I'm trying to picture how using the long bushing instead of shims allows the rack to move a little farther as you stated in your first post.


Originally Posted by R Dodge (Post 14847819)
I just use one of the long bushings from this package:

https://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/pr...Bushing%20(2+2)


King of B Main 02-23-2017 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by R Dodge (Post 14847819)
I just use one of the long bushings from this package:

https://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/pr...Bushing%20(2+2)

Thank you , really appreciate all the info you give us

Danny-b23 02-23-2017 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by outlandr91 (Post 14847849)
I don't have my car in front of me at the moment so I'm trying to picture how using the long bushing instead of shims allows the rack to move a little farther as you stated in your first post.

The outside diameter of the shim is larger than the outside diameter of the bushing. This allows for more movement from the steering arms in the rack before contacting the center "post".

anr211 02-23-2017 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by outlandr91 (Post 14847849)
I don't have my car in front of me at the moment so I'm trying to picture how using the long bushing instead of shims allows the rack to move a little farther as you stated in your first post.

Its the same idea as this, but instead of grinding the arms down he is using a smaller diameter part (the c-hub bushing) for the center post.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachme...3-sam_2110.jpg

outlandr91 02-23-2017 06:37 PM

Now I understand, thanks guys:nod:

MGU 02-24-2017 01:34 AM

Ok, taking all your feedback into consideration I setup the steering linkage again last evening. I used subtrim to get the saver as vertical as possible, than I changed the linkage length so it is dead straight and finally I adjusted the EPA so the shims are just shy of hitting the servo arms at full lock. Most likely I have to fine tune the center a little bit the first time I am at the track but other than that this topic is closed for me. :)

Thanks again for all the hints and tips I got from you guys.

Lonestar 02-24-2017 05:07 AM

Great - something else I could think about is, if you used the inner hole on the bellcranks... That'd definitely rob you of steering throw (esp. the outside wheel).

On another note, may I ask to the pros on what occasion you actually use more throw than the max stock setup? I often have to dial some steering out than in... which conditions does the "thin shim" trick really come to life?!?

Thanks,
Paul

Danny-b23 02-24-2017 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Lonestar (Post 14848600)
Great - something else I could think about is, if you used the inner hole on the bellcranks... That'd definitely rob you of steering throw (esp. the outside wheel).

On another note, may I ask to the pros on what occasion you actually use more throw than the max stock setup? I often have to dial some steering out than in... which conditions does the "thin shim" trick really come to life?!?

Thanks,
Paul

Personally I've never done it. On our 55'x24' club track I get by just fine with the standard shim. There's reasons for doing it but I'm unaware of most of them.

JEFFs SC10 02-24-2017 03:05 PM

Anyone run a VTA setup? Curious what your setup is, thinking of hitting a race in Arlington Heights Illinois in April.

Thanks

Kevin K 02-24-2017 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10 (Post 14849166)
Anyone run a VTA setup? Curious what your setup is, thinking of hitting a race in Arlington Heights Illinois in April.

Thanks

Most of the normal 17.5 or stock setups work just fine in VTA from what I have found. I have Craig X's setup from stock wars on my car and it works great in VTA.

Hope you make it up here for THE scale nats.

MGU 02-24-2017 11:41 PM

Good morning

Apart from the narrow x-ray pinions are there others that fit well? I usually have Robitronics due to their availability here but the are a little bit to wide. Depending on how I install them either the belt rubs on it or it touches the battery.

Kind regards,
Mike

R Dodge 02-25-2017 02:36 AM


Originally Posted by MGU (Post 14849489)
Good morning

Apart from the narrow x-ray pinions are there others that fit well? I usually have Robitronics due to their availability here but the are a little bit to wide. Depending on how I install them either the belt rubs on it or it touches the battery.

Kind regards,
Mike

Leespeed, xenon and panaracer seem to work well. Those 3 are also the quietest and smoothest brands you will find. If I had to rank them I'd go xenon, panaracer and leespeed but they are very similar and high quality. I have not tried xray pinions yet but have been planning to try them


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