aluminum chassis fad or real performance option?
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#32
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Titanium has extremely high ultimate strength, about 50% higher than stainless steel, but its modulus (stiffness) is not all that much higher than aluminum for all that strength.
Aluminum: 72 GPa
Titanium: 114 GPa
304 SS: ~190-200 GPa
Given the cost, it's not really a viable thing for this application. It'll be the same weight for a similarly stiff chassis compared to aluminum, however, so you're just paying more for a chassis that's less likely to bend, but isn't stiffer than an aluminum counterpart (so no performance advantage).
Aluminum: 72 GPa
Titanium: 114 GPa
304 SS: ~190-200 GPa
Given the cost, it's not really a viable thing for this application. It'll be the same weight for a similarly stiff chassis compared to aluminum, however, so you're just paying more for a chassis that's less likely to bend, but isn't stiffer than an aluminum counterpart (so no performance advantage).
Last edited by Brian McGreevy; 03-02-2016 at 11:44 AM.
#33
I agree.. BUT ! it's stiffness is higher than aluminum buy a little.. I'll take that and the much more higher price of it.
If you don't wont it, sell it to me.
If you don't wont it, sell it to me.
#34
Most people think 7075 aluminium is the best to have. Well... there is something better called 7068
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7068_aluminium_alloy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7068_aluminium_alloy
#36
Grate info !!
#37
GREAT info indeed !!!
#38
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Titanium is considerably heavier than aluminum. Titanium is 60% the weight of steel and aluminum is 60% the weight of titanium.. Magnesium is what you want if you are looking for something stiffer and lighter than aluminum but it will break during a hard impact much like glass would
#40
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At what point do we start seeing 3D printed chassis and parts?
Would be so much easier to purchase a license or plan from the manufacture, then have the part printed at my local hobby shop.
So many financial benefits to this distribution model, but is the science there yet?
Would be so much easier to purchase a license or plan from the manufacture, then have the part printed at my local hobby shop.
So many financial benefits to this distribution model, but is the science there yet?
#41
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At what point do we start seeing 3D printed chassis and parts?
Would be so much easier to purchase a license or plan from the manufacture, then have the part printed at my local hobby shop.
So many financial benefits to this distribution model, but is the science there yet?
Would be so much easier to purchase a license or plan from the manufacture, then have the part printed at my local hobby shop.
So many financial benefits to this distribution model, but is the science there yet?
I ordered my self some prototype parts and that was really expensive and the fitment was not perfect. The reason for this is that a molded part will have close tolerances, but a 3D print will have a holes which are 3 to 5 tenth smaller as in the file. These tolerance comes from the resin and laser accuracy. The other down side is the durability of the parts. The resin is only melted layer by layer.
BTW the torsional stiffness of Titanium is not as high as Aluminum, that is the reason why a Bicycle with a Titanium frame feels more comfortable as one with an aluminum frame. Or a aluminum screw brakes and a titanium one bents.
#42
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Most people think 7075 aluminium is the best to have. Well... there is something better called 7068
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7068_aluminium_alloy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7068_aluminium_alloy
Exactly.
#43
If it is all about performance then a difficulty in how to machine should not be an issue.
#45
They say if your not caught, then its not cheating. Say, running below inspection weight or one extra cell. ' ' WEL ' ' I have never done that..
If running a diamond chaises plate would give me an edge, I probably would give it a go..