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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 02-04-2019, 11:13 AM
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Please help me understand the two adjustments on the dampener. What do they do? For example if I move the whole body out to 4mm vs 0. I do not know what to call the other adjustment. Srs? How does that effect shock travel?
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Moving the body outward increases the dampening similar to thicker oil in traditional shocks. Moving the spring ride height block outward increases the spring rate similar to heavier springs in a traditional shocks. This is simplified of course but a quick way to wrap your head around the AWX suspension. Refer to the 800x manual page 23, there's a little more detail and rate charts.
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Does anyone have the distance from the center of the servo, to the ball on the servo horn? Trying to see if the horn I want to use is too short or not. As well, is anyone making low friction belts for the MMCX? I thought about doing the oldschool method and soaking them in WD40.
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Originally Posted by TurboDrifter
Does anyone have the distance from the center of the servo, to the ball on the servo horn? Trying to see if the horn I want to use is too short or not. As well, is anyone making low friction belts for the MMCX? I thought about doing the oldschool method and soaking them in WD40.
Xenon makes some white low friction belts for the MMCX. EA Motorsports has them I think...
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Xenon makes some white low friction belts for the MMCX. EA Motorsports has them I think...
https://teameamotorsports.com/produc...19507853033575
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Awesome, thanks Nicholas / Marcos. Just ordered them.
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The low friction / white belts and pullies are dialed! Even with stock bearings, the car rolls butter smooth and is super free.
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Please help me understand the two adjustments on the dampener. What do they do? For example if I move the whole body out to 4mm vs 0. I do not know what to call the other adjustment. Srs? How does that effect shock travel?
A SETTING:
• Moves whole damper / spring assembly
• Changes both damper and spring rates
• Adjusted by loosening screw through chassis
• Moving the damper/spring assembly closer to the wheel (larger measurement) increases the stiffness of the shock and spring simultaneously.
• A measurement of 4mm is stiffer than a measurement of 1mm.
• This change is similar to shock position on other cars.

B SETTING:
• Moves the spring contact point only (P09x shock spring holder).
• Changes spring rate only
• Adjusted by loosening the SRS screw.
• Moving the shock spring holder closer to the wheel (smaller measurement) increases the stiffness of the spring only.
• A setting of 1mm is stiffer than a setting of 4mm.
• This change is similar to spring rate on other cars.

Refer to the manual for how to measure each setting. It's page 23 of the A800X Evo manual.

Here is a good spring & damper setting chart. Be sure to use the correct one for your springs and RHS position.
Awesomatix A700 Series - Spring Chart
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Compare to normal suspension shock with coil-spring.
To make the suspension stiffer.
Move the shock position more upright (shock and coil spring will be moved together).
On Awesomatix. You can do it by move the damper position (A Setting) closer to the wheel or wider gap.
If you move the damper position closer to the chassis or less gap, it just like you make the shock position more inclined which makes the suspension softer.
When you want harder or softer springs normally you replace them.
​​​​On Awesomatix. You can change the spring rate to be harder by simply move the spring rate screw (SRS) position (B setting) closer to the wheel or less gap to the damper. And do the opposite for softer spring rate. And these adjustments wouldn't effect the shock travel.
Sorry for my english but I hope that may help.
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Are the aluminum battery mounts better at holding their position than the plastic mounts? The plastic mounts are aweful... I have to tighten them down to the chassis every run, and they still normally move a bit during the run.
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I'm currently running the MMCX/aluminum chassis with Brandon Clements setup from IIC equipped with a 13.5T boosted setup. The track I am racing at is Yatabe Arena and were using Sorex 28's (Glued to 59 cm) on Black CRC carpet. At first the setup worked really well, but soon after the car was doing some strange things coming out of a 180 turn. After the apex and under hard acceleration the front right wheel would lift off the ground and the car would sometimes wobble. The the droop, ride height, and all other settings are spot on and the car performs really well on 98% of the track, but it's this one section that's causing issues

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by EDWARD2003
I'm currently running the MMCX/aluminum chassis with Brandon Clements setup from IIC equipped with a 13.5T boosted setup. The track I am racing at is Yatabe Arena and were using Sorex 28's (Glued to 59 cm) on Black CRC carpet. At first the setup worked really well, but soon after the car was doing some strange things coming out of a 180 turn. After the apex and under hard acceleration the front right wheel would lift off the ground and the car would sometimes wobble. The the droop, ride height, and all other settings are spot on and the car performs really well on 98% of the track, but it's this one section that's causing issues
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Did you tried to shift CG more to front? This is one of features of Awesomatix successful setups for black CRC carpet.
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Has anyone set their car up for VTA? I did the and the Protoform VTA wheels rub on the steering arm. I have added some washers, but this does not seem right.

Anyone care to share their setup.
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