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MOTIV M-Code motors, now MC2 for 2017, come pre-set to perform well in most applications. Each MOTIV M-Code motor comes with a specification check list specific to that individual motor. All MOTIV M-Code spec motors come standard with the new "S-HIGH" rotor. If you prefer a different rotor, please send an email via the "Contact Us" page on the Motiv site and reference your order.

Motiv dealers in the U.S. are:

ProLevel RC
Fordham Hobbies
Lefthander RC
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Gripworks RC
Stormer Hobbies
AMain Hobbies
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John's Mobile Raceway / 180 Raceway

& More - Check your local hobby shop!

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MOV2015: GREY GRAPHENE PRO LIPO, 2S SHORTY
  • COMMON APPLICATION: Stock 10th Off Road, Mod 10th off road, F1
  • 95.5mm Length X 46.5mm width X 24.5mm height
  • 5000 MAH, 2S, 100C, 7.6V, 38WH.
  • 5mm through Bullet
  • Weight: 202g
MOV2015: GREY GRAPHENE PRO LIPO
  • COMMON APPLICATION: Stock TC, 4WD Shortcourse, Stock Dirt Oval
  • 137.5mm Length X 46.5mm width X 24.5mm height
  • 8400 MAH, 2S, 100C, 7.6V, 63.8WH.
  • 5mm through Bullet
  • Weight: 329G
MOV2018: GREY GRAPHENE LOW PRO LIPO
  • COMMON APPLICATION: Mod TC, Loose Track Mod Dirt Oval
  • 138.5mm Length X 46.5mm width X 22mm height
  • 6000MAH, 2S, 100C, 7.6V, 45.6WH
  • 5mm Through Bullet
  • Weight: 273g
  • Low CG
MOV2037: LOW PROFILE GREY GRAPHENE 2S LP Shorty
  • COMMON APPLICATION: Mod Offroad, F1
  • 92.7mm Length X 46.5mm width X 18.5mm height
  • 4100MAH, 2S, 90C, 7.6V, 30.4WH
  • 5mm Through Bullet
  • Weight: 153g
  • Low CG

MOV2001: V6000 LIPO
  • COMMON APPLICATION: Stock & Mod 1/12 On-Road and Oval
  • 6000MAH, 1S, 90C+, 3.7V, 22.2WH
  • 4mm Bullet
  • Weight: 150g
MOVXXXX: GREY GRAPHENE PRO LIPO, 1S
  • COMMON APPLICATION: Mod 1/12 and Oval
  • 8200MAH, 1S, 100C, 3.8V, 31.2WH
  • 4mm Bullet
  • Weight: 150g
MC2 Series Brushless Motors

Following are some suggested starting points for the MC2 line of motors for each class (we will update/add to this as often as possible). One key piece to pay attention to when adjusting your motor is Amp Draw. Try to keep spec motors around 3.0.

25.5 F1
FDR: 2.9-3.2
Timing: 42-45* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

25.5 USVTA
FDR: 3.6-3.9
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: 12.3mm standard
Fan: Yes

21.5 USGT
FDR: 3.9-4.1
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.1-4.4
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 3.8-4.0
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 1/12
Rollout: 83-85mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

13.5 TC (Indoor/Small-Std. size Tracks)
FDR: 4.7-4.9
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 TC (Outdoor/Larger Tracks)
FDR: 4.4-4.6
Timing: 46-48* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 1/12
Rollout: 78-80mm
Timing: 44-46* measured on Motolyser
Rotor: S-MID
Fan: No

WGTR
Rollout: 73mm
Timing: 46
Rotor: S-MID for larger tracks. S-HIGH for smaller tracks, or tracks with black carpet.

17.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 5.85-6.0
Timing: 45-48*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

17.5 2WD SC & Stadium Truck
FDR: 7.5-7.8
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

13.5 4WD Buggy
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: 45-47*
Rotor: S-HIGH
Fan: Yes

Following are starting points for Mod motors in the MC1 line

7.5 2WD Buggy
FDR: 10.2
Timing: @ 28*
Rotor: M-MID
Fan: Optional

5.5 TC
FDR: 7.0-7.2
Timing: @ 30*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

4.5 TC
FDR: 7.6-7.8
Timing: @ 20*
Rotor: M-HIGH
Fan: Optional

Every MOTIV Motor is hand checked, assembled and packaged by a professional in house at our WI, USA office. During this process every motor component must meet MOTIV requirements before assembly and packaging. Included is a specification check list which is filled out on a motor to motor basis all through the testing and assembly process to ensure the quality of our finished product


How its Made: Motiv RC Brushless Motor assembly w/ Paul Lemieux

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Old 01-09-2019, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by R Dodge
I don’t want to start any trouble and I appreciate what Howard and the guys at ROAR are doing, but I chatted with Paul about this tonight to find out his side of the story. He mentioned that the 17.5 was submitted a while ago, I see that Howard is working on it now so that is good. But he also mentioned that the 13.5 was submitted only a few weeks after the 17.5. Hopefully this means the 13.5 is not far behind the 17.5 in the approval process.
Yes, the 13.5T motors are also in the queue, but farther back.
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Yes, the 13.5T motors are also in the queue, but farther back.
Great, thanks Howard!
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Originally Posted by howardcano
Yes, the 13.5T motors are also in the queue, but farther back.
ETA on 17.5 being approved?
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Originally Posted by Johnny Carey
ETA on 17.5 being approved?
I'm not the one who issues the approval, so I can't give an ETA.
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Hi,

What timing are people running their MC3?
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What timing/gearing should I be targeting for a smallish turf track (RCHR in CT) for my 2wd Stock Buggy MC3 17.5?

Thanks in advance!
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Hi,

What timing are people running their MC3?
For 17.5 12th scale I have been liking 45-46 degrees of timing. Thats set on a motolyser.
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For 17.5 12th scale I have been liking 45-46 degrees of timing. Thats set on a motolyser.
have you tried it with higher timing in 1/12? mine came with 46*, I couldn’t help myself but to turn it up to 48* on my first run. It ran well and cooler then the MC2. I’m still experimenting with the gearing, I have set it to 51* & and will be trying it out on Sunday. If it’s gets hot or I lose to much on coming out of corners then I will drop it by 2*.
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I thought I give an update on the MC3 after spending today racing it in my 1/12. It’s runs cooler and it has more power then my MC2. The motor does not fade like the MC2. So all in all very pleased with the motor.

I started the day at 51-52* and went down to 48*.

It gave me more torq and ran cooler. I’m still figuring out the correct roll out.
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On another note, I ran the MC3 this past weekend at the Hudy Race in St. Louis, and found it excellent in 17.5 TC. I started with the gearing and timing that Drew recommended from testing earlier, which was a 3.95 FDR and 45* of timing via a motor checker. I ended up running the timing a tiny bit higher at 46*, but was competitive with the R1 and Trinity Monster Max motors that others were running. Obviously periodically check your temps when initially testing gearing and timing, but I found this a strong starting point for indoor carpet in touring car.
Getting my MC3 next week, its hiding somewhere in customs right now, but that FDR is so low, i don't know how you can run it that low, usually everyone at my track runs around 4.7 to 5.5 and with some of the "new" motors, even higher.
My local track is a 28m x 16m with older grey CRC carpet, so the traction is pretty good. But im worried i cook the motor at 4FDR??

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have you tried it with higher timing in 1/12? mine came with 46*, I couldn’t help myself but to turn it up to 48* on my first run. It ran well and cooler then the MC2. I’m still experimenting with the gearing, I have set it to 51* & and will be trying it out on Sunday. If it’s gets hot or I lose to much on coming out of corners then I will drop it by 2*.
Originally Posted by Waztrain1234
I thought I give an update on the MC3 after spending today racing it in my 1/12. It’s runs cooler and it has more power then my MC2. The motor does not fade like the MC2. So all in all very pleased with the motor.

I started the day at 51-52* and went down to 48*.

It gave me more torq and ran cooler. I’m still figuring out the correct roll out.
i see your still working on roll out but where are you at now?
what size track?
how are times compared to the top guy at that track?



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[QUOTE=Waztrain1234;15392605]
I am running the MC3 in GT12 so roll out will different to LMP. So I couldn’t make my mind up between 61.50 or 63.50 roll out.

In qualifying i finished 2nd, the person who beat me was a far better driver as she did 2 more laps then me. She was running the latest Team Power Actinum v3. It was set to 3.8amps, the person who set the motor for her said that he sets all of the motors to 3.8amps on the motorlyser (this included the Motiv MCR and the R1 wurks not sure if it’s the v16 or v21) The guy and the girl were impressed with the v3.

I tried thw motor at 52*, it was pulling 6.2amps and had a Kv of just over 3800. This was on a medium size track and the temps were around 60c. I went down to 48*, pulling around 5amps and the Kv was around 3750-3775. The motor ran cooler, had more torq and didn’t notice any less speed as the rollout was the same.

Next time I race I will be trying it at 45*, it pulls 4.4amps and Kv is around the low 3725. On my motor analyser, the Kv difference at 4.4amp vs 6.2amps is not a lot....it’s minimal.what I have noticed is that the motor really screams/revs when ever you set the timing around 44/45* and when it’s pulling 4.3amps or more. I tried the timing lower at 43* and 42* but the motor just doesn’t scream.
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The 4.4amp setting seems to be the best, but you might want to start playing with gearing....Great info, and good luck.....
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and how are you all figuring settings by amps is the best???????? BERT!

My experience with any motor is KV vs. RPM for starting. no load amp draw is totally different than loaded(on track) amp draw. especially with the new breed motors.
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