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cplus 04-24-2015 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by goin2drt (Post 13977271)
Banzai site just plain sucks since they changed it. I used to shop there all the time and then when then went to the new site unless you know the exact part number it blows. Stopped shopping there and just use RCMart.

There is a workaround for their crappy site.

You need to put a "wrong" URL in and then it takes you to a 404 page where the search box works - even on iPads etc.

You can then search by description rather than part number.

Still sucks, but can find stuff that way.

The other thing to get a hold of is the "Tamiya Parts Matching List" it's valid only up to 418 (but majority consumables are carry over anyway)

cplus 04-24-2015 04:26 PM

Like this:


http://banzaihobby.com/thissiteblows

Then type in a description, then click "all parts matching" at the bottom.

F N CUDA 04-24-2015 07:35 PM

New TRF 419 in the hood ready to roll.

cplus 04-24-2015 08:04 PM

Have you built it yet?

Make sure you have a pack of 3mm & 5mm shims. And consider 4mm and 10mm ones.

Yokomo ones I actually find better than the Tamiya ones. They come in finer gradients.

3racing also make a good set.

Also a good idea to have a 5.5mm spacer set for tuning.

goin2drt 04-24-2015 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by greenpea76 (Post 13977386)
@DRT
The vid of my first 13.5 run is up on TQ youtube channel.. It's not far off from a 17.5 setup I put on another guy's car. The car was good!!

I watched it. Looks good. You had a great run.

F N CUDA 04-25-2015 12:16 AM


Originally Posted by cplus (Post 13977692)
Have you built it yet?

Make sure you have a pack of 3mm & 5mm shims. And consider 4mm and 10mm ones.

Yokomo ones I actually find better than the Tamiya ones. They come in finer gradients.

3racing also make a good set.

Also a good idea to have a 5.5mm spacer set for tuning.

Yep, built and ready to go. Shim work done. Would a been snug without dropping down a couple tenths here and there but after a while, may be just the right sizes to go back to.
I'm talking bout shimming to free up the arms.
Which areas you talking about shims for?
Arms?
Diff o rings and out drives or ballstuds?
Or all the above. ; )

daveaustin5 04-25-2015 12:28 AM

Can anyone recommend some shims for the steering rack?

There's a bit of play on the posts that I'd like to eliminate.

cplus 04-25-2015 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by daveaustin5 (Post 13977903)
Can anyone recommend some shims for the steering rack?

There's a bit of play on the posts that I'd like to eliminate.

You need 0.15mm on the rack.

I have a 0.1mm and a 0.05mm (yokomo) shim on each side.

cplus 04-25-2015 03:54 AM


Originally Posted by F N CUDA (Post 13977894)
Yep, built and ready to go. Shim work done. Would a been snug without dropping down a couple tenths here and there but after a while, may be just the right sizes to go back to.
I'm talking bout shimming to free up the arms.
Which areas you talking about shims for?
Arms?
Diff o rings and out drives or ballstuds?
Or all the above. ; )

3mm shims
Every car (well, every set of arms) seems to be ever so slightly different. So you need to play with the 3mm shims to get it right. I think I've got between 0.2-0.3 on mine generally. Pretty sure 0.25 all round actually. The stock 0.5mm are no chance and the 0.3mm options are still too tight on a new car.

I also ran 0.1 on top of the tube spacer in the chubs originally, but since I've replaced them they don't seem to need it.

If really picky, you can fit 0.05mm under the shock Pistons too. They are much better than the old ones in terms of slop though. I haven't bothered.

4mm shims
For spacing the spur. Getting in slop free and centred. Depends on your brand.

5mm shims
Driveshafts. Common is 0.1mm outside per manual and 0.3mm inside.

An extra 0.05mm on the steering posts - I've placed them on the bottom.

10mm shims
0.4mm on the cups to tighten up the spool and make sure it sits to the right to help stop the belt rubbing on the servo mount screws.

5.5mm Spacer Set
you need these to tune the car. Arms (wheelbase) and camber link heights.

Think that's it! (Other than per manual)

LKF 04-25-2015 10:15 PM

last weekend marc rheinard won the german nationals in front of yannic prumper in berlin.

here are some pictures from a mains modified.

and some pics of marcs trf 419 ( car 1, car 2, car 3, car 4 ) in the techn. inspection.

cplus 04-25-2015 10:19 PM

Again with only a pair of screws in the shock towers.

Interesting idea if nothing else.

Simmi 04-25-2015 11:26 PM

And also 4 Screws in Motor Mount instead of two.

Marcika 04-26-2015 01:44 AM

how guys do you set steering link? I try to be parallel (horizontal) with lower deck. Do you add extra shim?

cplus 04-26-2015 01:59 AM

90deg between the horn line and the link is the gold standard.

I run a direct horn that is a little tall to achieve that, but I get full steering both sides with a bit of expo anyway.

Marcika 04-26-2015 02:14 AM

90 degree sure, i do the same. Whatabout shimming front knuckle?(bump steering if i understand correctly). Thx


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