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Salkin 10-20-2014 01:45 PM

Well I live i Denmark, and I have absolutely no problem getting Tamiya parts. 3-4 shops carry Tamiya parts and several good web shops in the EU are available with low prices and 2 day delivery.

CW22 10-20-2014 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by goin2drt (Post 13605716)
Nicely stated. I would also assume that most of the top drivers could have switched cars and the results would have been close. Give the driver credit here. All those cars are top cars. The better driver won that day. I assume Volker could pick up a clapped out TC4 and get it running pretty darn close.

Very similar to golf. We all want the latest and greatest equipment. Give a top golfer a set of clubs from 1980 and he is going to score very close to that of the best equipment.

There you go! Listen to what my friend said here.
Tamiya is always no. 1 :sneaky:

Dan 10-20-2014 02:02 PM

I don't know about Tamiya being "as expensive as poison outside SE Asia"

It is well equipped for the price you pay (usually only carrying a $50 premium over other similar kits that come less equipped). DCJ's, aluminum steering bellcranks, aluminum turnbuckles, aluminum pulleys. Needs absolutely nothing out of the box. Spares are reasonable too. $7 for a pair of c-hubs while X-ray is $9 for one hub. Granted the X-ray stuff is 2x as tough.

Raman 10-20-2014 02:39 PM

I also question the claim that Tamiya prices are more expensive in Japan. That doesn't make sense, it's the country of origin. In addition, I buy Tamiya spare and hop up parts from Banzai in Japan and prices are incredibly low, 50% lower than TQ and shipping is really inexpensive. So unless I need the parts in 3 to 5 days, I shop in Japan.

Dan 10-20-2014 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by Raman (Post 13606689)
I also question the claim that Tamiya prices are more expensive in Japan. That doesn't make sense, it's the country of origin. In addition, I buy Tamiya spare and hop up parts from Banzai in Japan and prices are incredibly low, 50% lower than TQ and shipping is really inexpensive. So unless I need the parts in 3 to 5 days, I shop in Japan.

+1

I've ordered from Japan before too and its much cheaper for Tamiya parts/upgrades/kits. Same with some Kyosho stuff too.

frozenpod 10-20-2014 02:54 PM

If you want to buy in person in Japan I found there prices to be quite high even from a hobby shop I had purchased online from.

There online prices are often very good though.

cplus 10-20-2014 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by atomic garden (Post 13605653)
i would like to add that they had 3 cars in the main final
......
Hara an ex-WC also drove a yokomo (the winning car) and he didn't make the final

Which event were you watching champ?

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ps9cd2ab94.jpg

goin2drt 10-20-2014 03:09 PM

He stated there were three Tamiyas in the finals, he actually meant four.

cplus 10-20-2014 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by niznai (Post 13606084)
The rest are good at the most at local distribution and Tamiya is expensive as poison outside SE Asia (even in Japan). This made a lot of distributors drop it. In Australia there isn't even an official importer. There is an Xray one though. And a Yokomo dealer (and Losi, and AE, and Team Durango, Schumacher, etc). In Europe I have spoken with a lot of shops that told me they just dropped Tamiya because it was too expensive. And so on.

That's just bollocks.

The 418 was priced everywhere the pretty much the same as the yokomo and xray. All the honkas shops are about the same price for the top cars.

Tower hobbies were even doing it for under $500US. I got mine in the UK for less than $500US. Any price difference - if any - is more than made up for by having stuff like DCJs standard anyway. Not to mention the spare arms, bars, springs etc that all the 418s came with....!

If tamiya is expensive, it's because of importers gouging, not because it is dearer than equivalents. The best bit about Japanese parts is they print the RRP on the header card - do the maths and work out the profit the importer is making......

Parts from places like banzai are cheap as chips. They are cheaper than yokomo typically from banzai. Have a look at the RRP yen prices on the packets and you'll note they are priced cheaper by the factory too. Banzai are firmly a volume = profit business model.

Tamiya is hard to get in australia as the importer is difficult to deal with and also due to the influx of cheap nylon kits like hobao is seen as expensive.

TRF is IMPOSSIBLE to get in australia as the difficult to deal with importer doesn't think they will make enough money so refuses to import it.

Hero cars sell the mundane ones in the range though - they are doing it wrong.

cplus 10-20-2014 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by goin2drt (Post 13606759)
He stated there were three Tamiyas in the finals, he actually meant four.

And the Hara "observation"? :D

goin2drt 10-20-2014 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by cplus (Post 13606767)
And the Hara "observation"? :D

That he was driving a Yokomo like the winner was driving.

cplus 10-20-2014 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by goin2drt (Post 13606786)
That he was driving a Yokomo like the winner was driving.

I'm referring to the "he didn't even make the final" comment.

Genuinely interested to know which event he was watching.

Sounds more like the pre worlds? (3 tamiyas and no Hara)

frozenpod 10-20-2014 05:50 PM

cplus the 418 was $50-60 cheaper including the spare plastics, tuning springs and sway bars in Feb 2014 from HK.

I would have purchased one but there was no local parts support.

EDWARD2003 10-20-2014 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by frozenpod (Post 13606722)
If you want to buy in person in Japan I found there prices to be quite high even from a hobby shop I had purchased online from.

There online prices are often very good though.

Hobby shop prices are ridiculously expensive. I'm all for supporting hobby shops, but the prices here in Japan are astronomical. I prefer to buy the kit online and support the hobby shop by buying parts and smaller items.

cplus 10-20-2014 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by frozenpod (Post 13607122)
cplus the 418 was $50-60 cheaper including the spare plastics, tuning springs and sway bars in Feb 2014 from HK.

I would have purchased one but there was no local parts support.

Where is local for you?

Wherever it is, I've got no doubt it was cheaper in HK at various times. My point was it would have been very little between it and the BD7/T4 when comparing in the same location.


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