tc3blue

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Hey,

After almost 2 months of driving the included SKODA body on my JRX-S, I'm looking for a new body; not because I don't like the SKODA anymore, but because it was the only body I used and it's kinda beat up.

I'm not a beginner, but I'm definitely not a pro either.
I know some people say that they can FEEL the difference btw bodies (and I'm not talking about the difference between a HUMMER body and a Stratus-I can feel that...lol, I'm talking about the ones listed below), but before I buy one, I would like to get an honest answer:

Can you really feel the difference between a Parma Alfa, Dodge Stratus 3.0C, and Mazda 6, if so...which one's the best for what I'm doing?

BTW, I'm racing STOCK, FOAMS on CARPET.

Thanks!

ALBERTO

iTrader: (23)

the parma alfa is my personal favorate.. and tha stratus 3.0 is my next favorate.. I too race on carpert

Jon Kerr

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Yes, there really is a big difference. I'm not a carpet racer but I've always heard that the Parma Alpha in the one to run for foam on carpet.

A good example was a couple weekes ago. During practice I had the car working fairly well with the Ride Honda Accord. Just a little pushey. I wanted to try the Yokomo Stratus E body. I pulled it off after two laps with that body it was so tail happy. It took the car from being on the tight side to uncontrollably loose. I put the Ride body back on and went right back out and right back to being a little tight. So yes, there is a noticable difference between bodies.

BlackKat

I race carpet only (one of the only carpet-only racers in CA) and I found in foam 19t and Mod the body to run is the Parma Alfa. A couple of my pals are telling me to try the Cadillac but I don't think it'll touch the Alfa.

AdrianM

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For foam the only way to go is Parma Alfa

ChadCapece

I would imagine carpet is less noticable between bodies than asphalt. Just due to the low traction and naturally higher speeds on asphalt.

AdrianM

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Actually its quite noticeable on carpet. The Proto-form Mazda 6' and Strat 3.0 are awesome on asphalt for the massive down force and steering they produce. On carpet these traits yield a car that is glued to the track and very inefficient/hard to drive.

The Proto-form Strat 3.0 Carpet version and Alfa 2.0 are more balanced and work well on carpet but they weigh ~10% more than the Parma body and that is all high weight that really effects the car's CG. I didn't believe this until I weighed bodies back to back for myself.

I really prefer the looks of the Proto-form bodies and that is all I will ever use on asphalt or carpet with rubber tires but on foam tires the Parma is the way to go.

Jon Kerr

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I couldn't belive the weight difference between the Ride body and the Proto bodies.

BrainTeased

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whats the weight difference may i ask?

TryHard

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About 10g or so, at least thats what I got when I weighed my mazda6 back to back with my Ride Stratus. (and there is now difference in paint scheme, so that would only account for a small amount). The ride deffiently uses thinner lexan in some places though.

HiH
Ed

teamgp

This is true. But if your running foams on carpet, then the rules normally allow any shore rating which gives you a wide variety of grip choice. What I've done is used the Mazda 6 in conjunction with harder compound tires that provide less grip, especially in the front. The advantages are a longer life for the tires and less chunking.

Of course if your prone to hitting things and drastically changing the body downforce, then this may not be a good idea.

Jon Kerr

iTrader: (17)

About 11 grams. Same painter doing the same paint scheme so the amount of paint should be the same.

AdrianM

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Body Weights:

Parma Alfa: 102g Stickered RTR
Yokomo Type E: 104g Stickered RTR
Proto Alfa 2.0: 108g w/o Decals
Proto Alfa 2.0: 99g Almost see through, one color silver practice body w/o Decals
Proto Mazda 6: 112g Stickered RTR

All the same painter except the Practice Alfa and the Yok. The Yok actually has a lot of paint on it!

This is interesting as you can see what intricate paint jobs and decals can do for the weight of a body. Apples to apples though the Protoform bodies are a little heavier...10G on average.

For Foam tire Carpet this is a big deal but for Asphalt its not at all an issue. The aerodynamics of the Protoform bodies are so superior that you pretty much need a Mazda 6 or Stratus 3.0AP to be competitive at high level Carpet or Asphalt rubber tire racing.

tc3blue

iTrader: (10)

Wow, lots of comments!

Thanks a lot!

My next carpet/foam tire body: PARMA ALFA