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Old 03-19-2018, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Adamska27
This is just flat wrong
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The multiplier helps you find same size spur/pinion, if both change with same multiplier ger ratio remains unchanged. Still, size matching is pretty important to make sure you do not exceed space for gears when jumping from 64p to 48p.
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Originally Posted by Adamska27
This is just flat wrong
For example, you can get an 80 tooth spur in either pitch, and would therefore run the same pinion on either gear, just different pitch

Gear ratio = spur/pinion
so if 64p is 100/40 lets say, = 2.5
the 48p spur you're trying to match is say, 90T 48P
90/2.5=36 - you run a 36 tooth pinion to get the same ratio
(40*.75=30 you would be 6 teeth off in this case)

All we mean by gear ratio is how many motor rotations it takes for one rotation of the spur gear, you have to spin a 40 tooth pinion 2.5 times to rotate a 100 tooth spur gear one time
The conversion ratio he posted is correct. When switching pitches you look for like diameter gears, not teeth. Here is the actual formula.

OD=(N+2)/DP N = number of teeth DP = Diametral Pitch

80t 48p (80+2)/48 = 1.708"

80t 64p (80+2)/64 = 1.281"

You can check the conversion ratios here to see he was correct, 1.708*.75 and 1.281*1.333.

To find the eq of a gear you have in your hand, measure the OD, multiply by the pitch you want to switch to, and subtract 2.

Example, that 80t 48 pitch to a 64p is (1.708"*64)-2 = 107.31

So you would go by a 108 and then use ratio math to find the pinion you want.
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Originally Posted by Adamska27
This is just flat wrong
For example, you can get an 80 tooth spur in either pitch, and would therefore run the same pinion on either gear, just different pitch
Oops, looks like Yorick and PROMODVETTE already covered this
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Originally Posted by Darkgenerals
Need a little bit of help, took my car out for the first time this weekend. On black carpet I'm getting rear wheel hop when coming around corners while on slight power. Everything else feels good so far.

This maybe normal, as this is my first time running the car.
I've had this issue as well. With a tight diff that you need on black carpet it tends to happen when you use more than 2mm rear axle shims
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Originally Posted by Darkgenerals
Whats a good 64P pinion to start with?

I noticed this setup sheet is using 48P.
The question was not diameter, but teeth
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Originally Posted by Darkgenerals
A little follow up, I have a 100 tooth spur currently but thinking of ordering an 82 tooth for more options.
And has fixed gear size.....
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Originally Posted by RedBMaster
I've had this issue as well. With a tight diff that you need on black carpet it tends to happen when you use more than 2mm rear axle shims
I'm pretty sure the car is right at 2mm of shim. I may back it off a little bit and see how it reacts
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Originally Posted by Adamska27
And has fixed gear size.....
Just to put some closer to this, I ended up using a 30 tooth pionon. I tried 36 and it was to much for me, 30 had the perfect amount of top speed
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I'm looking for tires for asphalt. What brand does everyone recommend? Gravity still a good choice?
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See what the fast guys run at your track. Different tracks favor different tires. I've tried a lot of tires but keep going back to the Shimizu 571/572 (Tamiya TCS tires, CRC tires) These worked well at our old asphalt track.
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Originally Posted by Dan
See what the fast guys run at your track. Different tracks favor different tires. I've tried a lot of tires but keep going back to the Shimizu 571/572 (Tamiya TCS tires, CRC tires) These worked well at our old asphalt track.
That’s what we use as well...
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Originally Posted by RedBMaster
I've had this issue as well. With a tight diff that you need on black carpet it tends to happen when you use more than 2mm rear axle shims
New shims ordered, I also got the 2016 free float servo mount installed and the aluminum servo saver/arm thingy.

I noticed previous PO had 1mm shims under the lower arms, and kit calls for 2 mm. so I changed that out as well. Hopefully I can get some time in the next few weeks to take the car out.
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Has anyone tried the 2mm (narrow) chassis on asphalt? Trying to figure out why no one (or team drivers) is using it on asphalt with rubber tires.

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Old 03-27-2018, 05:25 AM
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If you swap out gears or adjust the rear pod reset the gear mesh. If you adjust, loosen any rear pod screws reset the mesh. Also, make sure the ride height cups match and installed correctly. Sounds like common sense but sometimes that's the cause.
Originally Posted by Theetonster
Just finished my 2018 x1 build. Tried it out at the track and spur is a little chewed up. I know how to set the mesh properly. Just wondering if anyone knows what causes it? and if there's another brand of spur that will work? since nobody here in the US has xray spurs in stock.
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Originally Posted by XrayAllDay1
Has anyone tried the 2mm (narrow) chassis on asphalt? Trying to figure out why no one (or team drivers) is using it on asphalt with rubber tires.
I want to try it, it's probably good for low to very low to med bite conditions.

I think most outdoor setups are on the standard graphite chassis.

with more lube on the sides, stiffer springs and the right track width and inline setup on the battery you should be good to go. tires of course make a difference too.
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