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03-22-2013, 09:31 AM
#91
GT bodies with mod motors? 
Good luck with that. As speed increases, the poor handling characteristics of most GT shells will become all too apparent. It will probably end up being an NSX class.
If the point of scale shells is to create new interest, I have to ask, do you really want new people driving ill handling, overpowered cars? They will be more inclined to quit right away and never come back.
Just seems strange to me. GT shells work okay at 21.5 blinky speeds. Much quicker than that and most of the shells straight up suck.
Good luck with that. As speed increases, the poor handling characteristics of most GT shells will become all too apparent. It will probably end up being an NSX class. If the point of scale shells is to create new interest, I have to ask, do you really want new people driving ill handling, overpowered cars? They will be more inclined to quit right away and never come back.
Just seems strange to me. GT shells work okay at 21.5 blinky speeds. Much quicker than that and most of the shells straight up suck.
Do you still disagree 100% Martin?
03-22-2013, 02:13 PM
#93
Let's be cliche and say Practice, practice, practice...
But seriously, I like 5.5's on tracks under 120 ft. They can be made to have plenty of top end and are far more driveable than lower winds at low speed. They tend to allow you to mash the throttle a bit harder. They will never feel like a 17.5, but they will be pretty smooth once you get up to speed.
I like some boost with the 5.5 along with a smaller pinion. Typically I gear around a 20/84 on my T4 on a 110 ft straight. I like to play around with my boost curve (start and end rpm) to make sure I can control when it kicks in. I run start 6k to 8k - end 20k to 24k RPM and play with that range. Turbo is used for top speed and boost is used sort of as the "punch" or the "power" of the car. On this 110ft track I use about 20 degrees of boost and 10 degrees of Turbo. All of this is with a HW V3.
I also like using anywhere form 7-10% of negative throttle curve to mellow out the rip when I first get on it.
However, all of this is useless if the motor is not the right one and it is not tuned right. Some motors make a lot of bottom end. Some are way smoother. Tekin Gen 2's are super smooth. Orion and Peak Previous gen motors are very powerful. Reedy is somewhere in between. If your track is smallish, try something like a Tekin and/or don't use a lot of end bell timing if you don't like violent power engagement. Start at 0 and adjust slowly until you feel comfortable.
But seriously, I like 5.5's on tracks under 120 ft. They can be made to have plenty of top end and are far more driveable than lower winds at low speed. They tend to allow you to mash the throttle a bit harder. They will never feel like a 17.5, but they will be pretty smooth once you get up to speed.
I like some boost with the 5.5 along with a smaller pinion. Typically I gear around a 20/84 on my T4 on a 110 ft straight. I like to play around with my boost curve (start and end rpm) to make sure I can control when it kicks in. I run start 6k to 8k - end 20k to 24k RPM and play with that range. Turbo is used for top speed and boost is used sort of as the "punch" or the "power" of the car. On this 110ft track I use about 20 degrees of boost and 10 degrees of Turbo. All of this is with a HW V3.
I also like using anywhere form 7-10% of negative throttle curve to mellow out the rip when I first get on it.
However, all of this is useless if the motor is not the right one and it is not tuned right. Some motors make a lot of bottom end. Some are way smoother. Tekin Gen 2's are super smooth. Orion and Peak Previous gen motors are very powerful. Reedy is somewhere in between. If your track is smallish, try something like a Tekin and/or don't use a lot of end bell timing if you don't like violent power engagement. Start at 0 and adjust slowly until you feel comfortable.
I'm going to try using a little boost this weekend. Last two times out I just geared it as if it had no timing, and put in 6° of turbo, and had a .6 sec delay, as if it was a high gear that only kicked in on the straight. So, I backed off the endbell timing, geared down a bit, and am going to try running a little boost. I'm using a Reedy 5.0, in a TC6.1 on a small/mid size asphalt track. NorCal Hobbies to be exact.
Any feedback would be appreciated. I don't want to make the car undriveable, but it was a bit sluggish in the infield with the settings prior.
Thanks
03-22-2013, 02:28 PM
#95
03-22-2013, 02:43 PM
#97
Which speed passion esc is it? If it is a HW based GT2.1 I would download the latest software from HW or speed passion for it. You should be able to adjust the start timing and then you calculate the end RPM by the deg/rpm adjustment.
1000 rpm is too low to start. You should be looking at an 8k-12k rpm start with 750 rpm/deg. Boost should be 10-18 deg and turbo should be adjusted for top speed.
How big is your track?
1000 rpm is too low to start. You should be looking at an 8k-12k rpm start with 750 rpm/deg. Boost should be 10-18 deg and turbo should be adjusted for top speed.
How big is your track?
03-22-2013, 02:47 PM
#99
Which speed passion esc is it? If it is a HW based GT2.1 I would download the latest software from HW or speed passion for it. You should be able to adjust the start timing and then you calculate the end RPM by the deg/rpm adjustment.
1000 rpm is too low to start. You should be looking at an 8k-12k rpm start with 750 rpm/deg. Boost should be 10-18 deg and turbo should be adjusted for top speed.
How big is your track?
1000 rpm is too low to start. You should be looking at an 8k-12k rpm start with 750 rpm/deg. Boost should be 10-18 deg and turbo should be adjusted for top speed.
How big is your track?
03-22-2013, 03:01 PM
#100
Which speed passion esc is it? If it is a HW based GT2.1 I would download the latest software from HW or speed passion for it. You should be able to adjust the start timing and then you calculate the end RPM by the deg/rpm adjustment.
1000 rpm is too low to start. You should be looking at an 8k-12k rpm start with 750 rpm/deg. Boost should be 10-18 deg and turbo should be adjusted for top speed.
How big is your track?
1000 rpm is too low to start. You should be looking at an 8k-12k rpm start with 750 rpm/deg. Boost should be 10-18 deg and turbo should be adjusted for top speed.
How big is your track?
03-22-2013, 03:27 PM
#102
Nice video Pattojnr, these other cars just could not keep up...... I think they probably had 4.5t to 5.5t motors.... 3.5t motors rule......
03-22-2013, 04:53 PM
#103
03-22-2013, 05:38 PM
#104
Most speedos can't handle it, and the drivetrain part will also quit(belt cars), not a tc4...lol....
