Foam vs Rubber Tires
#46
Tech Regular
Originally posted by RC Driver Gary
The biggest thing is that the Foam/Rubber arguement is like talking politics. If someone is on one side, it's next to impossible to bring them over to your side. I don't like foam, I hate it, I think it makes for crap racing...Do I expect to change anyones point of view? Not really.
The biggest thing is that the Foam/Rubber arguement is like talking politics. If someone is on one side, it's next to impossible to bring them over to your side. I don't like foam, I hate it, I think it makes for crap racing...Do I expect to change anyones point of view? Not really.
#48
Tech Regular
do you have a rubber tire carpet class?
#50
Tech Regular
How long do rubbers last on carpet?
#51
Tech Regular
Originally posted by Mal
Chad,
that would actually push me toward leaving the hobby. Not sure if I would actually quit on the spot though.
Also, didn't people run the 2002 indoor nats on rubber tires? I didn't see people having problems with a lack of grip in that race. Even the mod drivers seems like they had ample traction.
Chad,
that would actually push me toward leaving the hobby. Not sure if I would actually quit on the spot though.
Also, didn't people run the 2002 indoor nats on rubber tires? I didn't see people having problems with a lack of grip in that race. Even the mod drivers seems like they had ample traction.
#52
Tech Champion
iTrader: (3)
Depends how agressive you want to be on your setup. The guys running at the top of the feild right now...I'd say 4-6 weeks. One of the local was getting 40-50 runs out of his tires and he'd still be a top 5 car every week. He simply adjusted his setup as the tires wore to maintain his laptimes. Now I have gone so agressive on my setups that 4-5 runs and they're toast, but I did that deliberately to get as much speed out of the car as possible. I'd say average is easy 4-6 weeks though.
#53
Tech Regular
well that beats foam im gona try to start a rubber class now.
#54
Tech Regular
Originally posted by RC Driver Gary
That's all that's being run right now actually, foam has died here because people have gotten priced out of it.
That's all that's being run right now actually, foam has died here because people have gotten priced out of it.
#56
Tech Regular
I know Chris he is a great guy. where do you run at?
#57
Tech Champion
iTrader: (3)
Originally posted by ChadK
That is interesting around here stock and 19t race on rubber mod on foam. At our track a number of the 19t racers are switching to mod because they are tired of dealing with the rubber tires. There switch is also driven by $$ because for the last couple 2 day races the were buying 2-3 sets of rubbers to keep the car consistant and saw that I would run the same foam set all weekend.
That is interesting around here stock and 19t race on rubber mod on foam. At our track a number of the 19t racers are switching to mod because they are tired of dealing with the rubber tires. There switch is also driven by $$ because for the last couple 2 day races the were buying 2-3 sets of rubbers to keep the car consistant and saw that I would run the same foam set all weekend.
#59
Tech Regular
Originally posted by RC Driver Gary
Well, I don't know if I would classify him as a "Great" guy, but he's ok...At least he's not as bad a Palmer
I race at Trackside.
Well, I don't know if I would classify him as a "Great" guy, but he's ok...At least he's not as bad a Palmer
I race at Trackside.
#60
Originally posted by JKA
Why? Its a TC afterall. What inherent difference makes it okay for nitro to run foam but not okay for electric?
Why? Its a TC afterall. What inherent difference makes it okay for nitro to run foam but not okay for electric?
Nitro:
-Rubber tires are made to have heat cycles that last 5-8 minutes. This is when the rubber heats up and gives good traction. When the race is over, the tire is allowed to cool down and the molecules regain their tight structure. If a tire is pushed to hard, the tire will overheat, and start to "feather" and lines will form across the contact patch.
-Longer mains which will shred up rubber tires due to the intense heat cycle that last 45 minutes.
-A nitro heat usually last 8 minutes. 3 minutes of warm-up and 5 minutes of racing.
-Nitro cars need the traction that rubber tires create due to the high (for their scale) g-forces since they weight so much.
-A foam tire is the same tire from the first run, to the next to last run. So as the tire experiences the 9 heat cycles during the main, it will not change the setup as drastically as a rubber tire would. Only change would be the castor and roll-center.
Electric:
-Most of the world runs rubber tires.
-More realistic.
-Cheaper for the average track.
-Tires only experience one heat cycle per race.
-Electric cars are lighter so they don't need the foam traction.
-Foams will chunk
-Rubber tires will not chunk.