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addicted2blue 03-28-2015 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Jamesd848 (Post 13930568)
So I will just be using it as a basher, that's not to say I won't set up a course and race it, not competive racing though. I wanna make it good, so I guess I'll get the standard tt02 and get bearings and shocks. Although, how bad are the stock friction shocks for bashing, can I get similar performance with different springs?

The better choice would be the TT-02D, TT-02S (better suspension) or the TT-02D version and choose a body, motor&ESC that you like.
They all have some oil filled shocks,bearings and in case of the TT-02D it also has the better (grey) uprights.
My personal choice would be a TT-02R or the TT-02S, this is the best value for money.

Just my personal opinion

Djchow85 03-28-2015 05:35 PM

As addicted said the latter tt02 models will give you more options, from memory some parts are stronger like the hubs.

If you're thinking of racing and can get a body locally that'll save you on shipping eg a TC body for about $20USD. Unless you combine it. If you get a shock kit with included various spring rates it'll let you experiment.

MD 03-28-2015 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Jamesd848 (Post 13930568)
So I will just be using it as a basher, that's not to say I won't set up a course and race it, not competive racing though. I wanna make it good, so I guess I'll get the standard tt02 and get bearings and shocks. Although, how bad are the stock friction shocks for bashing, can I get similar performance with different springs?

If you're bashing you will break steering uprights.

Jamesd848 03-28-2015 09:00 PM

(First off, sorry about no urls, apparently I dont have enough posts on rctech yet. Understandable. Just copy and paste the name into google, and click on rc mart links)
So, I think I figured out what I am gonna do.
I was browsing on Rcmart and saw this
Tamiya 1/10 TT02 Zakspeed Capri Jager w/ ESC Motor Servo 2.4GHz Radio ARTR Combo Set #CB0770
It is the tt02, i dont know which type, but it has oil filled shocks, but no bearings. Which of course I can get
another plus is that it has an esc that can run brushed and brushless motors.
So in the title it says it comes with a radio system, but in the needed section it says it needs one. I am just gonna assume that it comes with one, and if not, well I can order one.
It also says it needs paint, does anyone know what type of paint I need, I'll probably get some off of amazon, cause I have prime
So any other things I need,
I was thinking of getting possible these upgrades, definetly the screw set and bearings
Yeah Racing RC Ball Bearing Set with Bearing Oil For Tamiya TT02 #YB0274MX
Yeah Racing Shock-Gear 50mm Damper Set for 1/10 RC Touring Car Blue #DSG-0050BU
(Although it says shocks are oil filled so a big maybe on these, if needed probs down the road)
Yeah Racing Titanium Screw Assorted Set w/ FREE Mini box for Tamiya TT02 #TS-TT02
Everyone was talking about steering uprights, I can't seem to find them could someone post a link to them, also are they good to upgrade to aluminium (Like if possible, is it actually a good move)
Is there anything else I should get?
I know I have 2200mah lipos, but I should probs get a 5000 mah one or so. I like turnigy bc they are cheap and good, so if someone could
A. post the battery tray dimensions, and the amount of give (Like say its 103, but you could fit a 105)
B. share a battery that is good but not too expinsive
Also, I have a feeling the tires that come on this are drift tires, so does anyone know of good on road threaded tires that work well for this car?

Camocrouch 03-29-2015 04:41 AM

Hi James,

I wish I had completed my Type S setup so I could give you some good comparison points vs the other versions. I think the Type S has great potential for everything - drift, race, rally!

But let me try and respond to your queries in order.

I use turnigy 5000mah 7.4v lipos and they fit very snugly - just right. I think the hobbyking website has precise measurements, otherwise I can get the digital calipers out!

Definitely recommend bearings (at least in the drivetrain), servo saver and oil shocks as initial upgrades.
Yes, you will notice a massive improvement with oil shocks - much less bouncy. This is particularly relevant if your doing any sort of off-road. I doubt changing the springs on the stock friction shocks will improve them much.
If you are going off-road try and get blue-sealed ball bearings.
If you want to drift / tail out consider putting tamiya anti-wear grease into the rear diff.
If you can, an alloy steering setup with steering ball bearings makes a significant
improvement. I like the Eagle Racing one from the Broadtech website.
A parts (unless using the Type S) as spares would probably be a good idea, the difrt version ones of possible as they're stronger. Do not get the low-friction tamiya step screws for the steering posts, they snap easily.
Also highly recommend a Square brand TT-01 suspension guard (look on Banzai Hobby website) - I'm yet to break anything in the suspension area using these.

I actually differ from some people - I actually prefer titanium hex screws. They are a pain to get in and out (don't try and use an allen key, get a proper handle one) but I hate the way the stock tapping screws get loose over time if you take them in and out repeatedly.

I haven't seen a TT02 kit with oil shocks but no bearings before - I'd be double checking before purchasing.
The Zakspeed model I think should just be the stock TT02.
Paint would be Tamiya PS spray paint. It's a flexible paint designed for RC bodies.

If you can get a kit with an ESC that's good as they're a bit more cost effective that way.
The TBLE Tamiya ESC is good as you mention as it can run some brushless motors down the track.

Steering uprights are the part the wheel connects to and are part of the 'A' parts tree.
Up to you re alloy upgrade, alloy is stronger and sometimes lighter, but can bend.
Plastic has some flex to it and can sometimes bounce back.

If it is not advertised as the Drift model (TT-02D) it should not come with drift tyres.

So, what do I recommend?
If you are just using it as a basher I would cost up both the Type S and the Type D (Drift) and see if either works out significantly cheaper.
Neither comes with a body but you can get a cheap one pre-painted off eBay ideal to bash about.
The drift one will come with the reinforced bits, bearings, oil shocks, faster motor. You'll need to invest in proper grip tyres though
The Type S gets you a better suspension design, bearings, oil shocks, servo saver and I think would be a more competitive racer but may not be as durable for bashing.
I'm leaning towards the Drift Spec.

Good luck - Lettuce know how you go.
Cheers,
Crouch

addicted2blue 03-29-2015 05:45 AM

The TT-02 Zakspeed Capri does come with a transmitter and 2 servo's.
But i doubt the car will have oil filled dampers, they are probably coil over friction dampers, tires are not for drifting. Cause the rear tires shoud be a wide version (30mm).

Although i did use some hex screws on my TT-02 you could use the standard kit supplied screws.
With bot type of screws you can damage the thread, to solve this you MUST (before screwing the screws in) turn your screwdriver counter clockwise untill you hear/feel a little click.
That click will Ensure you are using the same thread as the screw was turned loose, then thighten the screw untill it needs more force (that's when you need to stop with thightning the screw).
When you do this, you should be able to not damage the thread for a long time.
I've had my TT-02 from the beginning it came out and still had not 1 damaged thread.
I sold the car about a month ago.

Those reinforced grey A-parts are only incuded with a TT-02D version and are not available seperately.
Allthough they can be found in german hobby shops like seidel.de

About the TT-02S version, i wouldn't recommend to buy this kit when you would like to rally with the car.
The suspension is developped for racing purpose and not for rally.

If you want the best strenght out of the standard steering blocks, build your car like the rally version and build your dampers to the correct size with TRF short touring springs.
I've done this and my car had a ride height of 5mm and from since i had done this my steering blocks were just fine even if my youngest girl hit the boards or had some crashes.

For a good information source look at thercracer, link below
http://www.thercracer.com/2014/08/ta...-and-tips.html

Hope this helps you a lot

Jamesd848 03-29-2015 10:43 AM

So, I know people are saying get the tt02d.
My thing is that that tt02 is on sale, so I wanna get that
the only thing I think I absolutely need to add are bearings and springs, which I am doing. I am also getting that ball bearing steering set
Here are the names, still dont have enough posts yet.
Yeah Racing Aluminum Ball Bearing Steering Set For Tamiya TT02 #TT02-042BU
Yeah Racing Titanium Screw Assorted Set w/ FREE Mini box for Tamiya TT02 #TS-TT02
Yeah Racing RC Teflon Bearing Set with Bearing Oil For Tamiya TT02 #YB0274BX
Tamiya No.1527 SP.1527 TT-02 A Parts RC Spare Parts (Upright) 51527 Tamiya (Amazon) (Not the 100 dollar one)
Is this all I need, will this setup be good?
for batteries, which ones do you use
Turnigy 5200mAh 2S 30C Hard-Case Car Lipo Pack (ROAR APPROVED) (US Warehouse)
Turnigy 5000mAh 2S2P 40C Hardcase Pack (ROAR APPROVED) (US Warehouse)
Turnigy 5000mAh 2S 30C Lipo Pack (US Warehouse)
Anything else I am missing? Also, People say that tamiya bodies are really great on detail. I know that, but I still wanna run this body, so if need be could I at one time or another get a replacement one?

Velineon 03-29-2015 11:38 AM

Don't forget a set of real shocks. Dollar Hobbyz has Nitro RS4 shocks for about $15 and those would probably work.

Jamesd848 03-29-2015 11:49 AM

derp forgot to add those
here they are, should I be getting 50 or 55 mm ones?
Yeah Racing Shock-Gear 50mm Damper Set for 1/10 RC Touring Car Blue #DSG-0050BU
deal is my cart right now is 150, with better upgrades than the tt02 s, and it has everything :)

Camocrouch 03-30-2015 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by addicted2blue (Post 13931274)
Those reinforced grey A-parts are only incuded with a TT-02D version and are not available seperately.
Allthough they can be found in german hobby shops like seidel.de

About the TT-02S version, i wouldn't recommend to buy this kit when you would like to rally with the car.
The suspension is developped for racing purpose and not for rally.

Hi Blue,

Banzai Hobby have been quite helpful for me ordering the TT02 Drift reinforced A parts as a spare part.
Takes a little longer and costs a little more but still good value.
Link here: http://banzaihobby.com/tamiya-19000614 .

I'm going to try the Type S as a rally soon - The design is similar to that used in the TT-02B buggy so i'm hoping it will work as well and be durable. I'll be sure to post up my findings!

Cheers,
Crouch

Smile 04-05-2015 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by Camocrouch (Post 13898671)
Hey all,

Need some help with a couple of TT-02 problems.

Firstly I've got two that have started making a significant rattle from the driveline area. Happens on acceleration and reverse.
Sounds like it's somewhere in the diffs or along the driveshaft but I've exaimined everywhere and can't seem to track it down.
One of them has bearings along the drivetrain the other the stock plastic bushings but both making almost identical noise even after a fesh strip down and clean.
Thoughts?

Secondly I've got one (and I know DJ has had a similar issue) where it pulls significantly to one side.
its quite a significant hard turn mainly when not on power - I've checked for binding in the steering and front uprights, put a servo saver on, put a new servo in, checked the wheels spin freely, checked all the wheels slow down at the same rate when bench testing, checked the drivetrain bearings have no drag, no missing teeth on any cog or in the diffs, the servo seems to centre reasonably well and am now in the process of stripping the driveline and diffs.
This diffs do feel a bit gritty so I might fully clean them but does anyone else have any suggestions on where I can look to find the source of this problem? Is there any chance it could be my radio gear?

Many thanks in advance.
Crouch

If there is really no binding anywhere, i'd start looking at the diffs. I once had my XV01 oversteering like crazy towards the right, and understeering towards the left. I checked everything: toe, shocks, binding, camber and didn't see any problems.

I then checked the diff. Although it was dryer than usual, wierdly everything looked okay and diff action was smooth. There was a clicking sound in the rear under acceleration though, so I decided to change the internal diff gears. After that, everything seemed to run okay.

Moral of the story is, if everything seems normal, but the handling is widely different when comparing turning left and turming right, the problem probably lies within the differential.

Greenscorcher 04-07-2015 07:56 PM

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Camocrouch 04-08-2015 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by Smile (Post 13943724)
If there is really no binding anywhere, i'd start looking at the diffs. I once had my XV01 oversteering like crazy towards the right, and understeering towards the left. I checked everything: toe, shocks, binding, camber and didn't see any problems.

I then checked the diff. Although it was dryer than usual, wierdly everything looked okay and diff action was smooth. There was a clicking sound in the rear under acceleration though, so I decided to change the internal diff gears. After that, everything seemed to run okay.

Moral of the story is, if everything seems normal, but the handling is widely different when comparing turning left and turming right, the problem probably lies within the differential.

Cheers Smile.

I swapped out both diffs for new ones just recently, still seemed to have some problems so basically swapped out the entire steering, front arms and uprights.
Still not 100% but much better.
Might try the rear suspension too, perhaps something is bent there.
Guess that's the risk you run buying used!

I think I also figured out the clicking noise - think it was one of the bevel gears but waiting on new parts to confirm.

Cheers,
Crouch

SagadSetup 04-13-2015 06:38 PM

Guys I have a quick question. Does the TT02S have a wider stance than the TT02R? I'm thinking the TT02S is wider because it uses a different kind of suspension arms. Am I right there?

drewbagel423 04-14-2015 09:20 AM

Those of you that drift your TT-02, some have said that 50/50 drifting of a shaft-drive 4WD gets old fairly quickly, and they move to a belt-drive so that they can countersteer instead. Do any of you feel this way?


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