Hot Bodies Cyclone
11-07-2007, 07:02 AM
Tech Rookie
What do the 18t pulleys do? are the worth to buy?
11-07-2007, 07:08 AM
they lower the intermal ration of the care so you don't need to run a 80/55 to get the speed out of your BL motor
11-07-2007, 07:13 AM
Not necessary, but id do them, its only 10 bucks, not that bad
11-07-2007, 07:40 PM
ok I've wondered something for awhile about spacers under the pivot blocks. I have an "S" upgraded with 3 racing parts so that almost all the plastic is gone. You said you used a 0 degree block on the front with 1 mm spacers under the blocks. I've tried that with my Cyclone and it just won't work. The arms rub against the bulkheads.... not to mention the steering turnbuckles hitting the FR pivot. Most setups I've seen that have raised the front blocks are using the 2.5 degree. That I could possibly see because it would move the arms a little away from the bulkhead. How did you get yours to work.... any modifications?
I'm from the Omaha area but unfortunately couldn't race last weekend. Wish I could have seen your Cyclone run... unfortunately I'm about the only Cyclone guy around running TC anymore. Hope you enjoyed our facility!!
I'm from the Omaha area but unfortunately couldn't race last weekend. Wish I could have seen your Cyclone run... unfortunately I'm about the only Cyclone guy around running TC anymore. Hope you enjoyed our facility!!
Also note that they will hit if the wheels arent on the ground (which would'nt be the normal thing for wheels to do while the car is in motion!).
With arms rubbing the bulkheads im not exactly sure how that is possible, you will need to be more specific. About the point at which they are rubbing. But note if you are still running the plastic FR RF blocks then they are already raised, and if you are running the aluminium ones you will need to raise them 1mm to match the pivot blocks.
Last edited by mangoman; 11-07-2007 at 10:58 PM.
11-08-2007, 01:04 AM
I don't get this.
Why should using 18T pulley, if the Novak's 3.5 BL must using 10.5 FDR?
What are advantages for this, even TRF416 is too?
What are the main difference about these 2 situations?
- Same FDR, same differential pulley, different center pulley.
- Same FDR, different differential pulley, same center pulley.
Why should using 18T pulley, if the Novak's 3.5 BL must using 10.5 FDR?
What are advantages for this, even TRF416 is too?
What are the main difference about these 2 situations?
- Same FDR, same differential pulley, different center pulley.
- Same FDR, different differential pulley, same center pulley.
11-08-2007, 02:54 AM
It means you dont have to get a stupidly big pinion to run a stupidly big rollout.
11-08-2007, 05:24 AM
, i am stock racer and didn't drive Cyclone before. I saw there's a option kit for Cyclone for using BL for bigger spurgear.Why still using stupidly big pinion gears if you need big FDR, in case of overheat ESC you must put lower teeth than brushed, using 18T just will put FDR difficulty bigger?
Then i just want to know also if using big diff. pulley like Cyclone will benefict in the corners?
Last edited by mac853; 11-08-2007 at 05:47 AM.
11-08-2007, 05:52 AM
I run my 13.5 BL Novak around 4.5-5.0 FDR - and it is crazy the gears I hjave to run to get there. The 18T pulleys will bring those gears into a more reasonable range.
11-08-2007, 06:10 AM
Its not unusual for the steering turnbuckles to glance the FR block. On hara's original notes he was sanding them back.
Also note that they will hit if the wheels arent on the ground (which would'nt be the normal thing for wheels to do while the car is in motion!).
With arms rubbing the bulkheads im not exactly sure how that is possible, you will need to be more specific. About the point at which they are rubbing. But note if you are still running the plastic FR RF blocks then they are already raised, and if you are running the aluminium ones you will need to raise them 1mm to match the pivot blocks.
Also note that they will hit if the wheels arent on the ground (which would'nt be the normal thing for wheels to do while the car is in motion!).
With arms rubbing the bulkheads im not exactly sure how that is possible, you will need to be more specific. About the point at which they are rubbing. But note if you are still running the plastic FR RF blocks then they are already raised, and if you are running the aluminium ones you will need to raise them 1mm to match the pivot blocks.
Now as far as the arms rubbing the bulkheads... lets see if I can explain. If you look at the front bulkhead it sorta forms a "Y" shape from the side. The bottom parts attachs to the chassis and the top of the "Y" holds the diff. The inside of the arms (where attached to the hinge pins) sits on each side of the portion of the "Y" that attaches to the chassis. However when you raise the blocks my arms hit the top part of the "Y". It doesn't do this on the back because the 3 degrees on the back spreads the arms out enough that they don't hit the bulkhead. Its the 0 degrees on the front that seems to be causing this problem. As far as blocks I'm using a 3Racing alum FR and the plastic 0 degree on the front.
11-08-2007, 06:13 AM
Sorry for my confusion, in my case use also FDR near your, but i don't think it's useful. Maybe Cyclone diff pulley is so much bigger then you want use 18T. My TRF415's just 36T/16T pulley instead of older Cyclones 39T/16T, isn't it?
11-08-2007, 07:00 AM
It helps if the grammar in your messages is understandable mac853 
11-08-2007, 07:16 AM
Pardon, aussie guy, i am tired after duty then i lost creativity.
I am just asking will not overheat ESC if you have FDR lower, 18t pulley will only decrease int. ratio, then put 16T will not be easier to gain more torque for smoothness BL to have more acceleration?
Honestly, i am not your world, i am honoured stock racer, i don't understand nothing about Mod races.
I am just asking will not overheat ESC if you have FDR lower, 18t pulley will only decrease int. ratio, then put 16T will not be easier to gain more torque for smoothness BL to have more acceleration?
Honestly, i am not your world, i am honoured stock racer
, i don't understand nothing about Mod races.
11-08-2007, 07:37 AM
Anybody know were I can get the 18t pulleys and the longer belts? I have looked all over the place I have only found one place that has them and their out of stock.
11-08-2007, 07:40 AM
11-08-2007, 10:55 AM