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4318LikesU.S. Vintage Trans-Am Racing Part 2
01-06-2022, 10:06 AM
01-06-2022, 02:09 PM
01-06-2022, 06:22 PM
01-06-2022, 07:46 PM
Tech Regular
One would think that a fixed timing spec 25.5 would need to be geared in the 2:1 range, otherwise it's slow AF.
01-07-2022, 02:21 PM
Tech Regular
I don't really see a reason to go to a "one brand only" rule for this class. Most of the recent versions seem to have similar performance. In fact, when I asked one motor company if their latest version (backordered) is much different from the previous one, the answer was:
I suppose if you wanted to eliminate the $150 "race tuned, 5% blessed-by-the-Pope" motors, you could use a motor claim rule like some full-scale series use....
Basically Roar has such tight guidelines on the 25.5, there wasn't much we could improve upon without breaking the rules.
01-07-2022, 03:44 PM
VTA
I don't really see a reason to go to a "one brand only" rule for this class. Most of the recent versions seem to have similar performance. In fact, when I asked one motor company if their latest version (backordered) is much different from the previous one, the answer was:
I suppose if you wanted to eliminate the $150 "race tuned, 5% blessed-by-the-Pope" motors, you could use a motor claim rule like some full-scale series use....
I suppose if you wanted to eliminate the $150 "race tuned, 5% blessed-by-the-Pope" motors, you could use a motor claim rule like some full-scale series use....
01-08-2022, 08:13 AM
I don't really see a reason to go to a "one brand only" rule for this class. Most of the recent versions seem to have similar performance. In fact, when I asked one motor company if their latest version (backordered) is much different from the previous one, the answer was:
I suppose if you wanted to eliminate the $150 "race tuned, 5% blessed-by-the-Pope" motors, you could use a motor claim rule like some full-scale series use....
I suppose if you wanted to eliminate the $150 "race tuned, 5% blessed-by-the-Pope" motors, you could use a motor claim rule like some full-scale series use....
01-08-2022, 12:57 PM
My guess, they will source a spec VTA motor from same vendor that’s making the USGT Spec motor.
01-08-2022, 04:15 PM
I could see this be a possibility at some of the larger events such as Snowbirds or Indoor Champs.... only way it would work for me is a handout motor that you turn in at the end of the race day and then pick it up a random motor the next race day......if its done like the usgt motors, you'll have guys buying 5 motors to find the one thats "better" on the motolyser .......if thats happens, just leave the motors open instead imho ,......... as for club racing from whati've seen most everyone want to run whatever they want
01-08-2022, 05:19 PM
Most of the suggested changes to VTA I see are coming from guys who get schooled and dusted in the current classes they run at their tracks. The thought is .."lets go over to VTA and make some changes here too like weight change, one Spec motor, certain bodies only, etc" That way I'll make podium"
You're going to get schooled and dusted in VTA too. Leave the class alone. It's already a fun class to run without changing the standards.
You're going to get schooled and dusted in VTA too. Leave the class alone. It's already a fun class to run without changing the standards.
01-08-2022, 06:10 PM
Most of the suggested changes to VTA I see are coming from guys who get schooled and dusted in the current classes they run at their tracks. The thought is .."lets go over to VTA and make some changes here too like weight change, one Spec motor, certain bodies only, etc" That way I'll make podium"
You're going to get schooled and dusted in VTA too. Leave the class alone. It's already a fun class to run without changing the standards.
You're going to get schooled and dusted in VTA too. Leave the class alone. It's already a fun class to run without changing the standards.
01-08-2022, 07:05 PM
At my local track, we have R1’s(some tuned, some stock), Motiv’s (mc3’s and 4’s), team screams, trinity (certified and not) and even hobbywings that all regularly take the make the podium. If I remember correctly, 2nd spot at the birds last year was a HW. Point being, the current crop of motors are pretty even across the board.
Additionally, some of those motors being run at my local track have a year or more of races on them. So what if they dropped maximum amount allowed for a motor. They bought 1 for a years worth of racing. That’s a pretty good bargain compared to what you needed to run in stock back in the brushed days. Cans, armatures, comm lathes, brushes, springs, break in voodoo boxes. Todays motors would be Ronnie Popeil approved. Just set it, and forget it.
Additionally, some of those motors being run at my local track have a year or more of races on them. So what if they dropped maximum amount allowed for a motor. They bought 1 for a years worth of racing. That’s a pretty good bargain compared to what you needed to run in stock back in the brushed days. Cans, armatures, comm lathes, brushes, springs, break in voodoo boxes. Todays motors would be Ronnie Popeil approved. Just set it, and forget it.
01-08-2022, 07:11 PM
At my local track, we have R1’s(some tuned, some stock), Motiv’s (mc3’s and 4’s), team screams, trinity (certified and not) and even hobbywings that all regularly take the make the podium. If I remember correctly, 2nd spot at the birds last year was a HW. Point being, the current crop of motors are pretty even across the board.
Additionally, some of those motors being run at my local track have a year or more of races on them. So what if they dropped maximum amount allowed for a motor. They bought 1 for a years worth of racing. That’s a pretty good bargain compared to what you needed to run in stock back in the brushed days. Cans, armatures, comm lathes, brushes, springs, break in voodoo boxes. Todays motors would be Ronnie Popeil approved. Just set it, and forget it.
Additionally, some of those motors being run at my local track have a year or more of races on them. So what if they dropped maximum amount allowed for a motor. They bought 1 for a years worth of racing. That’s a pretty good bargain compared to what you needed to run in stock back in the brushed days. Cans, armatures, comm lathes, brushes, springs, break in voodoo boxes. Todays motors would be Ronnie Popeil approved. Just set it, and forget it.
01-09-2022, 05:54 AM
At my local track, we have R1’s(some tuned, some stock), Motiv’s (mc3’s and 4’s), team screams, trinity (certified and not) and even hobbywings that all regularly take the make the podium. If I remember correctly, 2nd spot at the birds last year was a HW. Point being, the current crop of motors are pretty even across the board.
Additionally, some of those motors being run at my local track have a year or more of races on them. So what if they dropped maximum amount allowed for a motor. They bought 1 for a years worth of racing. That’s a pretty good bargain compared to what you needed to run in stock back in the brushed days. Cans, armatures, comm lathes, brushes, springs, break in voodoo boxes. Todays motors would be Ronnie Popeil approved. Just set it, and forget it.
Additionally, some of those motors being run at my local track have a year or more of races on them. So what if they dropped maximum amount allowed for a motor. They bought 1 for a years worth of racing. That’s a pretty good bargain compared to what you needed to run in stock back in the brushed days. Cans, armatures, comm lathes, brushes, springs, break in voodoo boxes. Todays motors would be Ronnie Popeil approved. Just set it, and forget it.
, but you are correct there are alot of motor variations and everyone is fast with them, just like other classes, if it dont handle, it dont matter anyway
01-09-2022, 08:45 AM
my apologies. Couple friends of mine that attended made mention of it. I may have heard incorrectly. But I do know there were HW’s running well and in 25.5 Amain.